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15:01:25 <bswartz> .o/
15:01:29 <carloss> hi :)
15:01:35 <ganso> hello
15:01:36 <vhariria> hi all:)
15:01:49 <xyang> hi
15:01:50 <jgrosso> Hello !
15:01:50 <dviroel> o/
15:01:51 <lseki> hi
15:02:05 <tbarron> courtesy ping: gouthamr xyang toabctl bswartz ganso erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso dviroel lseki carloss
15:02:18 <amito> tbarron: good morning
15:02:18 <toabctl> hey
15:02:37 <tbarron> Hi all!
15:02:55 <tbarron> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting
15:03:07 <tbarron> Our agenda ^^^
15:03:21 <tbarron> #topic Announcements
15:04:11 <tbarron> #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html
15:04:51 <tbarron> Accoding to the train release schedule ^^^ we have one week until Manila Feature proposal freeze
15:05:30 <tbarron> at which point all new features must be proposed and substantially completed, including unit tests and doc
15:05:33 * gouthamr sneaks in
15:05:44 <tbarron> gouthamr: you are on PTO, go away
15:06:09 <tbarron> Then we have another three weeks until actual Feature Freeze
15:06:13 <gouthamr> tbarron: hehe :P
15:06:23 <tbarron> gouthamr: always good to see you though
15:06:51 <tbarron> Does anyone anticipate needing exceptions with regard to either of these deadlines?
15:07:15 <tbarron> crickets
15:07:17 <tbarron> good
15:07:25 <lseki> we might need some exception regarding docs
15:07:31 <lseki> for subnet stuff
15:07:42 <tbarron> lseki: ok, good to bring it up
15:08:09 <tbarron> lseki: maybe propose the doc reviews that you anticipate and mark them WIP
15:08:28 <tbarron> lseki: so we can at least agree on what needs to be done by the actual feature freeze
15:08:37 <tbarron> lseki: does that work for you?
15:09:05 <lseki> tbarron: I guess so
15:09:33 <lseki> there'll probably be some wip docs patches...
15:10:03 <tbarron> It is understood that in the three weeks between Feature Proposal Freeze and Feature Freeze that content of e.g. unit tests and docs and code will change.
15:10:07 <tbarron> with reviews
15:10:46 <tbarron> lseki: all I mean is a review with essentially empty content with promise to update the right docs, where you indicate which these are
15:11:05 <tbarron> lseki: we need to have agreement on the scope of the remaining work to be done
15:11:26 <lseki> tbarron: got it, we'll do it
15:11:32 <tbarron> lseki: thanks!
15:11:34 <lseki> thanks :-)
15:12:34 <tbarron> OK, next announcement
15:12:44 <tbarron> Summit and PTG schedule are up
15:13:11 <tbarron> and registration early cutoff is next week
15:13:29 <tbarron> please update our planning etherpad at
15:14:08 <tbarron> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-shanghai-ptg-planning
15:14:22 <tbarron> to indicate if you think you will be present or not
15:14:52 <tbarron> I have to respond to a query from the organizers as to how many we will have.
15:15:11 <tbarron> If you don't know for sure indicate that and your best guess.
15:15:26 <tbarron> Also, the schedule has been posted
15:15:43 <tbarron> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/summit-schedule
15:15:53 <tbarron> You'll find there two manila talks
15:16:10 <tbarron> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/summit-schedule/events/24239/adopt-a-share-today-how-to-bring-your-existing-shared-filesystem-under-manilas-management
15:16:30 <lseki> \o/
15:16:37 <tbarron> Thanks to the netapp folks for proposing that one and covering a major feature from Stein
15:16:51 <carloss> unfortunately for the manila talks the times are overlaping :/
15:17:01 <tbarron> https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/summit-schedule/events/24279/easy-multi-tenant-kubernetes-rwx-storage-with-cloud-provider-openstack-and-manila-csi
15:17:14 <tbarron> this one is only a lightnig
15:17:35 <tbarron> lightning talk currently but they said there's a good chance that it will be promoted
15:17:53 <tbarron> carloss: I'll ask about a schedule change in any case, thanks for pointing that out
15:18:19 <carloss> ok :)
15:18:41 <tbarron> Any other announcements?
15:19:23 <tbarron> #topic Python3 for Third Party CI
15:20:03 <tbarron> We talked about this the last couple weeks and I have now also sent out an email on the openstack-discuss list pushing
15:20:17 <tbarron> for vendors to update their CI to python 3
15:20:39 <tbarron> #LINK: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008255.html
15:21:19 <tbarron> It points to a section set up in our wiki for this subject, including a place where people can share tips, etc.
15:21:55 <tbarron> #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Manila/TrainCycle&action=submit#Python3_Testing
15:22:31 <tbarron> Does anyone here have any progress or other status to report on this front?
15:23:19 <carloss> yes, sfernand
15:23:48 <tbarron> sfernand: any status?
15:24:03 <sfernand> Netapp here. Our upstream jobs are already running py37
15:24:28 <tbarron> sfernand: awesome, so you are all done now?
15:25:21 <sfernand> yep, just finishing update our internal tempest jobs
15:25:25 <bswartz> \o/
15:25:39 <tbarron> sfernand: carloss lseki dviroel would you folks be so kind as to write a brief note at
15:25:50 <tbarron> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Manila/TrainCycle&action=submit#Python3_Testing
15:26:04 <tbarron> indicating your status and what you had to do
15:26:10 <tbarron> Also
15:26:29 <dviroel> tbarron: sure
15:26:30 <tbarron> the Dell-EMC folks are reporting in
15:26:39 <tbarron> dviroel: thanks much!
15:26:56 <tbarron> Also, the Dell-EMC VNX folks have hit an issue:
15:27:11 <tbarron> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1833160
15:27:12 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1833160 in Manila "VNX: driver cannot start under py37 due to wrap_socket() got an unexpected keyword argument '_context'" [Undecided,New]
15:27:29 <tbarron> with python3, eventlet, and urllib
15:27:52 <tbarron> carloss was kind enough to make some notes in that bug
15:28:09 <tbarron> they'd like to know some more specific version info at this point
15:28:26 <carloss> I missed his last comment, will answer the question he addressed
15:28:34 <tbarron> It's my hope that we can adjust requirements to get around their problem.
15:28:37 <tbarron> carloss: thanks!
15:28:58 <tbarron> amito: any plans for running with python3?
15:29:21 <amito> tbarron: I brought it up for the team which currently handles OpenStack
15:29:40 <tbarron> amito: k, thanks
15:29:58 <amito> tbarron: I believe we'll make the transition, it's part of the transition we make anyway with other parts of out infrastructure
15:30:09 <tbarron> kk
15:30:35 <amito> tbarron: (I'm still following up on our CI maintenance, even though I'm longer on that team ':P)
15:30:35 <tbarron> ok ....
15:30:53 <tbarron> amito: yeah we know you have bigger and better things to do now :)
15:30:56 <tbarron> just teasing
15:31:05 <amito> amito: :(
15:31:13 <tbarron> #topic Reviews
15:31:31 <amito> ... meant tbarron and somehow tagged myself
15:32:02 <tbarron> Since we have less than a month till feature freeze we'll set up a review focus etherpad and ask people to sign up for the remaining critical reviews.
15:32:09 <tbarron> But quickly
15:32:25 <tbarron> We're merging the Infortrend driver
15:32:41 <tbarron> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657775/
15:33:26 <tbarron> Thanks to those who reviewed this one, especially gouthamr, and to KuiRong for perservering through an extensive process
15:33:56 <tbarron> The NexentaStor "refactor" is progressing
15:34:14 <tbarron> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664269/
15:34:30 <tbarron> But we need some reviewers other than gouthamr to look at this one.
15:35:14 <tbarron> vkmc: we need to figure whether the keystone client removal
15:35:29 <tbarron> dependency removal
15:35:38 <tbarron> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/647538/
15:36:02 <tbarron> should merge more or less as is or whether it makes sense to address the simplifications that
15:36:08 <tbarron> cmurphy suggested first
15:36:32 <tbarron> carloss: I think your pagination performance fix
15:36:35 <vkmc> I need to address cmurphy comments yes
15:36:41 <vkmc> thanks for bringing this up
15:36:44 <vkmc> will do that this week
15:36:59 <tbarron> #link: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/650986/
15:37:18 <tbarron> is getting review attention and is making progress
15:37:28 <carloss> thanks tbarron and gouthamr for reviewing this patch
15:37:38 <tbarron> it's a bug fix so isn't at risk of not making it into Train anyways
15:38:29 <tbarron> vkmc: cool, it's really tech debt cleanup and schedule isn't critical but let's get it in by M3 if we're going to do it for train
15:39:02 <tbarron> one could argue that it's not a feature but I want "soak time" before release for this kind of change
15:39:08 <gouthamr> +1
15:39:15 <tbarron> Finally
15:39:19 <tbarron> the big one
15:39:21 <tbarron> :)
15:39:26 <carloss> haha
15:39:27 <dviroel> :)
15:39:38 <tbarron> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/share-network-multiple-subnets+(status:open+OR+status:merged)
15:39:43 <_pewp_> gouthamr (/ .□.) ︵╰(゜Д゜)╯︵ /(.□. )
15:39:44 <_pewp_> gouthamr (/ .□.) ︵╰(゜Д゜)╯︵ /(.□. )
15:39:44 <_pewp_> gouthamr (/ .□.) ︵╰(゜Д゜)╯︵ /(.□. )
15:39:45 <_pewp_> gouthamr (/ .□.) ︵╰(゜Д゜)╯︵ /(.□. )
15:39:46 <tbarron> we owe you guys reviews
15:39:46 <_pewp_> gouthamr (/ .□.) ︵╰(゜Д゜)╯︵ /(.□. )
15:39:47 <_pewp_> ...
15:39:48 <_pewp_> ...
15:39:49 <_pewp_> ...
15:39:49 <lseki> lol
15:39:50 <gouthamr> wow
15:40:07 <tbarron> gouthamr is on PTO I see
15:40:20 * gouthamr i only asked once, nicely
15:40:40 <tbarron> Anything to say at this point other than "please review asap"?
15:41:20 <tbarron> Any other reviews that we need to focus on before M3 deadline?
15:41:26 <carloss> Only thing I have to say is that we are about to submit a new patch for functional tests
15:42:01 <tbarron> carloss: cool, thanks.
15:42:02 <gouthamr> tbarron: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/update-share-type-name-or-description
15:42:17 <tbarron> gouthamr: oh yes, that's a good one
15:42:27 <tbarron> these guys are doing nice work
15:43:02 <tbarron> We'll put it on the review focus etherpad.
15:43:13 <gouthamr> carloss dviroel: were you able to run replication DHSS=True tests against the dummy driver?
15:43:32 <dviroel> tbarron: yes
15:44:00 <carloss> gouthamr:  yes
15:44:07 <gouthamr> tbarron: also https://review.opendev.org/#/c/642222/ - early reviews would be appreciated, there's still a lot to be done
15:44:40 <tbarron> I'll also mention that WooHyung Han is fixing the gluster-NFS driver and CI jobs!!
15:44:52 <gouthamr> ++
15:45:22 <dviroel> also, there is a new one here https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675368/
15:45:33 <tbarron> gouthamr: vkmc yes for the OSC client we need to factor off what will be done by M3 and be part of Train vs what will be ongoing work afterwards
15:46:07 <tbarron> dviroel: ok
15:46:35 <tbarron> Look for an email with [manila] review focus etherpad Real Soon Now
15:46:37 <vkmc> yes
15:46:47 <vkmc> need to sync up with s0ru
15:46:53 <tbarron> vkmc: ++
15:46:54 <gouthamr> tbarron: ack +1, asked enriquetaso and vkmc in a separate email, s0ru has been responding/updating the changes diligently
15:46:59 <gouthamr> vkmc: ++
15:47:09 <tbarron> #topic bugs
15:47:16 <tbarron> jgrosso: got anything for us?
15:47:30 <jgrosso> I do Tom !
15:47:50 <jgrosso> https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/167971  not sure what to do about this one
15:47:51 <openstack> Launchpad bug 167971 in Inkscape "Mask are truncated at png export" [Undecided,Fix released]
15:48:09 <jgrosso> lol
15:48:17 <jgrosso> nope https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1679715
15:48:19 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1679715 in Manila "Container/Docker driver does not release ports" [Undecided,New]
15:48:21 <jgrosso> that is better :)
15:49:01 <jgrosso> not getting much response
15:49:23 <gouthamr> grrrr
15:49:32 <gouthamr> the manifestations of this "bug"
15:49:47 * gouthamr looks for link of original
15:50:35 <gouthamr> #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1762900
15:50:36 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1762900 in Manila "tearDownClass manila_tempest_tests.tests.api.test_share_networks_negative.ShareNetworksNegativeTest Failed" [Low,Won't fix]
15:50:36 <bswartz> Why does that link say inkscape instead of manila?
15:51:04 <jgrosso> because first one was a bad cut and paste
15:51:05 <tbarron> bswartz: it was missing the last digit, 5
15:51:44 <jgrosso> ok gouthamr I willclose it
15:51:53 <tbarron> gouthamr: so are you saying jgross should update the bug he was asking about to be a duplicate of the one you mentioned?
15:51:54 <gouthamr> jgrosso: nope, mark it duplicate
15:52:06 <jgrosso> gouthamr ok
15:52:13 <gouthamr> tbarron: jinx, yep
15:52:16 <bswartz> Who maintains the docker driver?
15:52:23 <tbarron> bswartz: you do :)
15:52:29 <gouthamr> bswartz: "community" :)
15:52:32 <bswartz> So it's dead then?
15:52:50 * gouthamr hands out trouts to everyone else
15:52:51 <bswartz> I thought we talked about killing off unmaintained drivers at PTG
15:53:01 <tbarron> not by goutham's answer but yes by mine :)
15:53:27 <bswartz> It does no good to chase bugs in code that nobody uses
15:53:30 <tbarron> bswartz: we did but we have to get equivalent test coverage elsewhere and that takes time and work
15:53:37 <gouthamr> bswartz: er... there're some DHSS=True code paths we don't test with any other driver
15:53:48 <bswartz> So we still get some test coverage from the driver that we can't get elsewhere...
15:53:53 <bswartz> Okay
15:54:21 <gouthamr> bswartz: this one isn't a driver bug though - it's kinda confusing that vponomaryov opened it, it occurs against any DHSS=True driver
15:54:40 <bswartz> Ah
15:54:45 <tbarron> it's another tempest resource cleanup issue
15:55:32 <tbarron> which isn't worth fixing because we can test another way and not hit it
15:55:39 <tbarron> i think
15:55:42 <gouthamr> yeah, sort of the big one - tempest doesn't make it easy for us to share resources across tenants and persist share servers even after the original tenants are gone
15:55:52 <tbarron> jgrosso: got any more?
15:56:01 <jgrosso> one more
15:56:12 <jgrosso> https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1703560
15:56:13 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1703560 in Manila "No Active Directory support in generic driver for CIFS" [Undecided,In progress]
15:56:31 <jgrosso> is this a bug
15:56:53 <jgrosso> check Lucian answer
15:57:09 <bswartz> It sounds like an RFE
15:57:26 <tbarron> yeah, can make it wishlist
15:57:35 <bswartz> It's in a gray area between bugs and features
15:57:37 <jgrosso> will make it wishlist
15:57:41 <tbarron> but i'm looking at what happened to Jan Vondra's patch
15:57:47 <bswartz> Because it should have been done for test coverage reasons long ago
15:57:56 <bswartz> But it was expensive and didn't happen
15:58:17 <gouthamr> +1, Lucian's response is welcome - dunno how many folks realize they can just replace the generic driver with the windows driver and get the same benefits as far as CIFS is concerned
15:58:48 <tbarron> Looks like I failed to follow through on a promise to Jan to take this to our weekly meeting.
15:58:58 <tbarron> Or I did and didn't get back to him.
15:59:43 <tbarron> jgrosso: Maybe check with Jan and see if he still wants this and apologize for dropping it?
15:59:55 <jgrosso> tbarron will do !
16:00:01 <jgrosso> thanks all I had for today
16:00:07 <carloss> time check
16:00:08 <tbarron> we're out of time
16:00:25 <tbarron> Thanks all!  See you in #openstack-manila!
16:00:29 <tbarron> #endmeeting