15:00:12 <bswartz> #startmeeting manila
15:00:17 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Feb  8 15:00:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:21 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'manila'
15:00:29 <bswartz> hello all
15:00:31 <amito> o/
15:00:34 <zhongjun> hi
15:00:34 <ganso> hello
15:00:39 <tbarron> hi
15:01:08 <bswartz> courtesy ping: gouthamr toabctl xyang markstur vponomaryov cknight
15:01:28 <markstur> hi
15:01:44 <bswartz> I don't really expect gouthamr -- he just got married
15:01:53 <xyang> hi
15:02:14 <bswartz> #topic announcements
15:02:36 <bswartz> All hail our new PTL, tbarron!
15:02:46 <markstur> gouthamr congrats!
15:02:51 * tbarron practices hiding
15:03:05 <bswartz> thank you for stepping up
15:03:07 <bswartz> O dp
15:03:11 <tpsilva> hey
15:03:23 <xyang> Congrats!
15:03:24 <markstur> tbarron congrats!
15:03:28 <zhongjun> tbarron:  congrats!
15:03:31 <bswartz> I don't know when the official term starts/ends, but I'll make the transition as smooth as possible
15:03:40 <amito> tbarron: congrats
15:03:42 <dustins> \o
15:03:56 <bswartz> tbarron: you're welcome to lean on me until you learn the ropes
15:03:57 <dustins> tbarron: congratulations :D
15:03:58 <tbarron> ty all, will need help from all of you!
15:04:03 <ganso> tbarron: congrats!
15:04:17 <tbarron> bswartz: already started leaning, thanks.
15:04:34 <bswartz> Does anyone know when the PTL elections take effect? Is it officially starting next week (when the voting ends)?
15:05:25 <zhongjun> "The poll has been announced to end Feb 14, 2018 23:45 UTC."
15:05:43 <tbarron> wouldn't it be the beginning of Rocky?
15:06:00 <ganso> wouldn't it be the PTG?
15:06:07 <bswartz> You see, I don't know
15:06:15 <vkmc> o/
15:06:17 <tbarron> you never had to know
15:06:19 <zhongjun> This is one of the PTL vote for other project
15:06:26 <bswartz> In any case, I'll do whatever make tbarron the most comfortable
15:06:46 <bswartz> I'm happy to organize and run the PTG, etc
15:06:51 <tbarron> zhongjun: I think the end of the vote is earlier than the beginning of the term of service
15:07:00 <tbarron> bswartz: let's do it together
15:07:20 <bswartz> Okay
15:07:43 <bswartz> There's another announcement for today
15:07:45 <zhongjun> tbarron: maybe, I am not familiar with that
15:07:49 <bswartz> This is the RC1 target date
15:08:25 <bswartz> Unless there are any questions about the PTL-ship transition, we'll move to that topic next
15:08:41 <jungleboyj> @!
15:08:41 <_pewp_> jungleboyj (^o^)/
15:09:00 <jungleboyj> tbarron:  Congratulations!
15:09:07 * bswartz marks jungleboyj tardy
15:09:14 <tbarron> jungleboyj: thx
15:09:16 <jungleboyj> Better late than never.
15:09:19 <bswartz> true
15:09:29 <jungleboyj> bswartz:  tbarron  Wouldn't do that to me.  ;-)
15:09:35 <bswartz> #topic RC1
15:09:49 <bswartz> #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/queens-rc1
15:10:04 <bswartz> The list of open bugs is now down to zero
15:10:23 <markstur> yay
15:10:25 <bswartz> There was some excitement yesterday when I merged what I thought was a low-risk bugfix, that turned out to break the generic driver
15:10:27 <ganso> \o/
15:10:54 <bswartz> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531638/
15:11:21 <bswartz> and revert: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541927/
15:11:51 <bswartz> So https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1741425 still needs fixing, but it's been targeted out to Rocky
15:11:52 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1741425 in Manila "Image with name 'manila-service-image' was not found or is not in 'active' state." [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to junboli (junboli)
15:12:12 <tbarron> the original idea (use glanceclient instead of novaclient when working with images) is good, just needs more time on the fix
15:12:43 <bswartz> I'm ready to tag the RC, but I decided to wait until after the meeting in case someone knows about another bug or bugfix that should go in
15:12:52 <tbarron> we can backport it
15:13:11 <bswartz> tbarron: yes but only after the final release
15:13:40 <bswartz> Anything that misses RC1 is automatically delayed for about 3 weeks, for stability's sake
15:13:47 <tbarron> ack
15:14:05 <bswartz> There's also a postgres breakage in progress, which appears to be not our fault
15:14:10 <toabctl> hi
15:14:15 <tbarron> https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1747869
15:14:16 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1747869 in Glance "./stack.sh doesn't work with postgres" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Brian Rosmaita (brian-rosmaita)
15:14:39 <bswartz> It appears that the glance team is aware of the issue and plans an RC2 to address it
15:15:43 <bswartz> So I eagerly await that fix to unbreak all of our postgres jobs
15:16:01 <bswartz> It seems we're clear to push a tag then
15:16:27 <bswartz> #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html
15:17:02 <bswartz> So there are 3 more weeks until the final release, which will happen _during_ the PTG once again
15:17:31 <bswartz> Between now and then, our focus should be on cleaning up documentation, looking for any remaining bugs, and of course planning for Rocky
15:17:58 <bswartz> Now is a great time to start writing specs and making prototypes for new features
15:18:13 <bswartz> Especially for anything that we might want to discuss at PTG
15:19:05 <bswartz> Speaking of PTG...
15:19:23 <bswartz> #topic PTG
15:19:28 <bswartz> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-rocky-ptg
15:20:00 <bswartz> We've got some topic proposals already, but we could use some more\
15:20:04 <tbarron> zhongjun will be there!
15:20:19 <tbarron> and amito and ganso
15:20:25 <zhongjun> tbarron: yes, looking forward to see you
15:20:28 <amito> :)
15:20:31 <ganso> yes =D
15:21:01 <bswartz> I think we should plan to have a team get-together, like a dinner
15:21:13 <zhongjun> +10000
15:21:22 <amito> indeed
15:21:25 <tbarron> jungleboyj: what night is cinder's ?
15:21:34 <amito> thursday
15:21:39 <jungleboyj> We were planning to do Thursday.
15:21:51 <jungleboyj> There was no dissent in our meeting at the suggestion.
15:22:04 <bswartz> We had one in Atlanta, and since we sat out the Queens PTG we had to settle for a local get-together here in Raleigh
15:22:37 <jungleboyj> Would be nice to do a different night as many of us are cross project.
15:22:54 <amito> maybe Tuesday, after the meeting?
15:22:57 <bswartz> We should avoid conflict with the Cinder dinner of course, but I don't know what the schedule is for official community evening events
15:23:05 <amito> I guess there are some activities organized by the foundation?
15:23:18 <amito> ... or by the sponsors
15:23:26 <bswartz> Tuesday would make sense, as long as there's nothing else conflicting
15:23:51 <bswartz> We don't need to decide today, we still have 2.5 weeks
15:24:00 <bswartz> But the sooner we can reserve a night the better
15:24:20 <bswartz> I can look into when the official events will happen
15:24:43 <bswartz> I think it's best to avoid Friday in case anyone plans to leave immediately after the meeting
15:25:01 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Do you know if there are official Foundation sponsored events at the PTG?
15:25:07 <bswartz> So the realistic options are Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday
15:25:41 <jungleboyj> bswartz:  Usually they are on Tuesday night but then there is a break for teams to go get dinner and then more stuff later in the night if anything else is going on.
15:26:11 <bswartz> Yeah my recollection is that the foundation events are usually snacks and/or drinks, not meals
15:26:32 <jungleboyj> bswartz:  And then if they do a karaoke night or something it is later in the evening.
15:26:56 <bswartz> Yeah
15:26:58 <jungleboyj> Will also depend on how much extra money they have with the venue.  :-)
15:27:40 <bswartz> Okay that's all I had for today
15:27:48 * tbarron wants to see jungleboyj and bswartz do a karaoke duet
15:27:49 <bswartz> dustins: did you want to spend time on bugs?
15:27:58 <ildikov> jungleboyj: there are plans, but I need to ask what and when
15:28:01 <dustins> bswartz: We can if y'all want!
15:28:20 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Ok, just wondering as Manila and Cinder try to plan team Dinners.
15:28:26 <bswartz> dustins: anything that needs attention for queens, or can it wait until rocky?
15:28:31 <dustins> But if we've got other topics, I don't mind holding off, nothing was screaming out to me as "Holy crap, broken!"
15:28:41 <ildikov> jungleboyj: will ping you when I know more
15:28:49 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Thank you.
15:29:06 <bswartz> dustins: no more topics, but I'm okay to end the meeting early and give everyone 30 minutes back
15:29:08 <dustins> bswartz: I think we're clear to wait until Rocky, unless someone else thinks otherwise
15:29:16 <bswartz> okay cool
15:29:31 <zhongjun> Could we start to discuss the new feature or waiting for next PTG
15:29:41 <bswartz> In that case I think we'll wrap up early, and I'll push the tag
15:29:48 <bswartz> zhongjun: let's save those
15:30:01 <bswartz> I'd rather use these meetings to make sure Queens wraps up smoothly
15:30:10 <zhongjun> sure
15:30:18 <bswartz> We should keep an eye on that glance/postgres issue and make sure our tests go back to passing cleanly
15:30:25 <bswartz> after they fix it
15:30:28 <zhongjun> Okay
15:30:56 <bswartz> Okay thanks everyone
15:31:06 <bswartz> #endmeeting