15:00:34 <tbarron> #startmeeting manila
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15:00:38 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'manila'
15:00:39 <bswartz> .o/
15:00:43 <lseki> hi
15:00:44 <amito> .o/ hello!
15:00:49 <tbarron> courtesy ping: gouthamr xyang toabctl bswartz ganso erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso dviroel lseki carloss
15:00:54 <vkmc> o/
15:00:55 <jgrosso> hello!
15:00:57 <carloss> hey :)
15:01:13 <dviroel> o/
15:01:32 <toabctl> hey
15:01:50 * tbarron waits for seattle to wake up
15:02:16 <gouthamr> o/
15:02:24 <tbarron> Hello all!
15:02:28 * gouthamr i'm up i'm up
15:02:33 <tbarron> #topic agenda
15:02:45 <tbarron> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings
15:02:54 <vhari> o/
15:02:57 <tbarron> if you change it ping here and I'll reload
15:03:10 <tbarron> #topic Announcements
15:03:22 <tbarron> Schedule
15:03:36 <tbarron> #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html
15:04:15 <tbarron> It's week R-5
15:04:24 <tbarron> "R" is for release :)
15:05:05 <tbarron> This week is M-3, Feature Freeze, Client library final relase, Soft StringFreeze, and Requirements Freeze
15:05:11 <tbarron> among some other deadlines
15:05:27 <tbarron> we'll talk about pending features as a separate agenda item
15:05:57 <tbarron> But all in all we'll pivot next week to testing in preparation for
15:06:24 <tbarron> Release Candidate 1 which is targeted for the week of 23 September
15:07:05 <tbarron> When you do reviews, even for bug fixes, please be aware that we don't want to change user-facing strings at this point.
15:07:54 <tbarron> I will be proposing manila-ui and python-manilaclient releases towards the end of this week so if you have something critical for these
15:07:57 <tbarron> ping me
15:08:08 <dviroel> ack
15:08:09 <tbarron> I'm aware of the stuff on our review focus etherpad
15:08:50 <tbarron> Any remarks, questions, discussion w.r.t. schedule?
15:09:23 <tbarron> OK, let me also remind you that this is Forum brainstorming season
15:09:38 <tbarron> We will submit forum topics 20 September
15:09:52 <tbarron> and are collecting ideas and interest here:
15:10:06 <tbarron> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-shanghai-forum-brainstorming
15:10:35 <tbarron> You don't have to be going to Shanghai to make suggesetions or register interest.
15:10:49 <tbarron> So far we have two topics:
15:11:02 <tbarron> 1) U & V goals for Manila
15:11:09 <tbarron> 2) Manila CsI
15:11:56 <tbarron> We usually get pretty good ops attendance at these sessions and anticipate of course more engagement from APAC than usuaal
15:12:22 <tbarron> Does anyone have any other announcments today?
15:12:42 <tbarron> #topic tempest 3rd party CI
15:12:49 <tbarron> Any updates on this front?
15:13:17 <tbarron> crickets, folks have been busy with features given the deadline ....
15:13:35 <tbarron> I'll keep this as a standing agenda item so we can track ...
15:13:43 <tbarron> #topic cross project goals
15:14:29 <tbarron> Technically M3 is the deadline for these but it's to some extent up to the champions of these goals to determine the actual
15:14:32 <tbarron> deadline.
15:14:45 <bswartz> Did we achieve them all?
15:14:49 <tbarron> We don't have the test job for IPv6 that is coming.
15:14:52 <tbarron> still.
15:15:01 <tbarron> I don't anticipate issues there.
15:15:13 <tbarron> The other goal is pdf doc generation,
15:15:24 <tbarron> Thanks to toabctl we have this for manila proper.
15:15:50 <tbarron> we should ideally do it for the client and ui before we release them tomorrow.
15:16:35 <gouthamr> the PDF isn't getting published anywhere, though, yet?
15:16:40 <tbarron> If anyone wants to try this pls. ping me or just post a review, otherwise I may be able to attemot it.
15:16:47 <tbarron> gouthamr: I don't think so, no.
15:17:07 <gouthamr> ack - sorry i haven't caught up to it..
15:17:11 <tbarron> gouthamr: but that's a central thing I think, not something we change in each project.
15:17:28 <gouthamr> are the bindep changes required for us to do that eventually?
15:17:48 <tbarron> toabctl may know better than I
15:18:07 <tbarron> but I think that will be central too
15:19:00 <gouthamr> oh, awesome - although a bit weird for local testing
15:19:04 <tbarron> we may want to document something along those lines for local builds, etc. later
15:19:54 <tbarron> bswartz: did we answer your questions?
15:20:14 <bswartz> The IPv6 interests me
15:20:17 <bswartz> Who owns that?
15:20:34 <gouthamr> gmann does
15:20:38 <bswartz> AIUI, the openstack test cloud has supported ipv6 for yeras
15:20:40 <bswartz> years even
15:20:55 <bswartz> I wonder what the holdup could be
15:21:08 <gouthamr> yep, this one is to have an ipv6-exclusive job in each project
15:21:35 <tbarron> and gmann has already built the job for zuulv3 native jobs
15:22:16 <tbarron> he's now building an equivalent for legacy job frameworks
15:22:40 <tbarron> I think we'll be in good shape when it arrives
15:23:13 <gouthamr> https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2005477
15:23:16 <gouthamr> #LINK https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2005477
15:23:53 <gouthamr> there's a bunch of projects in TODO state; the jobs added have been finding bugs elsewhere
15:26:09 <tbarron> #Topic Our Work -- Reviews
15:26:21 <dviroel> \o/
15:26:25 <carloss> :)
15:26:34 <tbarron> #Link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-train-review-focus
15:26:42 <tbarron> Here's our review focus board
15:26:53 <tbarron> Let's start with the smaller ones
15:27:05 * tbarron teases dviroel and carloss
15:27:20 <tbarron> We have a UI fix
15:27:52 <tbarron> but it *is* a bug fix and so far as I can tell requires a corresponding fix in horizon
15:28:13 <tbarron> so I'm not going to wait on it before releasing the UI
15:28:28 <tbarron> we can do another point release if everything lines up later
15:28:36 <tbarron> it's not a *new* feature
15:29:01 <tbarron> We have vkmc's keystoneclient work in manilaclient
15:29:32 <tbarron> which has a -1 at this point
15:29:50 <tbarron> so unless that gets resolved quickly we'll carry that work forwards
15:30:22 <tbarron> since we need to release manilaclient this week.
15:30:33 <tbarron> Any comments/questions about those two?
15:30:53 <gouthamr> yes
15:30:56 * gouthamr looks for link
15:31:13 <gouthamr> #LINK https://review.opendev.org/#/c/647538/
15:31:48 <gouthamr> this does improve the client, but we should get this tested against manila-ui too, attn: vkmc
15:32:12 <gouthamr> i tested the session client, and the unit tests look good, but need to tty regarding the httpclient
15:32:18 * ganso sneaks in
15:32:36 * gouthamr has signed ganso's hall pass
15:32:42 * tbarron notices ganso
15:33:38 <tbarron> gouthamr: vkmc: we can do bug fixes after this week but no feature additions so you two decide risk/benefit of whether to
15:33:47 <tbarron> merge and defer some testing
15:33:55 <tbarron> or carry forward to the next release
15:34:08 <tbarron> my job is to push releases tomorrow at the latest
15:34:12 <tbarron> for client and ui
15:34:26 <gouthamr> tbarron: yeah, this change modifies the requirements file - i also don't know if it's time to do a 2.0 release
15:34:41 <tbarron> gouthamr: so put ptl hat on as well as reviewer hat when considering benefit/risk
15:35:09 <tbarron> all requirements changes have to be now, not later in this release
15:35:33 <tbarron> we don't need to answer the question here, the two of you can put your heads together and decide
15:35:53 <gouthamr> tbarron: we can talk on #openstack-manila after, but i'm a teeny bit wary about it surprising someone - vkmc's improved the code a lot and it's way more readable now
15:36:08 <tbarron> until U starts, "decide" means recommend strongly with reasons :)
15:36:31 * gouthamr practices roaring
15:36:34 <tbarron> :)
15:36:48 <tbarron> gouthamr will "roar" like a grizzly
15:37:18 <tbarron> OK, let's talk about these changees:
15:38:08 <tbarron> https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1oTdJn6s47tSKstH14NEaekm0V1zVnuOxs95Ljt7DI7Y/edit
15:38:16 * tbarron had to find the nice diagram
15:38:30 <tbarron> Where are we on 671043?
15:38:42 <tbarron> That's the key change here.
15:38:48 <dviroel> yeah
15:38:49 <gouthamr> ooh, arrows have shifted
15:39:00 <carloss> tbarron: i've submitted a new PS this morning addressing some gouthamr comments
15:39:10 <tbarron> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671043/
15:39:41 <dviroel> tbarron: we still need to add share-network-subnet-list operation, right gouthamr ?
15:40:00 <dviroel> tbarron: that is almost done
15:40:10 <gouthamr> dviroel: you don't need that right away - unless it's a slam dunk
15:40:48 <dviroel> gouthamr: ack, just need to add units test
15:40:58 <gouthamr> dviroel: nice, thanks
15:41:01 <tbarron> All, we've agreed that we can merge the tempest changes next week, after feature freeze, also the dummy driver change (it's not feature code)
15:41:34 <gouthamr> the dummy driver could always do DHSS=True replication 8)
15:42:02 <tbarron> But if this is going to make it we need 671043, 671044, and 675368
15:42:26 <dviroel> Dummy depends on 677573
15:42:43 <tbarron> forget dummy for this week is what I'm saying
15:43:00 <dviroel> tbarron: yeah
15:43:45 <tbarron> carloss: dviroel: gouthamr: i'll probably be paying attention but ping me when you've merged 671044
15:43:51 <tbarron> or when it needs workflow
15:44:03 <carloss> tbarron: ack
15:44:16 <tbarron> b/c I'll try to not release python-manilaclient until it's ready
15:44:31 <dviroel> tbarron: ack, thanks
15:44:39 <tbarron> but please get it ready in reasonable time :)
15:44:40 <carloss> I need to fix two tests regarding 671044
15:44:56 <carloss> tbarron: sure
15:44:58 <dviroel> tbarron: sure
15:45:26 <tbarron> I'm grousing, pushing, but also want to express lots of appreciation for the work that dviroel carloss lseki and gouthamr are doing
15:45:38 <tbarron> This is complicated stuff and impacts the core
15:45:55 <tbarron> So I really appreciate your perseverance and attention to quality.
15:46:02 <carloss> yeah, thank you folks for the support with the changes
15:46:07 <dviroel> yes, thanks gouthamr for reviewing all those changes so far
15:46:12 <carloss> ^
15:46:17 <tbarron> Anything else on this?
15:46:33 <tbarron> any other review topics we've missed?
15:47:01 <tbarron> #Topic Bugs
15:47:10 <tbarron> jgrosso: got any for us this week?
15:47:14 <jgrosso> I dont have anything today Tom
15:47:33 * tbarron imitates a hungry lizard
15:47:35 <gouthamr> \o\ /o/
15:47:38 <tbarron> jgrosso: oh well
15:47:43 <tbarron> thanks anyways
15:47:51 <tbarron> Anyone else?
15:48:06 <tbarron> #topic Open Discussion
15:48:37 <tbarron> crickets
15:48:44 <tbarron> OK, thanks everyone!!
15:48:49 <carloss> thanks tbarron
15:48:50 <tbarron> Let's get to work!
15:48:55 <dviroel> Thanks guys
15:48:56 <bswartz> Ty
15:48:58 <lseki> thanks
15:49:05 <tbarron> #endmeeting