15:00:36 <tbarron> #startmeeting manila
15:00:38 <openstack> Meeting started Thu May 16 15:00:36 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:42 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'manila'
15:00:45 <bswartz> .o/
15:00:51 <ganso> hello
15:01:09 <lseki> hi
15:01:15 <tbarron> manila meeting courtesy ping: gouthamr xyang toabctl erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso
15:01:34 * tbarron waits a bit
15:01:39 <carloss> hey :)
15:02:04 <tbarron> good netapp turnout :)
15:02:54 <tbarron> busy day in my workspace and jgrosso is out sick
15:04:16 <tbarron> ok let's start
15:04:30 <tbarron> Agenda:
15:04:43 <tbarron> #Link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings
15:05:16 <tbarron> Thanks to gouthamr for running last week's meeting.
15:06:02 <tbarron> I'm at kubecon next week and on PTO the week after that so he has agreed to chair those meetings as well.
15:06:13 <bswartz> Barcelona again?
15:06:27 <tbarron> bswartz: yup, cephalocon too
15:06:35 <xyang> hi
15:06:46 <tbarron> where ill talk a bit about manila
15:07:14 <tbarron> #topicannouncements
15:07:29 <tbarron> #topic announcements
15:07:59 <tbarron> my right hand is in a cast so typing is poor-er than usual
15:08:18 <tbarron> we have photos from PTG!
15:08:28 <bswartz> oh no!
15:08:35 <bswartz> I thought your spacebar was on the fritz
15:08:54 <tbarron> #Link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fydqjehy9h5y728/AACql7AzbeYByedYevFvFUoia/Manila?dl=0&subfolder_nav_tracking=1
15:09:34 <tbarron> bswartz is missing from the photos but otherwise they are fine
15:09:44 <bswartz> ;-(
15:10:11 <tbarron> the second one shows what a great judicious deliberative body was at work
15:10:30 <tbarron> The other announcement is just a reminder
15:10:49 <tbarron> that you can edit the courtesy ping list here:
15:11:16 <tbarron> at the top of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings
15:11:30 <tbarron> if you don't want or do want to be pinged
15:12:09 <tbarron> there has been some discussion of these on the ML and projects that use them have been
15:12:23 <tbarron> encouraged to refresh the lists for accuracy
15:12:40 <tbarron> Anyone else have announcements?
15:13:05 <tbarron> #topic PTG summary
15:13:39 <tbarron> i think vkmc is out of office today but I want to thank her for sending out a great summary here
15:14:00 <tbarron> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006246.html
15:14:05 <bswartz> +1 ty vkmc
15:14:31 <tbarron> please check for accuracy, omissions, etc. but it seems very good to me
15:14:52 <tbarron> #topic planning our work
15:15:32 <tbarron> we agreed to make a work plan for Train on the wiki like we did for stein
15:15:55 <tbarron> people are responsible for keeping their own tasks up to date
15:16:16 <tbarron> thanks go to gouthamr for starting it up!
15:16:36 <tbarron> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/TrainCycle
15:16:55 <tbarron> Again, please reviw and update as appropriate.
15:17:33 <tbarron> At least look for mentions of your name/nick to see what we think you have signed up for :)
15:17:49 <tbarron> #topic specs
15:18:14 <tbarron> Work for Train begins with spec reviews.
15:18:34 <tbarron> Let's get some of these cleared now :)
15:18:55 <tbarron> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657894/
15:20:01 <tbarron> This one just moves unimplemented specsto a tracking folder.
15:20:12 <tbarron> anyone object?
15:20:18 * bswartz done
15:20:25 <tbarron> bswartz: ty!
15:20:45 <tbarron> https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659161/
15:21:07 <bswartz> When did we change from openstack.org to opendev.org?
15:21:34 <dviroel> Moving this one to Train also. lseki is the new assignee
15:21:56 <tbarron> needs another +2 +w
15:22:01 * bswartz done
15:22:12 <tbarron> bswartz: around cycle switch time
15:22:37 <tbarron> bswartz: you can read all about it in #openstack-discuss archives
15:22:41 <bswartz> I first notived it a week or 2 ago
15:22:47 <bswartz> noticed even
15:23:06 <tbarron> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657900/
15:23:37 <bswartz> What is "release independent"?
15:23:51 <tbarron> this is bswartz's nice handle race conditions spec
15:24:10 <tbarron> we plan to do work on this stuff in this cycle
15:24:46 <tbarron> but we'll likely want tolook at it for design principles and guidance in other cycles too
15:25:15 <tbarron> so we agreed at PTO to make a release independent folder for such specs
15:26:04 <bswartz> So no specific work in any release, just there for reference?
15:26:26 <tbarron> there may always be some additional work to do ..., but hopefully decreasing asymtopically :)
15:26:38 <tbarron> bswartz: yeah
15:27:23 <tbarron> bswartz: and the tracking wiki will have some specific tasks and refer backto this as
15:27:33 <tbarron> more or less an "epic"
15:27:54 <tbarron> so this one needs another approval besides me
15:28:36 <tbarron> xyang: will you do the courtesy?
15:28:52 <xyang> sure
15:28:59 <tbarron> xyang: ty!
15:29:32 <tbarron> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657893/
15:29:48 <tbarron> ok, this one is substantive
15:30:11 <tbarron> I like it and it has my +2 but it needs more critical eyes
15:30:38 <tbarron> please review it, whether you have +2 powers or not
15:31:07 <tbarron> (we look at +/-1 reviews to see who should become core revieweres)
15:31:34 * bswartz done
15:32:00 <tbarron> oh this one is actually a move forwards
15:32:20 <tbarron> but if you haven't read it, so so please :)
15:32:22 <bswartz> Yeah zero lines change
15:32:34 <bswartz> I recall this one
15:32:59 <tbarron> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/644218/
15:33:17 <tbarron> this isthe openstack client spec and it is WIP
15:33:36 <tbarron> we're suggesting that it be split into two specs
15:34:19 <tbarron> one that providesminimum viable product for our intern and that will clearly be achievable in train
15:34:35 <bswartz> This change doesn't do that though
15:34:41 <tbarron> and one that covers the remainder, and can be train stretch goasls
15:34:57 <bswartz> Okay so just read it and wait for a the split?
15:35:24 <tbarron> bswartz: yes and if there's something that seems off go on and indicate that
15:35:43 <bswartz> Oh this one is like designing a bikeshed
15:35:44 <tbarron> final spec for now
15:36:03 <tbarron> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/609537/
15:36:34 <dviroel> tbarron: I'm working on this one. Should updated it soon
15:36:38 <tbarron> This one is going to be re-worked
15:36:43 <tbarron> dviroel: jinx
15:37:04 <tbarron> dviroel: cool, I knew you were on it, just wanted to
15:37:22 <dviroel> =)
15:37:30 <tbarron> keep it in people's minds so we have an idea of the scopeof our spec reviews
15:37:49 <tbarron> Any other specs planned that I'm missing?
15:38:38 <tbarron> #topic bugs
15:39:08 <tbarron> jgrosso is out sick today but as usual did a bunch of stale bug cleanup this week
15:39:32 <tbarron> we're getting so we can actually see and act on our bug backlog
15:39:54 <tbarron> Anyone have a favorite bug that we should lookj at today?
15:40:24 <tbarron> crickets ...
15:40:35 <tbarron> #topic open discussion
15:41:33 <tbarron> Hearing nothing, some of us will go to an early lunch :)
15:41:39 <bswartz> Okay
15:42:01 <tbarron> Thanks everyone, see you in #openstack-manila!
15:42:12 <bswartz> Thanks
15:42:15 <dviroel> thks
15:42:21 <tbarron> #endmeeting