15:01:51 #startmeeting manila 15:01:52 Meeting started Thu Mar 7 15:01:51 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:53 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:55 The meeting name has been set to 'manila' 15:01:58 .o/ 15:02:20 hi :) 15:02:27 chair bswartz 15:02:30 in case 15:02:41 o/ 15:02:44 i'm going to try the courtesy ping the old way 15:02:46 o/ 15:02:50 courtesy ping: gouthamr zhongjun xyang toabctl bswartz ganso erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso 15:02:57 I have a conflict at 10:30 unfotunately, so I can only stat half the meeting 15:02:59 bot didn't kill me 15:03:05 You need the hashtag to make the chair command work 15:03:06 hey 15:03:09 hi 15:03:14 hey all 15:03:15 bswartz: oh yeah 15:03:17 s/stat/stay/ 15:03:27 ganso has a conflict 15:03:34 gouthamr is taking PTO 15:03:36 slacker 15:03:43 :) 15:03:43 PTO? what's that? 15:03:50 >_< 15:04:15 ok let's get started 15:04:30 Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Weekly_Manila_team_meeting 15:04:39 #topic Announcements 15:04:56 It is Feature Freeze 15:05:25 if you have any other non-bug fix, non-test-only, non-doc fixes for Stein 15:05:37 you need to request a Feature Freeze Exception 15:05:54 Today is feature freeze in Kubernetes too 15:05:59 Fortunately the big manage share servers stuff merged 15:06:04 I wonder if that's a coincidence or good planning? 15:06:13 bswartz: got your raw block discovery working? 15:06:19 * tbarron digresses 15:06:31 It merged in the dark of night 15:06:40 cool 15:07:17 Thanks to ganso, his team, and reviewers, especially gouthamr for their work on the manage share servers feature 15:07:46 It's also time to release the version of python-manilaclient that we're shipping for Stein. 15:08:06 So I've submitted a review for that and it will presumably merge today or tomorrow 15:08:34 It's also the deadline to submit topics for the Summit Forum. 15:08:40 I plan to do these later today, 15:08:52 You still have a little bit of time to add your ideas to 15:09:00 our brainstorm etherpad 15:09:58 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DEN-train-forum-manila-brainstorming 15:10:08 * tbarron pauses to fix the agenda there 15:11:12 That's all I have for announcements, 15:11:20 anyone else? 15:11:50 #topic Bugs 15:12:06 OK it's time in the release schedule to pivot 15:12:13 from development to 15:12:21 bug detection and fixes 15:12:33 of course that should be ongoing but now it should 15:12:44 be exclusive focus for stein work 15:13:08 (doesn't mean you can't work on stuff for train but we won't merge it till then) 15:13:13 jgrosso: you are up 15:13:17 ok 15:13:44 well question about https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1817316 15:13:45 Launchpad bug 1817316 in Manila "security service password is stored in plaintext" [Undecided,New] 15:14:18 have we found out the best practice as a baseline and go from there, we were thinking this was not a "manila" issue but across the board?? 15:14:28 I know we talked about this last meeting 15:14:54 well I asked on the discuss list and bnemec from oslo and joasorio from security replied 15:15:15 There is a new oslo capability to leverage castellan to 15:15:30 keep service passwords and the like in a vault rather than 15:15:32 plaintext 15:15:52 That doesn't address the security-service password directly b/c 15:16:14 it is entered by a cloud-operator via the api 15:16:20 and stored in the database 15:16:30 So I've added this as a PTG topic 15:16:46 ok great 15:16:48 one possibility is that we can use standard (i think ??) DB 15:16:56 is this a medium? 15:17:05 AES encryption or some such to store the password in the DB 15:17:15 and add configuration for the encryption key 15:17:31 and then use castellan for the encryption key and 15:17:36 for service passwords 15:17:51 so I'll float that idea now and we can talk about it at PTG 15:17:55 When was the last time we added a dependency on an outside service? 15:18:06 We need a checklist of things that need updating when we do that 15:18:10 yeah 15:18:19 For example all the test jobs need to install that service 15:18:26 The developer docs need to tell developers to install it 15:18:27 bswartz: we could make it a soft dependency of course 15:18:39 still need the checklist 15:18:44 Deployers will have to do whatever they do 15:19:14 but operator would set an option to encrypt service passwords and sec service p/w 15:19:15 It's a nontrivial change to make 15:19:16 or not 15:19:25 But I agree it does make sense in this context 15:19:40 bswartz: right, it's non-trivial and that's why I think it's a PTG topic 15:19:50 would need a spec and work plan 15:20:23 jgrosso: so medium is fine but add wish-list and note that we'll discuss it at PTG 15:20:35 got it 15:20:38 https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1818569 15:20:39 Launchpad bug 1818569 in Manila "access rule apply races allow duplicates" [Undecided,New] 15:21:12 we have api races when applying access rules 15:21:25 I think this one is also a PTG topic 15:21:38 b/c the best way to fix it 15:21:43 * tbarron brainstorms 15:22:02 involves some ING DB states and locking around the transition to them 15:22:25 I think I made this point back when gouthamr was doing the last access rule changes 15:22:48 and people said that it might be true but didn't want to hold up all the other improvements he was making 15:23:16 so jgrosso i think this is MEDIUM at least and it's not goign to be a quick fix 15:23:17 Is the problem that the user asks for duplicate rules and we don't prevent it? 15:23:21 hope I'm wrong 15:23:28 ok wil make a note this is PTG topic as well 15:23:28 Or that the user doesn't ask for it and we do it anyways? 15:23:44 bswartz: we try to prevent it but the prevenetion is subject to race problems 15:23:49 and doesn't always work 15:23:56 so the real issue is the races 15:24:02 this is just one manifestation 15:24:22 I see 15:24:35 that's my *opinion* -- others should investigate and form their own 15:24:47 but I'm putting it as a PTG topic 15:25:04 ok 15:25:12 if someone comes up with a clean fix that's simpler than what I'm thinking in the mean time then 15:25:21 I'd *love* to be wrong 15:25:31 :) 15:25:55 https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila-ui/+bug/1584145 15:25:56 Launchpad bug 1584145 in manila-ui "Wrong handling of errors updating share type extra specs" [Medium,In progress] 15:26:18 can some explain to me what we do with abandoned stuff :) 15:26:41 I am on a mission to clean everything up 15:26:43 :) 15:27:10 it gets back to the queue so other contributor can work on it? 15:27:17 yeah 15:27:34 this is an old bug report though and a lot has changed in horizon and manila-ui 15:27:49 ok so we just leave it there? 15:28:05 yeah, somebody needs to verify what is the status for it 15:28:18 do we understand how to reproduce this? 15:28:22 ok https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-manilaclient/+bug/1712835 15:28:23 Launchpad bug 1712835 in python-manilaclient "shell client completion cache not working" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Eric Harney (eharney) 15:28:37 jgrosso: so back to the other one 15:28:47 oh ok 15:28:52 we need to get an owner to try and see if it's still valid 15:29:05 * tbarron thinks he sees vkmc waving her hand 15:29:15 \o) 15:29:17 (o/ 15:29:28 I will add a comment 15:29:30 awesome 15:29:43 jgrosso: assign to vkmc 15:29:50 ok 15:30:01 just grabbed it 15:30:02 vkmc: it's perfectly fine if you can't reproduce to say that and close it 15:30:03 thanks jgrosso 15:30:14 vkmc thank you! 15:30:53 thanks tbarron! 15:31:19 * bswartz sneaks out of the room to his 10:30 meeting 15:31:26 the next bug it looks fixed in Cinderclient 15:31:32 bswartz: see you later, thanks! 15:31:48 jgrosso: and it's in review in manila, right? 15:32:10 yes 15:32:34 ok sorry did not see that 15:32:35 :) 15:32:52 jgrosso: i'd say the importance is LOW if you want to set that 15:32:58 ok 15:33:11 it's a convenience 15:33:25 got it 15:34:35 https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1816939 15:34:36 Launchpad bug 1816939 in Manila "Tempest test test_create_sg_and_share_specifying_az fails sporadically" [Undecided,New] 15:35:09 reported by Goutham 15:35:49 looks like someone needs to investigate where the races are 15:35:53 in which service 15:36:28 is this a dev or could QE help out ? 15:36:46 of course QE can help out 15:37:02 ok I will assign it to me 15:37:04 there are no you're a DEV or you're a QE rules upstream 15:37:13 jgrosso: terrific 15:37:19 great! 15:38:51 sorry for the delay system is slow at home 15:39:05 no prob 15:40:37 https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1811943 15:40:38 Launchpad bug 1811943 in Manila "limit max share size" [Undecided,New] 15:41:17 this is a wishlist item 15:41:30 we can have it as a PTG topic 15:41:41 ok 15:41:46 how bout this https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1811336 15:41:48 Launchpad bug 1811336 in Manila "Manila snapshot create method doesn't support "force" attribute" [Undecided,New] 15:42:36 we need someone to investigate it 15:43:16 does anyone kknow right off what 'force' is supposed to do when creating a snapshot? 15:43:50 jgrosso: maybe bring this one up again next week when we have more people here with 15:43:55 history in manila 15:43:59 got it 15:44:15 bswart or ganso or gouthamr may know 15:44:32 got it 15:45:04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1804239 15:45:06 Launchpad bug 1804239 in Manila "NetApp utilization metrics slow" [Undecided,New] 15:45:40 any netappers want to take this? 15:46:28 jgrosso: see if you can get ganso to take this one and 15:46:38 have his team work it 15:46:40 now that 15:46:44 sounds good 15:46:49 the manage share servers stuff is merged 15:46:58 ok I have one more 15:46:59 https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1804208 15:47:01 Launchpad bug 1804208 in Manila "scheduler falsely reports share service down" [High,New] 15:47:11 its marked as High 15:48:13 well that's probably defensible 15:48:27 for big deployments like the reporter's 15:48:33 he's at SAP 15:48:43 ahh 15:49:28 netapper here o/, we'll decide between us regarding 1804239 who will work on it 15:49:28 so your saying this can be expected in large deployments? 15:49:31 I don't see anyone raising their hands to say they'll work on it immediately so it will just be in our high prio baclog for now 15:49:44 ok 15:49:59 lseki: awesome, would you assign it to yourself and then 15:50:08 re-assign as appropriate? 15:50:12 lseki: thanks 15:50:20 tbarron: sure, I will 15:50:28 lseki: thanks 15:51:34 tbarron: that is all I have for now 15:51:44 jgrosso: cool, and thanks 15:51:51 #topic Open Discussion 15:51:53 your welcome 15:52:30 * tbarron waits a couple minutes 15:53:47 OK, thanks everyone, let's go fix bugs! See you on #oopenstack-manila! 15:53:54 #endmeeting