15:00:17 <bswartz> #startmeeting manila
15:00:17 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Mar 19 15:00:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:21 <cknight> Hi
15:00:22 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'manila'
15:00:30 <bswartz> hello all
15:00:31 <kaisers> Hiho
15:00:33 <vponomaryov> hello
15:00:42 <gary-smith__> hi
15:01:01 <ganso_> hi
15:01:17 <bswartz> #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings
15:01:23 <rraja> hi
15:01:46 <bswartz> #topic K-3 / feature freeze
15:02:16 <bswartz> The K-3 milestone was tagged this morning!
15:02:28 <bswartz> #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/manila/tag/?id=2015.1.0b3
15:02:36 <markstur> ship it!
15:02:39 <kaisers> yay
15:02:48 <bswartz> We got all the targeted BPs completed, and a few bugs too
15:02:59 <bswartz> some bugs got kicked out to RC1
15:03:02 <marcusvrn> Hi
15:03:09 <csaba> hi
15:03:14 <rushil_> \o
15:03:20 <bswartz> at this point nobody can merge new features without a feature freeze exception
15:03:42 <bswartz> the procedure for FFEs is to request them on the mail list
15:03:57 <bswartz> but I don't anticipate the need to grant any
15:04:30 <bswartz> so this means that from now until liberty opens up, we're in bugfix mode
15:04:42 <bswartz> also, we should be TESTING!
15:05:06 <bswartz> I want to drive to get all the known bugs fixed ASAP, and then cut a release candidate
15:05:22 <bswartz> everyone is expected to download and test the hell out of the release candidate
15:05:27 <bswartz> that will probably happen in about 2 weeks
15:05:38 <bswartz> maybe 3 if we can't get the bugs down close to zero
15:05:58 <lpabon> o/ - here
15:06:28 <bswartz> it would be nice if our automated test coverage was 100%, but it's not, which is why testing is very important, especially have we have an RC
15:06:44 <bswartz> especially *after
15:07:06 <bswartz> any questions about feature freeze?
15:07:30 <markstur> are you interested in adding more _unit_ test coverage now? I was assuming that should wait for L to merge.
15:07:35 <bswartz> I'm really happy with how milestone 3 went by the way
15:07:59 <bswartz> everyone got their stuff in fairly early and we got the reivews we needed and the gate didn't cause too many problems
15:08:12 <bswartz> markstur: adding tests is always welcome
15:08:50 <bswartz> with the possible exception of right around the release when we're scared to break anything
15:09:42 <bswartz> so you might see features going into the client, or to the horizon fork after the feature freeze, but that should slow down soon
15:10:01 <bswartz> they're not technically frozen but we want to keep them stable
15:10:24 <bswartz> #topic Core team nominations
15:10:42 <bswartz> so we have a very small core team -- just 3 people currently
15:10:51 <bswartz> it's no secret that I've been wanting to grow it
15:11:18 <bswartz> for example the last 2 days xyang is out of office, and when vponomaryov pushes a change, he can't +2 is own change
15:11:28 <bswartz> which puts us in a bind
15:11:57 <bswartz> I have nominated u_glide to join the core team already (see the ML post)
15:12:23 <bswartz> and I'm looking for more people who are dedicated to the project to nominate too
15:12:37 <lpabon> cool
15:12:57 <bswartz> the primary requirement is a history of quality code reviews, and participation in the community (IRC channel, ML, and meetups)
15:13:10 <bswartz> contributions to manila core also help a lot, but aren't required
15:13:45 <bswartz> so I'll talk to some of you and see if you're interested
15:13:53 <vponomaryov> bswartz: contributions make influence to reviews, so it is preffered
15:14:27 <bswartz> vponomaryov: I think that's what I said
15:14:48 <lpabon> vponomaryov: yeah, its easier to review once you understand and contribute code
15:15:19 <lpabon> just my $0.02
15:15:21 <bswartz> the point is that the "core team" is primarily defined by our reviewing responsibility
15:15:29 <lpabon> yep
15:15:59 <bswartz> someone can be a big contributor but not spend time on reviews and not be a core reviewer
15:16:14 <bswartz> and that's fine
15:16:35 <bswartz> I'm hoping to get the core team to around 6 people by start of liberty
15:16:48 <bswartz> I think it will help with review load
15:16:54 <bswartz> but only if we find good candidates
15:17:27 <bswartz> #topic open discussion
15:17:39 <bswartz> that's all I have for today
15:17:51 <bswartz> we can breathe a sigh of relief that we reached the milestone
15:18:05 <bswartz> but only a short one because it's time to get on to testing bugfixing
15:18:05 <markstur> sigh
15:18:08 <bswartz> lol
15:18:18 <lpabon> I have a topic
15:18:27 <bswartz> also K-4 is a good time to work on documentation
15:18:50 <bswartz> lpabon: go ahead
15:18:53 <lpabon> ^ yeah that.. specially for new developers (like me) is really needed
15:18:57 <kaisers> si..
15:19:00 <kaisers> (short one)
15:19:28 <lpabon> So, I'm starting with the development environment, and hopefully will be adding documentation next week
15:19:49 <bswartz> oh your topic was documentation
15:19:50 <lpabon> I created https://github.com/lpabon/devstack-manila - which creates a vagrant development image
15:19:58 <bswartz> yes, docs are important
15:20:10 <bswartz> so is bug finding/fixing
15:20:11 <lpabon> yeah, my topic is that we need more development documentation, specially how to start up easily
15:20:31 <lpabon> so we can review and verify fixes
15:20:40 <bswartz> I'm sure everyone wants to start prototyping features for liberty, but let's make sure kilo is successful first
15:20:58 <lpabon> Anyways that's all i had
15:21:08 <bswartz> kaisers: did you have something?
15:21:57 <markstur> kaisers had a short sigh
15:22:02 <bswartz> lol
15:22:05 <bswartz> okay
15:22:15 <bswartz> just a note about me
15:22:23 <bswartz> I will be at disney world next week
15:22:32 <kaisers> yep :)
15:22:37 <lpabon> sweet (i was just there)
15:22:38 <bswartz> I should be able to hold this meeting next week from the orlando airport
15:22:48 <bswartz> but I'll be unavailable most of the week
15:22:56 <bswartz> maybe I can do reviews in the evening for bugfixes
15:23:07 <markstur> k3 is tagged.   I'm going to Disney World!   (Ben is doing the MVP thing)
15:23:18 <bswartz> ^ yes
15:23:30 <lpabon> lol
15:23:43 <bswartz> you can catch me online up through Sunday though
15:23:55 <kaisers> reviews from the roller coaster, yay all +/-2
15:24:05 <bswartz> anyways that's all from me
15:24:31 <bswartz> thanks everyone, and get on to testing/fixing!
15:24:42 <kaisers> thanks, have fun & bye
15:24:45 <bswartz> #endmeeting