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15:01:22 <carloss> o/
15:01:27 <maaritamm> o/
15:01:28 <dviroel> o/
15:01:36 <vhari> o/
15:01:37 <lseki> o/
15:01:42 <andrebeltrami> hi
15:01:46 <tbarron> \o/
15:01:52 <gouthamr> courtesy ping: ganso vkmc felipe_rodrigues
15:02:17 <gouthamr> welcome, and thank you for joining o/
15:02:34 <gouthamr> lets begin with
15:02:40 <gouthamr> #topic Announcements
15:02:53 <gouthamr> The PTG Summaries have been posted
15:03:06 <gouthamr> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/thread.html (Wallaby PTG Summary)
15:03:38 <gouthamr> there're a bunch of action items and owners identified
15:04:04 <gouthamr> we might call upon folks with AIs from time to time here to share updates
15:04:35 <gouthamr> no other announcements today, i hope everyone had a great weekend's rest after the long PTG
15:05:12 <gouthamr> lets take a quick peek at the Wallaby release schedule
15:05:22 <gouthamr> #link https://releases.openstack.org/wallaby/schedule.html (Wallaby Release Schedule)
15:05:59 <gouthamr> next few deadlines to remember are the Wallaby-1 milestone (Dec 04 2020)
15:06:12 <gouthamr> and Manila Spec Freeze (Dec 25 2020)
15:06:35 <gouthamr> so please plan your work accordingly :)
15:06:47 <gouthamr> any other announcements?
15:07:11 <gouthamr> grrr
15:07:19 <gouthamr> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018544.html (Wallaby PTG Summary)
15:07:37 <gouthamr> if not, lets move on
15:07:45 <gouthamr> #topic PTG Follow up
15:08:21 <gouthamr> we had a few topics we couldn't catch up with during the PTG
15:08:37 <gouthamr> one of those was this review from tbarron
15:08:46 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/636770/  (High level vision document)
15:08:53 <gouthamr> s/review/patch
15:09:12 <tbarron> hmm, the author hasn't updated it in a bit
15:09:51 <gouthamr> ah, lets remind him then! :P
15:09:57 <tbarron> but never got a lot of engagement from reviewers (current PTL excepted)
15:10:24 <tbarron> I'll give it a refresh and kick.
15:10:35 <tbarron> kick the author
15:10:47 <gouthamr> awesome, i'd like the rest of us to pay attention and review this
15:11:29 <gouthamr> it's high time we put some of those thoughts into words and placed them in our docs for a wider audience
15:11:56 <gouthamr> tbarron once you update it, do add folks to review
15:12:05 <tbarron> kk
15:12:16 * dviroel add himself to reviewers list
15:13:21 <gouthamr> ty dviroel
15:13:22 <gouthamr> like we noted earlier, there's a lot to catch up on in terms of actions post PTG - are there any questions/concerns at the moment?
15:14:19 <gouthamr> i'm hoping someone will get https://review.opendev.org/#/c/758868/ moving along
15:14:51 <gouthamr> dviroel carloss vkmc tbarron - can you folks +/- 1 ^
15:15:01 <dviroel> yep
15:15:14 <carloss> sure
15:15:44 <gouthamr> great, ty
15:16:13 <gouthamr> okay if there are no other concerns, lets move on to talk about bugs
15:16:20 <gouthamr> #topic Bugs (vhari)
15:16:27 <gouthamr> o/ vhari
15:16:38 <vhari> gouthamr \o
15:16:48 * dviroel will be afk for 3 minutes
15:17:04 <vhari> first off we wanted to follow up about the bugsquash
15:17:40 <vhari> hoping to schedule a session next couple of weeks to discuss 'Wallaby-1 for bigger bugs that require API/DB changes as identified in the last Cycle'
15:17:42 <vhari> :)
15:18:09 <vhari> few options 11/12 or 11/19 for dates
15:18:33 <gouthamr> great! we could use this hour to triage stuff like we have in the past
15:18:47 <tbarron> +1
15:18:49 <gouthamr> although your thought is we'd be working on bugs already triaged/picked up?
15:18:54 <vhari> we talked about it in detail at ptg - checking in case any questions on this
15:19:13 <vhari> gouthamr, ack or any new ones not discussed ..
15:19:28 <gouthamr> good point - we'll always have those :)
15:19:42 <vhari> I have a preliminary list for folks to review and come up with target bugs to work on
15:19:58 <vhari> here is the list .. https://ethercalc.openstack.org/birpr9a6bd0b
15:20:13 <vhari> it's living document :) as things shift in and out
15:20:26 <vhari> so we can use ^^ as content for the session
15:20:36 <vhari> does anyone have a preference on the date?
15:20:45 <tbarron> fwiw I may be out of office on 11/12
15:21:05 <vhari> k
15:21:29 <gouthamr> i'm okay with either dates, lets go with one that most of us can make it for
15:21:52 <vhari> any objections to 11/19?
15:22:00 * gouthamr remembers vkmc is out today
15:22:18 * dviroel is back
15:22:18 <vhari> gouthamr, ack
15:22:31 <vhari> 11/19 - going once?
15:22:51 <gouthamr> maaritamm, netappers, what say you?
15:22:58 <carloss> 11/19 lgtm
15:22:59 <vhari> twice ......
15:23:07 <dviroel> +1 for 11/19
15:23:16 <felipe_rodrigues> +1  both
15:24:02 <vhari> cool we'll have the next bugsquash 11/19
15:24:02 <andrebeltrami> +1
15:24:45 <vhari> awesome .. done
15:24:56 <vhari> moving on to bugs for today ..
15:25:08 <vhari> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1902854
15:25:09 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1902854 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "migration get progress missing fields" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Maurice Escher (maurice-escher)
15:25:22 <gouthamr> vhari++ - we can publicize the bugsquash plans a bit more, via openstack-discuss, etc
15:25:29 <vhari> fix proposed ..
15:25:42 <vhari> gouthamr, kk sounds good
15:26:05 <vhari> ^^ bug fix proposed .. let me know if we need to discuss
15:26:26 <vhari> otherwise moving on to the next
15:26:29 <dviroel> re bug 1902854, NetApp driver provide a few more information wrt migration progress
15:26:30 <openstack> bug 1902854 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "migration get progress missing fields" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1902854 - Assigned to Maurice Escher (maurice-escher)
15:27:08 <gouthamr> the fix can be versioned
15:27:29 <gouthamr> and made consistent
15:27:44 <dviroel> yep
15:28:22 <gouthamr> the problem here was we couldn't come up with a common set of things that we could retrieve from the backends (or the data service operations)
15:28:28 * carthaca sneaks in
15:28:38 <gouthamr> so we ended up with just "total_progress" and "task_state"
15:28:45 * gouthamr hey there carthaca
15:29:36 <carthaca> just noticed that the meeting is 1 hour earlier for me due to daylight saving time change
15:29:44 <gouthamr> if we always think migration is a cloud/system admin level task, we can supply a blob of additional information (just like the scheduler-stats/pools API)
15:31:01 <gouthamr> carthaca: oh! yes - i just remember this slot as 1500 UTC and convert that every now and then :P
15:31:20 <vhari> :D glad you made it carthaca
15:31:50 <carthaca> thanks to openstack bot, it highlighted my name
15:31:56 <gouthamr> carthaca: good chance you're not alone though - been missing or making it late to meetings this week ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
15:32:09 <gouthamr> openstack: good bot
15:33:00 <gouthamr> we can take thoughts on bug 1902854 to review, if folks need some time to think about it
15:33:01 <openstack> bug 1902854 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "migration get progress missing fields" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1902854 - Assigned to Maurice Escher (maurice-escher)
15:33:16 <dviroel> gouthamr: +1 for a blob of additional/vendor-specific information
15:33:53 <vhari> gouthamr, sounds good .. so next up for triage
15:33:57 <gouthamr> lets decide if the bug is valid, low/medium/high and set a timeline
15:35:09 <gouthamr> carthaca: it sounds like a medium to me - the inconvenience is that you'll have to parse the logs to get this information today?
15:36:38 * gouthamr looks like "estimated_completion_time" isn't logged too
15:37:05 <carthaca> I would have to logon to the back end
15:37:43 <gouthamr> yeah we should avoid that - i think this is reasonable to include in a blob that automation can choose to ignore
15:39:03 <gouthamr> any disagreements there? lets mark this medium, and i'll take that comment ^ to review
15:39:28 <gouthamr> lets target this to wallaby-2 for now
15:39:49 <vhari> done ..
15:39:52 <vhari> next up
15:39:54 <vhari> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1901189
15:39:55 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1901189 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "netapp kerberos-realm-create api changed" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Felipe Rodrigues (felipefutty)
15:40:43 <gouthamr> 8.3 is old :) you'd hope noone is running it?
15:41:11 <dviroel> felipe_rodrigues: were you able reproduce it?
15:41:23 <felipe_rodrigues> Yeap
15:41:35 <felipe_rodrigues> I already fixed it
15:41:45 <dviroel> \o/
15:41:51 <vhari> felipe_rodrigues++
15:41:51 <felipe_rodrigues> I will send a patch fix soon
15:41:54 <gouthamr> so this is broken for any netapp user that chooses to use kerberos, since 8.3 is the minimum ONTAP version supported by the manila driver iirc?
15:42:13 <dviroel> gouthamr: yes
15:42:17 <felipe_rodrigues> yes
15:42:24 <gouthamr> good stuff felipe_rodrigues! can you determine the bug prio?
15:43:04 <dviroel> since this isn't working at all, i would say that is a medium, even being driver specific
15:43:06 <felipe_rodrigues> low
15:43:25 <felipe_rodrigues> can be medium as well
15:43:50 <gouthamr> okay, that's a decent classification - we can treat this as a day-0 bug, and hopefully the fix can be backported to older supported releases
15:44:24 <felipe_rodrigues> +1
15:44:26 <dviroel> we might have it by wallaby-1 then
15:44:50 <gouthamr> good stuff
15:44:52 <vhari> we can set it to wallaby-1 and revisit later
15:45:23 <vhari> moving on
15:45:26 <vhari> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1900755
15:45:27 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1900755 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "cifs ad without machine account creation permissions" [Undecided,New]
15:45:53 <vhari> last bug to triage for today :)
15:46:18 <gouthamr> carthaca++ for filing all these bugs and providing great detail in them
15:46:50 <gouthamr> we discussed this one during the "Operational Concerns for OpenStack Manila" forum session
15:47:41 <gouthamr> must be a simple bug fix on the driver side, but definitely impactful to end users
15:47:53 <gouthamr> any netapp folks want to pick this one up?
15:48:29 <dviroel> sure
15:48:47 <carthaca> I just created a bug for this certain cifs error, but I have endless variations what can go wrong and is only visible in the log
15:49:07 <gouthamr> ah
15:49:09 <carthaca> So ideally I'm hoping for a more general solution
15:50:19 <gouthamr> http://paste.openstack.org/show/799227/ looks like missing rbac for the driver's "netapp_login" user?
15:51:05 * gouthamr Reason - 13001, my old friend
15:51:15 <dviroel> haha
15:52:31 <gouthamr> since the netapp folks are just taking a look at this, we'll take discussion for a generic solution to the bug or the review
15:52:44 <gouthamr> is this one medium/wallaby-1 as well?
15:53:26 <vhari> gouthamr, aye aye ..
15:53:35 <vhari> that's a wrap for bugs today ..
15:53:46 <vhari> thanks all for pitching in :D
15:53:48 <dviroel> already assigned myself to this last one
15:54:07 <vhari> dviroel++
15:54:11 <carthaca> dviroel ++
15:54:12 <gouthamr> great thank you vkmc, dviroel, carthaca
15:54:22 <gouthamr> #topic Open Discussion
15:55:36 <gouthamr> since we have the holiday season coming upon us, if you are working on something and need help, please don't hesitate to seek help!
15:56:26 <gouthamr> we may also be canceling a bunch of meetings during the holidays
15:56:46 <gouthamr> everyone def needs some downtime for all that 2020 is throwing at us :)
15:57:37 <dviroel> for sure
15:58:20 <gouthamr> alright everyone, see you all in #openstack-manila and elsewhere - stay safe!
15:58:29 <gouthamr> #endmeeting