15:00:47 #startmeeting manila 15:00:48 Meeting started Thu Mar 19 15:00:47 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:49 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:51 The meeting name has been set to 'manila' 15:00:56 o/ 15:01:15 o/ 15:01:16 o/ 15:01:17 o/ 15:01:24 o/ 15:01:30 courtesy ping: xyang toabctl ganso amito tbarron 15:01:42 hi 15:02:07 o/ 15:02:13 o/ hello everyone! 15:02:21 Hi 15:02:31 welcome, ty for joining.. 15:02:40 here's our agenda: 15:02:40 hi 15:02:43 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting 15:03:11 pretty empty agenda today, lets see if we can get through it quickly 15:03:17 #topic Announcements 15:03:59 :-( 15:04:12 First off, I hope you're all doing okay in this terrible pandemic 15:04:25 o/ 15:05:04 I hope we'll get through this soon, but in light of everything that's going on 15:05:30 the foundation has decided to move on the next PTG, and make it entirely virtual 15:05:47 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2020-March/002854.html ([OpenStack Foundation] Update on OpenDev + PTG (Vancouver)) 15:06:08 :( 15:06:48 many of you may not have subscribed to that email list, and that's okay - mark's trying to gather volunteers to get this PTG going 15:06:50 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Virtual_PTG_Planning. 15:07:05 Please sign up if you would like to volunteer, or add any ideas to that etherpad... 15:08:14 we'll discuss how we'd like to structure our PTG based on the outcomes from that collaboration ^ 15:08:56 :( 15:08:58 i'd like your ideas for that, so please think of any suggestions and i'll bring up this as a topic in a future meeting 15:10:03 up next week is a deadline for nominations to be on the Technical Committee, or serve as manila PTL! 15:10:19 #link https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html (Ussuri Release Schedule) 15:11:05 please talk to me if you'd like to submit your candidacy... there're some really good ideas around project team structuring and the ptl role on the mailing list 15:11:33 looks like Victoria nominated herself for TC! 15:11:52 i'm plugged in as far as reading them and nodding, or smirking :) 15:11:58 back when the schedule was written .... 15:12:01 * tbarron ducks 15:12:18 I liked making this change: ‘Victoria’ PTL self-nomination 15:12:24 :P 15:12:31 she's going to it all! 15:12:53 :) 15:13:25 anyway, we're ~3 weeks away from the feature freeze deadline, and we'll discuss reviews and pending feature merges today 15:13:56 the schedule for the next release has been up too 15:13:58 #link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html 15:14:17 It lacks project specific deadlines right now, i'll add them soon-ish and call your attention to it 15:14:27 that's all i had in terms of announcements 15:14:31 anyone else got any? 15:14:55 okay, moving on... 15:14:59 #topic Call for doc on Generic Driver Issues (vkmc) 15:15:13 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1867950 15:15:14 Launchpad bug 1867950 in Manila "[doc][rfe] Need to call out Generic Driver limitations" [Undecided,New] 15:15:43 vkmc: i volunteered you for this topic, since you brought it up to us on several occasions last week 15:16:25 the problem is well understood i think, since we have spoken about it in past irc meetings and events 15:17:14 many folks onboard to manila by looking at the reference architecture 15:17:25 as is the heading on this document: 15:17:34 #link https://docs.openstack.org/manila/latest/admin/generic_driver.html#known-restrictions (Generic approach for share provisioning) 15:18:31 so it may give the impression that this approach/driver is well vetted for production use 15:19:25 while we're aware of some instances of its use in public/private clouds - this driver is largely supported by the community, and as such hasn't received much love in terms of fixing all of its known issues 15:20:31 so, there was a thought that we ought to call out all the limitations in the documentation so we can inform folks better when they're trying to put manila into production 15:21:23 i'd like for us to update that bug report with things so we can compile it in one place before we add the doc 15:22:02 as vkmc suggested, it'd be a nice low-hanging-fruit bug for a new contributor 15:22:46 anything else, vkmc? 15:23:53 okay, that's about it i think 15:23:56 #topic Tracking our work 15:24:05 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ussuri-review-focus 15:24:45 Thank you for keeping this etherpad updated, and for those that already signed up to review stuff! 15:25:12 for the next couple of weeks, this will be our focus - try and get these patches merged 15:25:27 if you have anymore reviews to add, please do at the end of that list 15:27:17 let's get cracking on reviews, and if you don't hear back from folks that have signed up to review, please reach out to me 15:27:25 #topic Bugs (vhari) 15:27:35 you're up vhari 15:27:37 #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug Triage etherpad) 15:27:53 ty, gouthamr 15:28:04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1810988 15:28:05 Launchpad bug 1810988 in Manila "[tempest] migration tests often fail with ssh timeouts " [High,In progress] 15:28:42 hmm, so we have had this bug set to high for over a year now 15:28:45 gouthamr, sorry, got distracted, wrt 1867950 already suggested an Outreachy applicant to take it as first contribution 15:28:46 floating this out for any updates 15:28:49 yeah 15:28:55 vkmc: awesome! thank you 15:28:58 np 15:29:47 vhari: yeah, lets lower the priority, these tests are not failing on voting jobs so we're not consumed by it - although i suspect we didn't do anything to improve the situation 15:30:35 yikes launchpad doesn't like me today 15:30:42 gouthamr, makes sense - anything else want to add here 15:31:09 vhari: i suggest lowering the priority to low, and resetting the status to "New" 15:31:39 gouthamr, ack, done 15:31:55 next up 15:32:00 https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1660825 15:32:01 Launchpad bug 1660825 in Manila "Share capabilities are missing from share instance model" [Undecided,New] 15:32:31 ah, this one is an old, low hanging fruit 15:32:40 it's not really a bug if it doesn't affect anyone :) 15:33:00 shall we close it :) 15:33:00 wishlist maybe? 15:33:01 it's utmost a wishlist - i think i was just being pedantic 15:33:56 vhari vkmc: yes, so here's teh problem - there are things we know that are in the share model that can help drivers when acting on any share 15:34:02 like the attributes mentioned on the bug 15:34:27 gouthamr, so... it's an enhancement 15:34:32 but, we don't pass them down... drivers are already written in a way to call back into the database and retrieve the share type 15:34:32 to have those attributes available 15:35:01 so, if we make this change, in theory they can avoid that call - however, driver authors may still not have everything they need 15:35:21 i was also thinking that we pass down the share type object as a share attribute 15:35:28 to totally avoid this call 15:35:45 extra call* - so yes, it's an enhancement 15:36:06 to avoid an unnecessary round trip to the database from within a share driver 15:36:36 we should add this to the bug description 15:36:50 vkmc: yes, i agree 15:36:56 I can do that 15:36:59 I think 15:37:03 vkmc: ack, ty 15:37:06 np 15:37:08 vkmc++ 15:37:18 vhari: we'll set this one to wishlist - thank you for bringing it up 15:37:22 makes sense, puts a different spin to the bug 15:37:33 yw gouthamr 15:37:51 done 15:38:02 triaged it to confirmed/wishlist 15:38:03 if nothing else on this one.. will call it a wrap for Bugs today 15:38:05 and adding more info 15:38:10 thank you vkmc 15:38:14 thank you vhari 15:38:20 #topic Open Discussion 15:39:36 i know the morales around the globe are low at the moment, so i'm very glad you're all safe and able to make it to this meeting 15:40:21 it'll probably get much worse, but if you'd like to discuss something, this community would be glad to listen and participate... 15:40:22 \o/ 15:40:27 :( 15:41:12 we have hope, and that's always the thing that matters :) 15:42:28 anyone has anything else to bring up in this meeting? 15:43:23 thank you all for joining - please review the items on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ussuri-review-focus and see you on #openstack-manila! 15:43:28 ty 15:43:29 thanks, gouthamr 15:43:31 thanks! 15:43:31 ty 15:43:33 #endmeeting