15:00:23 <bswartz> #startmeeting manila 15:00:24 <openstack> Meeting started Thu May 7 15:00:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:25 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:27 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'manila' 15:00:30 <cknight> Hi 15:00:33 <xyang1> Hi 15:00:37 <bswartz> hello all 15:00:39 <u_glide1> Hello 15:00:40 <Zhongjun> hi 15:00:45 <markstur> hello 15:00:47 <vponomaryov> Hello 15:00:54 <bswartz> #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings 15:01:08 <toabctl> hi 15:01:14 <bswartz> lpabon: ping 15:01:29 <bswartz> only 1 agenda item today 15:01:40 <bswartz> I need to wrap up the schedule for the design summit 15:01:46 <bswartz> #topic Liberty design summit finalization 15:01:53 <bswartz> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-liberty-proposed-sessions 15:01:55 <lpabon> hi 15:02:17 <bswartz> so it was easy to choose the 3 fishbowl sessions 15:02:32 <ganso> hi 15:02:41 <bswartz> however we have lots of other topics that may or may not work as working sessions 15:03:09 <bswartz> all of the topics are important, but I only want to schedule topics if presenters will be ready 15:03:18 <bswartz> lpabon: your name was next to 2 things 15:03:30 <lpabon> bswartz: ok 15:03:31 <bswartz> Service Image, and snapshot/share relationships 15:03:39 <bswartz> did you plan on presenting both of those topics? 15:04:07 <lpabon> bswartz: i plan on leading the discussions on both... but I do not have anything to present, it is more of a community discussion 15:04:47 <bswartz> lpabon: do you at least have proposals you would like to see implemented? 15:04:51 <lpabon> i would like to see what the group wants to do with each topic and organize any tasks that come out of it 15:05:22 <lpabon> bswartz: The only one is the service image.. I'm not sure how much implementation it requires, but we can discuss it 15:05:35 <lpabon> bswartz: does that make sense? 15:05:42 <bswartz> I'm thinking that some of the working sessions can be combined, allowing us to move some topics into the planned agenda 15:05:49 <lpabon> or maybe I'm not really answering your question 15:05:49 <bswartz> lpabon: yes 15:06:03 <bswartz> I'll get with you after this meeting about your available timeslots 15:06:10 <lpabon> np 15:06:13 <bswartz> need to make sure I'm not creating any conflicts 15:06:33 <bswartz> I wanted to propose combining Versioned Objects and API versioning, since they're similar topics 15:06:49 <bswartz> weiting: any objections to that? 15:07:09 <bswartz> oh weiting might not be here... 15:07:15 <weiting> bswartz, I am still working on this 15:07:47 <bswartz> xyang1: your name is next to thin provisioning 15:07:49 <weiting> bswartz, I think it is ok to combine it. 15:08:06 <xyang1> bswartz: I can talk about it 15:08:12 <bswartz> xyang1: I also wondered if you had an interest in leading a discussion on consistency groups 15:08:27 <bswartz> xyang1: I know you'll have some conflicts with the cinder agenda 15:08:31 <xyang1> bswartz: Sure, I am interested 15:08:52 <bswartz> so I need to be careful about scheduling those 15:08:55 <xyang1> bswartz: Yes, we need to look at the schedule 15:09:09 <weiting> bswartz: to combine it, does it mean to talk it in the same working session? 15:09:25 <bswartz> Zhongjun: you wanted to propose QoS, but you won't be in vancouver, correct? 15:09:42 <Zhongjun> Yes 15:10:08 <bswartz> weiting: we might schedule both topics for the same session, in case a single topic doesn't require the full 40 minutes 15:10:37 <bswartz> Zhongjun: is there anyone who will be there who could present a QoS proposal? 15:11:13 <bswartz> if not, we might have to leave it off the agenda and just do the design reviews online after vancouver 15:11:47 <Zhongjun> Sorry, I am not find somebody. 15:12:09 <bswartz> okay 15:12:45 <bswartz> so if you look at the etherpad now, I'm proposing the following combined working sessions (with the second topic being a backup topic) 15:13:06 <bswartz> Thin Provisioning (xyang) / Consistency Groups (xyang) 15:13:06 <bswartz> Versioned Objects (weiting) / API versioning (cknight) 15:13:06 <bswartz> Fault Indication (ameade) 15:13:06 <bswartz> Snapshot/Share relationship (lpabon) / Service Image (lpabon) 15:13:57 <bswartz> fitting sessions into slots is still TBD 15:14:32 <ganso> bswartz: who is going to present Data Replication? your name is next to it 15:14:34 <bswartz> toabctl: will you be in vancouver? 15:14:52 <toabctl> bswartz: yes 15:14:56 <bswartz> ganso: I'll make a proposal but cknight will lead the session in my absense 15:15:08 <ganso> bswartz: ok 15:15:09 <bswartz> toabctl: are you interested in leading the service image discussion? 15:15:26 <bswartz> toabctl: you could go-lead it with lpabon if you're both interested 15:15:58 <lpabon> i welcome it :-) 15:15:59 <bswartz> I've personally done a bunch of working trying to build a manila service image with buildroot -- I wasn't able to complete it though 15:16:03 <toabctl> bswartz: I can co-lead but I'm currently not working on it due to time limitations.. 15:16:09 <bswartz> csaba has done the same 15:16:31 <bswartz> yes.... time limitations are a problem 15:16:32 <toabctl> bswartz: I started using buildroot as well but give up after some short time. 15:16:48 <lpabon> i'm going to try to create a summary on where we stand by the meeting time 15:16:52 <bswartz> I got pretty far with buildroot but ran into trouble with NFS4 compatibility 15:16:58 <lpabon> on service image 15:17:18 <bswartz> buildroot out of the box is NFS3 only 15:17:31 <bswartz> at least it was 6 months ago 15:17:44 <bswartz> okay 15:17:48 <toabctl> bswartz: do you have your config in some repository? 15:18:06 <bswartz> toabctl: not a public place 15:18:18 <toabctl> ok 15:18:41 <bswartz> toabctl: I could get approval to contribute it if we decide to go down that path though 15:19:15 <bswartz> so I'm going to go with the proposed sessions as they are in the etherpad 15:19:26 <bswartz> I'll find a way to schedule them that minimizes conflicts 15:19:56 <bswartz> if you're a presenter I'll ping you about your availability after the meeting 15:20:10 <bswartz> any questions about design summit agenda? 15:20:18 <lpabon> i'm good 15:20:29 <bswartz> #topic open discussion 15:20:34 <bswartz> any other topics for today? 15:20:59 <bswartz> okay, looks like like we're done 15:21:07 <bswartz> thanks everyone 15:21:11 <weiting> bswartz, thanks. 15:21:16 <lpabon> bye all 15:21:18 <cknight> Bye 15:21:21 <bswartz> #endmeeting