15:00:23 <bswartz> #startmeeting manila
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15:00:27 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'manila'
15:00:30 <cknight> Hi
15:00:33 <xyang1> Hi
15:00:37 <bswartz> hello all
15:00:39 <u_glide1> Hello
15:00:40 <Zhongjun> hi
15:00:45 <markstur> hello
15:00:47 <vponomaryov> Hello
15:00:54 <bswartz> #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings
15:01:08 <toabctl> hi
15:01:14 <bswartz> lpabon: ping
15:01:29 <bswartz> only 1 agenda item today
15:01:40 <bswartz> I need to wrap up the schedule for the design summit
15:01:46 <bswartz> #topic Liberty design summit finalization
15:01:53 <bswartz> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-liberty-proposed-sessions
15:01:55 <lpabon> hi
15:02:17 <bswartz> so it was easy to choose the 3 fishbowl sessions
15:02:32 <ganso> hi
15:02:41 <bswartz> however we have lots of other topics that may or may not work as working sessions
15:03:09 <bswartz> all of the topics are important, but I only want to schedule topics if presenters will be ready
15:03:18 <bswartz> lpabon: your name was next to 2 things
15:03:30 <lpabon> bswartz: ok
15:03:31 <bswartz> Service Image, and snapshot/share relationships
15:03:39 <bswartz> did you plan on presenting both of those topics?
15:04:07 <lpabon> bswartz: i plan on leading the discussions on both... but I do not have anything to present, it is more of a community discussion
15:04:47 <bswartz> lpabon: do you at least have proposals you would like to see implemented?
15:04:51 <lpabon> i would like to see what the group wants to do with each topic and organize any tasks that come out of it
15:05:22 <lpabon> bswartz: The only one is the service image.. I'm not sure how much implementation it requires, but we can discuss it
15:05:35 <lpabon> bswartz: does that make sense?
15:05:42 <bswartz> I'm thinking that some of the working sessions can be combined, allowing us to move some topics into the planned agenda
15:05:49 <lpabon> or maybe I'm not really answering your question
15:05:49 <bswartz> lpabon: yes
15:06:03 <bswartz> I'll get with you after this meeting about your available timeslots
15:06:10 <lpabon> np
15:06:13 <bswartz> need to make sure I'm not creating any conflicts
15:06:33 <bswartz> I wanted to propose combining Versioned Objects and API versioning, since they're similar topics
15:06:49 <bswartz> weiting: any objections to that?
15:07:09 <bswartz> oh weiting might not be here...
15:07:15 <weiting> bswartz, I am still working on this
15:07:47 <bswartz> xyang1: your name is next to thin provisioning
15:07:49 <weiting> bswartz, I think it is ok to combine it.
15:08:06 <xyang1> bswartz: I can talk about it
15:08:12 <bswartz> xyang1: I also wondered if you had an interest in leading a discussion on consistency groups
15:08:27 <bswartz> xyang1: I know you'll have some conflicts with the cinder agenda
15:08:31 <xyang1> bswartz: Sure, I am interested
15:08:52 <bswartz> so I need to be careful about scheduling those
15:08:55 <xyang1> bswartz: Yes, we need to look at the schedule
15:09:09 <weiting> bswartz: to combine it, does it mean to talk it in the same working session?
15:09:25 <bswartz> Zhongjun: you wanted to propose QoS, but you won't be in vancouver, correct?
15:09:42 <Zhongjun> Yes
15:10:08 <bswartz> weiting: we might schedule both topics for the same session, in case a single topic doesn't require the full 40 minutes
15:10:37 <bswartz> Zhongjun: is there anyone who will be there who could present a QoS proposal?
15:11:13 <bswartz> if not, we might have to leave it off the agenda and just do the design reviews online after vancouver
15:11:47 <Zhongjun> Sorry, I am not find somebody.
15:12:09 <bswartz> okay
15:12:45 <bswartz> so if you look at the etherpad now, I'm proposing the following combined working sessions (with the second topic being a backup topic)
15:13:06 <bswartz> Thin Provisioning (xyang) / Consistency Groups (xyang)
15:13:06 <bswartz> Versioned Objects (weiting) / API versioning (cknight)
15:13:06 <bswartz> Fault Indication (ameade)
15:13:06 <bswartz> Snapshot/Share relationship (lpabon) / Service Image (lpabon)
15:13:57 <bswartz> fitting sessions into slots is still TBD
15:14:32 <ganso> bswartz: who is going to present Data Replication? your name is next to it
15:14:34 <bswartz> toabctl: will you be in vancouver?
15:14:52 <toabctl> bswartz: yes
15:14:56 <bswartz> ganso: I'll make a proposal but cknight will lead the session in my absense
15:15:08 <ganso> bswartz: ok
15:15:09 <bswartz> toabctl: are you interested in leading the service image discussion?
15:15:26 <bswartz> toabctl: you could go-lead it with lpabon if you're both interested
15:15:58 <lpabon> i welcome it :-)
15:15:59 <bswartz> I've personally done a bunch of working trying to build a manila service image with buildroot -- I wasn't able to complete it though
15:16:03 <toabctl> bswartz: I can co-lead but I'm currently not working on it due to time limitations..
15:16:09 <bswartz> csaba has done the same
15:16:31 <bswartz> yes.... time limitations are a problem
15:16:32 <toabctl> bswartz: I started using buildroot as well but give up after some short time.
15:16:48 <lpabon> i'm going to try to create a summary on where we stand by the meeting time
15:16:52 <bswartz> I got pretty far with buildroot but ran into trouble with NFS4 compatibility
15:16:58 <lpabon> on service image
15:17:18 <bswartz> buildroot out of the box is NFS3 only
15:17:31 <bswartz> at least it was 6 months ago
15:17:44 <bswartz> okay
15:17:48 <toabctl> bswartz: do you have your config in some repository?
15:18:06 <bswartz> toabctl: not a public place
15:18:18 <toabctl> ok
15:18:41 <bswartz> toabctl: I could get approval to contribute it if we decide to go down that path though
15:19:15 <bswartz> so I'm going to go with the proposed sessions as they are in the etherpad
15:19:26 <bswartz> I'll find a way to schedule them that minimizes conflicts
15:19:56 <bswartz> if you're a presenter I'll ping you about your availability after the meeting
15:20:10 <bswartz> any questions about design summit agenda?
15:20:18 <lpabon> i'm good
15:20:29 <bswartz> #topic open discussion
15:20:34 <bswartz> any other topics for today?
15:20:59 <bswartz> okay, looks like like we're done
15:21:07 <bswartz> thanks everyone
15:21:11 <weiting> bswartz, thanks.
15:21:16 <lpabon> bye all
15:21:18 <cknight> Bye
15:21:21 <bswartz> #endmeeting