15:00:36 #startmeeting manila 15:00:38 Meeting started Thu May 16 15:00:36 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:40 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:42 The meeting name has been set to 'manila' 15:00:45 .o/ 15:00:51 hello 15:01:09 hi 15:01:15 manila meeting courtesy ping: gouthamr xyang toabctl erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso 15:01:34 * tbarron waits a bit 15:01:39 hey :) 15:02:04 good netapp turnout :) 15:02:54 busy day in my workspace and jgrosso is out sick 15:04:16 ok let's start 15:04:30 Agenda: 15:04:43 #Link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings 15:05:16 Thanks to gouthamr for running last week's meeting. 15:06:02 I'm at kubecon next week and on PTO the week after that so he has agreed to chair those meetings as well. 15:06:13 Barcelona again? 15:06:27 bswartz: yup, cephalocon too 15:06:35 hi 15:06:46 where ill talk a bit about manila 15:07:14 #topicannouncements 15:07:29 #topic announcements 15:07:59 my right hand is in a cast so typing is poor-er than usual 15:08:18 we have photos from PTG! 15:08:28 oh no! 15:08:35 I thought your spacebar was on the fritz 15:08:54 #Link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fydqjehy9h5y728/AACql7AzbeYByedYevFvFUoia/Manila?dl=0&subfolder_nav_tracking=1 15:09:34 bswartz is missing from the photos but otherwise they are fine 15:09:44 ;-( 15:10:11 the second one shows what a great judicious deliberative body was at work 15:10:30 The other announcement is just a reminder 15:10:49 that you can edit the courtesy ping list here: 15:11:16 at the top of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings 15:11:30 if you don't want or do want to be pinged 15:12:09 there has been some discussion of these on the ML and projects that use them have been 15:12:23 encouraged to refresh the lists for accuracy 15:12:40 Anyone else have announcements? 15:13:05 #topic PTG summary 15:13:39 i think vkmc is out of office today but I want to thank her for sending out a great summary here 15:14:00 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006246.html 15:14:05 +1 ty vkmc 15:14:31 please check for accuracy, omissions, etc. but it seems very good to me 15:14:52 #topic planning our work 15:15:32 we agreed to make a work plan for Train on the wiki like we did for stein 15:15:55 people are responsible for keeping their own tasks up to date 15:16:16 thanks go to gouthamr for starting it up! 15:16:36 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/TrainCycle 15:16:55 Again, please reviw and update as appropriate. 15:17:33 At least look for mentions of your name/nick to see what we think you have signed up for :) 15:17:49 #topic specs 15:18:14 Work for Train begins with spec reviews. 15:18:34 Let's get some of these cleared now :) 15:18:55 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657894/ 15:20:01 This one just moves unimplemented specsto a tracking folder. 15:20:12 anyone object? 15:20:18 * bswartz done 15:20:25 bswartz: ty! 15:20:45 https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659161/ 15:21:07 When did we change from openstack.org to opendev.org? 15:21:34 Moving this one to Train also. lseki is the new assignee 15:21:56 needs another +2 +w 15:22:01 * bswartz done 15:22:12 bswartz: around cycle switch time 15:22:37 bswartz: you can read all about it in #openstack-discuss archives 15:22:41 I first notived it a week or 2 ago 15:22:47 noticed even 15:23:06 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657900/ 15:23:37 What is "release independent"? 15:23:51 this is bswartz's nice handle race conditions spec 15:24:10 we plan to do work on this stuff in this cycle 15:24:46 but we'll likely want tolook at it for design principles and guidance in other cycles too 15:25:15 so we agreed at PTO to make a release independent folder for such specs 15:26:04 So no specific work in any release, just there for reference? 15:26:26 there may always be some additional work to do ..., but hopefully decreasing asymtopically :) 15:26:38 bswartz: yeah 15:27:23 bswartz: and the tracking wiki will have some specific tasks and refer backto this as 15:27:33 more or less an "epic" 15:27:54 so this one needs another approval besides me 15:28:36 xyang: will you do the courtesy? 15:28:52 sure 15:28:59 xyang: ty! 15:29:32 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657893/ 15:29:48 ok, this one is substantive 15:30:11 I like it and it has my +2 but it needs more critical eyes 15:30:38 please review it, whether you have +2 powers or not 15:31:07 (we look at +/-1 reviews to see who should become core revieweres) 15:31:34 * bswartz done 15:32:00 oh this one is actually a move forwards 15:32:20 but if you haven't read it, so so please :) 15:32:22 Yeah zero lines change 15:32:34 I recall this one 15:32:59 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/644218/ 15:33:17 this isthe openstack client spec and it is WIP 15:33:36 we're suggesting that it be split into two specs 15:34:19 one that providesminimum viable product for our intern and that will clearly be achievable in train 15:34:35 This change doesn't do that though 15:34:41 and one that covers the remainder, and can be train stretch goasls 15:34:57 Okay so just read it and wait for a the split? 15:35:24 bswartz: yes and if there's something that seems off go on and indicate that 15:35:43 Oh this one is like designing a bikeshed 15:35:44 final spec for now 15:36:03 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/609537/ 15:36:34 tbarron: I'm working on this one. Should updated it soon 15:36:38 This one is going to be re-worked 15:36:43 dviroel: jinx 15:37:04 dviroel: cool, I knew you were on it, just wanted to 15:37:22 =) 15:37:30 keep it in people's minds so we have an idea of the scopeof our spec reviews 15:37:49 Any other specs planned that I'm missing? 15:38:38 #topic bugs 15:39:08 jgrosso is out sick today but as usual did a bunch of stale bug cleanup this week 15:39:32 we're getting so we can actually see and act on our bug backlog 15:39:54 Anyone have a favorite bug that we should lookj at today? 15:40:24 crickets ... 15:40:35 #topic open discussion 15:41:33 Hearing nothing, some of us will go to an early lunch :) 15:41:39 Okay 15:42:01 Thanks everyone, see you in #openstack-manila! 15:42:12 Thanks 15:42:15 thks 15:42:21 #endmeeting