15:00:45 <gouthamr_> #startmeeting manila
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15:00:52 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'manila'
15:00:56 <lseki> \o/
15:01:01 <carloss> hey :)
15:01:04 <gouthamr_> wow, would have helped if i changed my nick before starting :P
15:01:06 <bswartz> .o/
15:01:06 <jgrosso> hello
15:01:16 <bswartz> Make me a chair and then rename yourself
15:01:29 <gouthamr_> courtesy ping: xyang toabctl ganso erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso dviroel tbarron
15:01:32 <dviroel> o/
15:01:35 <gouthamr_> #chair bswartz
15:01:36 <openstack> Current chairs: bswartz gouthamr_
15:01:37 <ganso> o/
15:01:43 <gouthamr_> #chair tbarron
15:01:43 <openstack> Current chairs: bswartz gouthamr_ tbarron
15:01:50 <bswartz> #chair gouthamr
15:01:51 <openstack> Current chairs: bswartz gouthamr gouthamr_ tbarron
15:01:59 <gouthamr> yay :) thanks bswartz
15:02:00 <tbarron> ni
15:02:31 <gouthamr> Thank you for joining, looks like we have our usual suspects here, as bswartz would say - let's begin
15:02:47 <gouthamr> Meeting agenda:
15:02:50 <gouthamr> #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting
15:03:02 <gouthamr> #topic Announcements
15:03:51 <gouthamr> nothing standing out this week, but, we're less than two weeks away to the Shanghai PTG (which we'll discuss a little bit about)
15:04:17 <gouthamr> and about 30 weeks away from the Ussuri release, per
15:04:24 <gouthamr> #link: https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html Ussuri Release Schedule
15:04:34 <bswartz> I have announcement
15:05:03 <gouthamr> bswartz: go for it..
15:05:14 <bswartz> I've had 3 jobs since I stepped down as Manila PTL, and my newest job (starting this week) will take me further away from OpenStack
15:05:34 <bswartz> NetApp is still very committed to OpenStack, but I'm going to stop attending these meetings
15:05:50 <dviroel> =(
15:05:52 <carloss> :(
15:05:54 <gouthamr> sigh :(
15:05:59 <lseki> );
15:06:10 <bswartz> I have too many new responsibilities to keep up my already minimal participation
15:06:11 <tbarron> it better be a good one :(
15:06:38 <bswartz> I'll be on IRC still and reachable for discussions
15:07:13 <bswartz> My actual membership in the OpenStack foundation must have lapsed like a year ago since I have no commits to my name in a very long time
15:07:15 <gouthamr> bswartz: understandable... thank you so much for being available for this long though your focus changed a while ago
15:07:49 <tbarron> Yes, I don't mean to be graceless :)  Thanks for everything bswartz.
15:07:56 <gouthamr> bswartz: and ofcourse, we're going to need you! you're on my IRC speed-dial
15:08:15 <bswartz> It's probably a good idea to revoke my core reviewer status. If my input is required in the future on patches, I'm happy to give +1/-1 reviews
15:08:59 <bswartz> I'm very happy to see the project continue to be successful without much help from me
15:09:26 <bswartz> tbarron and gouthamr you have both done a great job keeping the project going strong
15:09:27 <gouthamr> :) are you going to be at KubeCon?
15:10:05 <bswartz> And I have faith that our NetApp devleopment team will continue to help drive forward the project goals
15:10:25 <bswartz> Well I have a ticket to kubecon, by my airfare is trapped in finance hell
15:10:37 <bswartz> So fingers crossed, yes I will be a kubecon
15:10:48 <gouthamr> oh, cross country drive not an option?
15:10:53 <bswartz> Hehehe
15:11:07 <bswartz> It's mostly the company reorg that's causing budget issues
15:11:40 <bswartz> NetApp like most companies reorganizes fairly regularly
15:12:03 <bswartz> Anyways that's all I have
15:12:19 <bswartz> I'm immensely pleased to see Manila continue to be successful
15:12:29 <gouthamr> word only suggests negative stuff to me, although it's supposed to help with the company's growth and sustenance and all that
15:12:47 <gouthamr> but, change's good we believe
15:12:51 <tbarron> most companies reorg about the time you get the last one figured out
15:13:06 <tbarron> and rename products
15:13:46 <gouthamr> haha, true - recalls a colleague who stopped printing business cards
15:14:29 <gouthamr> cool, bswartz - i do have a request - i'd like to take you off the core team post PTG
15:14:46 <bswartz> Yeah please do
15:14:50 <gouthamr> ofcourse, if my colleagues on the core team (including yourself) agree to this ^
15:15:19 <gouthamr> i have some proposals for core team expansion coming - but, we're working through them
15:15:44 * gouthamr turns and smiles at some cool contributors we have, stepping up to fill these roles
15:16:06 <gouthamr> any other announcements?
15:16:25 <gouthamr> #topic Release from stable/queens
15:16:49 <gouthamr> #link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010161.html ML discussion on stable/queens going EM
15:17:21 <gouthamr> alright, a few of us have been busy proposing backports and tagging candidate bugs that we'd like to get fixed in this branch
15:17:44 <gouthamr> thank you for your efforts - the deadline for this transition is this week
15:17:55 <gouthamr> although, not all projects are ready, including ours at the moment
15:18:12 <gouthamr> we have a backport request from Dell EMC for their Unity driver
15:18:37 <gouthamr> #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1845135
15:18:37 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1845135 in Manila "Failed to enable ipv6 mgmt IP for Unity manila driver (queens)" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to DingDong (dingdino)
15:19:13 <gouthamr> it's significant in the sense that, the driver has support for IPv6 in the queens release, but fails to start up
15:20:00 <gouthamr> the bugfix is now in stable/stein and needs to be in stable/rocky and then stable/queens
15:20:27 <gouthamr> the owner's in China it appears, which adds to this lag to get this fixed...
15:20:39 <gouthamr> so, we'll try to get this in, before we tag the final release
15:20:46 <tbarron> shall i go on and do the next cherry-pick?
15:20:47 <gouthamr> are there any concerns with this?
15:21:05 <tbarron> no, let's just get it done IMO
15:21:20 * gouthamr correction...
15:22:06 <tbarron> ?
15:22:09 <gouthamr> the owner's in China, and submits fixes during their daytime - most of our reviewers are asleep then, so can't give him quick feedback - that's the lag :)
15:22:19 <gouthamr> China causes no lag :)
15:22:31 <tbarron> :)
15:22:51 <gouthamr> which reminds us, constantly that we need some reviewers in these timezones
15:23:32 <dviroel> ++
15:23:42 <gouthamr> anyway, thank you tbarron - if you'd like to propose the backport, i'm okay with it
15:23:59 <gouthamr> it is a simple change, ofcourse the tests and release notes are bigger
15:24:17 <gouthamr> they version their driver, so on these older branches, they are bumping up the minor version
15:24:22 <gouthamr> for this bugfix
15:24:57 <gouthamr> that's all about this topic - thanks for reviewing tbarron dviroel
15:25:07 <dviroel> yw
15:25:49 <gouthamr> #topic Python manilaclient breakage
15:25:59 <gouthamr> this has been a painful one
15:26:25 <gouthamr> the breakage in the python-manilaclient gate can be seen here:
15:26:28 <gouthamr> #link: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686142/ (no-code-change patch)
15:26:52 <gouthamr> the initial bug with this was worked around via tempest
15:27:10 <gouthamr> we use tempest as a library here, and not as a "service" installed via devstack
15:27:57 <gouthamr> so, the tempest team posted a workaround for a breakage in the underlying tooling (testtools, unittest)
15:28:02 <gouthamr> and proposed a release
15:28:07 <gouthamr> but, we hit this bug:
15:28:11 <gouthamr> #link: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849377 (share networks tests bug)
15:28:11 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1849377 in python-manilaclient "Share network create and update test is failing" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Carlos Eduardo (silvacarlose)
15:28:30 <gouthamr> carloss has a fix up:
15:28:33 <gouthamr> #link: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/690411/ (fix for LP 1849377)
15:28:51 <gouthamr> however, the tests are still failing
15:29:25 <gouthamr> these functional tests on the client are a lot different from the unit tests and tempest tests that we run elsewhere
15:29:39 <gouthamr> there appear to be no useful logs
15:31:02 <gouthamr> the failures are all skips, which leads me to believe the tempest workaround  (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847749) didn't work entirely for us
15:31:02 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1847749 in tempest "Tempest tests fail with skip exception for stestr > 2.5.0 due to teststool #issue 272 " [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Ghanshyam Mann (ghanshyammann)
15:32:12 <gouthamr> bringing this up here to check if anyone has cycles to investigate this failure
15:33:03 <dviroel> gouthamr: I may have some time to help on this, since I'm not going to Shanghai..
15:33:34 <gouthamr> dviroel: nice, thank you for volunteering
15:33:54 <gouthamr> dviroel: i'll open a bug on LP and call your attention to it after this meeting
15:34:05 <dviroel> gouthamr: ok
15:34:28 <gouthamr> alright alright alright
15:34:31 <gouthamr> #topic: Ussuri PTG
15:35:03 <gouthamr> our in-person PTG is scheduled for 6th November 2019, Wednesday
15:35:42 <gouthamr> it's between 9:00 AM and 4:30 PM local time (Shanghai)
15:35:57 <gouthamr> #link: https://object-storage-ca-ymq-1.vexxhost.net/swift/v1/6e4619c416ff4bd19e1c087f27a43eea/www-assets-prod/Uploads/PTG-Shanghai2019-Map-Schedule.pdf (Map and Schedule for the Ussuri PTG in Shanghai)
15:36:32 <gouthamr> as mentioned in previous weeks, tbarron will be driving this gathering, and i'm working with him on the scheduling
15:37:05 <gouthamr> for the most part, the meeting will not suffice, because many of our contributors aren't going to be in Shanghai
15:37:43 <gouthamr> so, yesterday i posted a poll to the mailing list asking for a feasible date for a remote-only PTG
15:37:45 <gouthamr> #link: https://xoyondo.com/dp/qQbsoHtNhi4DCki Remote-only PTG Poll
15:37:57 <gouthamr> if you haven't already, please take this poll ^
15:38:40 <gouthamr> feel free to not put your real name if you like :)
15:38:48 * gouthamr looks like a bunch of us missed that opportunity
15:39:14 <dviroel> maybe next time =)
15:39:23 <gouthamr> #link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010332.html (Mailing List post for the remote PTG)
15:39:45 <gouthamr> that said, we have a bunch of topics already added here:
15:39:47 <gouthamr> #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-shanghai-ptg-planning PTG Planning Etherpad
15:40:05 <gouthamr> if you'd like to discuss anything, please add your topic/s at the bottom of the etherpad
15:40:50 <gouthamr> also, if you see any topic without a lead, please feel free to claim it - i'd appreciate spreading the responsibility around
15:40:51 <gouthamr> you know i talk a lot
15:41:37 <gouthamr> that's all i had regarding this - please note, if you're in shanghai that there's a team photo
15:41:41 <gouthamr> #link: https://ethercalc.openstack.org/lnupu1sx6ljl
15:42:12 <gouthamr> tbarron signed us up for 11:50-12:00, local time on Thursday, 7th Nov
15:42:14 <tbarron> gouthamr: ty for reminding
15:42:32 <gouthamr> be there in your best attire and say zorilla
15:42:57 <tbarron> no photos Wednesday or we would have just done it during a manila ptg session break
15:44:01 <gouthamr> we should have some folks from other projects join us there: i know we'll have some who work on tripleo, ceph
15:44:15 <gouthamr> feel free to invite more friends of manila
15:44:24 <gouthamr> anything else regarding this $topic?
15:44:44 <gouthamr> #topic: Add Horizon folks to manila-ui-core? (tbarron)
15:44:52 <gouthamr> you're up, tbarron
15:45:17 <tbarron> I just wanted to call attention to the question that the Horizon folks asked:
15:45:26 <tbarron> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010303.html
15:45:36 <jgrosso> People use Horizon?
15:45:38 <jgrosso> :)
15:45:50 <tbarron> where they are suggesting adding some horizon folks to each plugin
15:46:06 <tbarron> since teams typically don't have django expertise and
15:46:28 <tbarron> may not be up-to-date on all the initiatives coming in horizon itself
15:47:10 <gouthamr> ack, +1
15:47:15 <tbarron> gouthamr will probably decide on this but it seemed worth seeing if anyone has objections to this idea.
15:47:21 <tbarron> I don't, I like it.
15:47:45 <gouthamr> personally, i'm sometimes clueless each time i see some refactor patch come through
15:47:57 <gouthamr> i rely a lot on horizon cores' input
15:48:14 <gouthamr> which is why, bswartz added them to manila-ui a long time ago
15:48:26 <gouthamr> #link: https://review.opendev.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/manila-ui,access (who has access to manila-ui)
15:48:26 <tbarron> :)
15:49:02 <gouthamr> so we're one of the few plugins that already allow horizon cores to +2/+W patches
15:49:06 <tbarron> so we should just reply with endorsement
15:49:16 <gouthamr> ack, +1 tbarron
15:50:06 <carloss> +1 tbarron
15:50:11 <gouthamr> since they referenced meeting notes, i'll say - e0ne, amotoki, vishalmanchanda and many other horizon contributors have been incredibly helpful in helping us maintain our plugin
15:50:19 <amotoki> as my hat of horizon, manila team is very responsible on reviews  in manila-uicompared to other teams. much appreciated. I believe we can collaborate well so far and in future.
15:50:23 <tbarron> perfect
15:50:47 <tbarron> amotoki: thanks, and thanks for all your help
15:50:57 <gouthamr> amotoki: +1, thank you!
15:50:58 <dviroel> amotoki: ty
15:51:04 <amotoki> you all too
15:52:02 <gouthamr> thanks for bringing it up tbarron
15:52:06 <gouthamr> anything else?
15:52:51 <gouthamr> we're going to skip over our regularly scheduled "Bugs with jgrosso" programming for this week
15:53:02 <jgrosso> :)
15:53:13 <gouthamr> we have a few we're working on, and jgrosso hasn't seen any pop up that need our attention
15:53:23 <gouthamr> #topic: Open Discussion
15:54:15 <gouthamr> #link: https://www.space.com/quantum-computer-milestone-supremacy.html
15:54:28 <gouthamr> anyone going to investigate adding manila plugin there?
15:54:44 <tbarron> :)
15:55:01 <tbarron> yes and no, you'll have to check to find which
15:55:37 <gouthamr> which backend?
15:55:41 <gouthamr> generic ofcourse!
15:56:18 <gouthamr> okay, if there's nothing else, heartiest Diwali greetings to those celebrating the festival of lights this week
15:56:28 <gouthamr> thank you for joining
15:56:36 <bswartz> Thanks!
15:56:47 <gouthamr> #endmeeting