15:00:45 <vkmc> #startmeeting manila
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15:00:49 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'manila'
15:00:50 <carloss> o/
15:00:52 <ecsantos> o/
15:00:56 <tbarron> hi
15:01:14 <dviroel|brb> hi
15:01:19 <vkmc> courtesy ping: ganso dviroel carloss tbarron felipe_rodrigues esantos vhari
15:01:29 <vkmc> (not sure if this list is updated, I'll just believe it is)
15:01:40 <felipe_rodrigues> hi
15:01:57 <vhari> o/
15:02:01 <maaritamm> o/
15:02:09 <kiwi_36> o/
15:02:17 <vkmc> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings
15:02:36 <vkmc> #topic announcements
15:03:16 <carthaca> Hi
15:03:21 <vkmc> hi everyone :)
15:03:36 <vkmc> I don't have any specific announcement to bring up
15:03:40 <vkmc> last week was the PTG
15:04:03 <vkmc> (which we will cover shortly)
15:04:19 <vkmc> we are officially in the week 3 of the xena release
15:04:30 <vkmc> #link https://releases.openstack.org/xena/schedule.html
15:04:58 <vkmc> leaving you the link to the schedule in case you want to take a peak on important dates
15:05:16 <vkmc> next milestone is the week of may 24th
15:05:19 <vkmc> so, one month from now
15:05:30 <vkmc> which seems really fast
15:05:39 <vkmc> so worth mentioning it
15:05:45 <vkmc> any comment or question on this?
15:06:53 * vkmc stares at the screen for a couple of seconds
15:07:06 * vhari stares back :)
15:07:28 <vkmc> ok :)
15:07:33 <vkmc> I'll take that as a no
15:07:43 <vkmc> so, next topic
15:07:57 <vkmc> #topic PTG recap
15:08:18 <vkmc> as mentioned, last week was the PTG week
15:08:24 <vkmc> lots of good sessions, as usual
15:08:40 <vkmc> a big shout out to our PTL for the great work on organizing leading us through this event
15:08:51 <vkmc> organizing and leading*
15:09:04 <tbarron> gouthamr++
15:09:22 <vkmc> if you missed a session, you can watch the recording on our youtube channel
15:09:23 <carloss> gouthamr++
15:09:23 <vhari> gouthamr++
15:09:35 <maaritamm> gouthamr++
15:09:48 <kiwi_36> gouthamr++
15:09:54 <vkmc> #link https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCnLeIR8V1Fl7ym1c7H3e0A/playlists
15:10:04 <vkmc> there is a playlist there for the xena ptg
15:10:10 <vkmc> that gouthamr crafted for us
15:10:22 <vkmc> (which is a lot of work, so, thanks so much gouthamr again for this)
15:10:35 <vkmc> gouthamr++
15:10:46 <vkmc> also, you can check the etherpads
15:11:50 <vkmc> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/xena-ptg-manila
15:12:28 <vkmc> there are a lot of notes for each of the topics discussed that help to understand stuff :)
15:12:49 <vkmc> in any case, next week we will send a summary to the openstack-discuss mailing list
15:12:54 <ecsantos> gouthamr++
15:13:09 <vkmc> with the highlights of this ptg
15:13:14 <vkmc> so, stay tuned!
15:13:30 <vkmc> last but not least
15:13:43 <vkmc> thanks *everyone* for joining and participating actively from last week ptg
15:13:55 <vkmc> our meetings are awesome thanks to your contributions
15:14:22 * vkmc sends karma points to all the zorillas
15:14:58 <vkmc> all right
15:15:07 <vkmc> any comment or question on the ptg?
15:15:12 <vhari> vkmc++
15:16:14 <vkmc> very well
15:16:24 <vkmc> let's jump to next topic...
15:16:44 <vkmc> #topic bug triage (vhari)
15:16:59 <vkmc> I heard that bugs have been piling up
15:17:01 <vkmc> is that true vhari?
15:17:05 * vhari has an itty bitty list of bugs to triage .. rolling up sleeves!
15:17:25 <vhari> vkmc,  'was' true due to weeks of skips and other events
15:17:47 <vhari> BUT we are down 6 thanks to everyone who pitched in with fixes in progress
15:17:47 * vkmc puts face in hands
15:17:56 <vhari> or submitted
15:18:08 <vkmc> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new
15:18:11 <vhari> so ready to dive in with the shorter list now
15:18:25 <vhari> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1925486
15:18:25 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1925486 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Share replica create API does not allow to specify share network" [Undecided,New]
15:18:37 <vhari> most of these bugs need minor triage ..
15:18:45 * vkmc looks
15:19:21 <vkmc> oki, this one seems have been reported by a long dated friend of us
15:19:28 <vkmc> carthaca, ^
15:19:41 <carthaca> yep
15:20:01 <vkmc> so I don't have history on why that parameter was removed
15:20:07 <vkmc> but seems like a big change in the api
15:20:21 <carloss> that's pretty useful I'd say
15:20:34 <carloss> but we would only be able to be switching subnets, right?
15:20:37 <carthaca> it was still experimental at that time, I think
15:20:44 <vkmc> ahh
15:22:14 <vkmc> so... first we would need to understand why it was dropped
15:22:17 <carthaca> Imho it can be a whole new network. The target replica is on a new share server anyhow by definition because it is located on a different back end
15:23:41 <carloss> yeah, makes sense... iirc, we'd need to require that both current and new share networks to contain a subnet in the same az
15:24:12 <carloss> if that is the case...
15:25:26 <carloss> so if it was dropped only because we weren't supporting replication with dhss=true as the bug says, I guess we could bring it back again
15:26:05 <vkmc> ok
15:26:08 <carloss> we'll only need to take a look in some validations andsome stuff to change in the APIs
15:26:31 <vkmc> so it's feasible now
15:26:48 <carloss> yeah, seems to be :)
15:27:15 <vkmc> carthaca, were you planning to work on it or you just wanted to call it out as a requirement?
15:28:17 <carthaca> I plan to work on it
15:28:19 <carthaca> not sure if I will make it
15:28:32 <vkmc> let's triage this one as confirmed and medium priority
15:28:37 <vkmc> carthaca, cool
15:28:38 <carloss> carthaca ++ :)
15:28:45 <vkmc> carthaca++
15:29:01 <vkmc> we can set the milestone to xena-2 and reschedule later, if that works for you
15:29:50 <vhari> xena-2 it is ..
15:29:52 <vkmc> ok, I set up those values
15:30:06 <vhari> next up #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1925475
15:30:06 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1925475 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Manila API fails to handle policy issue logging when journal is used" [Undecided,New]
15:30:34 <vkmc> looking
15:30:42 <vkmc> seems related to the latest introduced policy changes
15:31:59 <vkmc> so, we need to try to reproduce this one
15:32:41 <vkmc> I think noonedeadpunk mentioned about this one last week on the manila channel
15:32:54 <vkmc> I'll follow steps to try to reproduce and will triage this one
15:33:01 <vkmc> after this meeting
15:33:19 <vkmc> (unless someone did this and have a confirmation already)
15:33:29 <vkmc> (I don't think I'll be that lucky)
15:33:45 <vhari> :) not today vkmc
15:33:49 <vkmc> xD
15:33:50 <vkmc> ok
15:34:11 <vkmc> so, let's jump to the next bug, I'll report my findings on the openstack-manila channel after this meeting
15:34:24 <vhari> k, vkmc++
15:34:28 <vhari> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1925332
15:34:28 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1925332 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "CephFS doesn't support subvolume group snapshots" [Undecided,New]
15:34:39 <vkmc> this one is easy
15:34:45 <vkmc> easy to triage at least
15:35:17 <vkmc> setting this one to confirmed, medium priority
15:35:20 <vkmc> I'll be working on this one
15:35:31 <vkmc> and let's targed to xena-1
15:35:38 <vkmc> done
15:35:49 <vhari> cool .. next
15:35:51 <vhari> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1925153
15:35:53 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1925153 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "netapp dr replica export location missing" [Medium,Confirmed]
15:36:07 <vkmc> another one from carthaca
15:36:16 <vkmc> seems is partially triaged
15:36:40 <vkmc> carthaca, carloss, thoughts? ^
15:36:45 <carthaca> this is more a feature request - not sure
15:37:10 <carthaca> I wanted some opinions if this may be valid to add
15:38:12 <carloss> yeah, I agree that it sounds more like a feature request
15:39:32 <dviroel> if you want an export location, you will probably want to mount as readable
15:39:40 <vkmc> so I read it's not strictly related to the netapp driver
15:39:57 <dviroel> in this case, it will be a readable replica, right?
15:40:30 <carloss> if people want to read this,  it sounds more like readable replicas...
15:40:40 <carthaca> @vkmc: no this could affect all driver, but I only have experience with netapp
15:41:31 <carloss> but as per the bug report, seems that they don't want to read what's in the shares or mount them... is just something people would use to be one step ahead in case they need to promote the replica
15:41:33 <dviroel> i see now
15:41:45 <dviroel> yep
15:41:46 <carthaca> I also thought, may this will be irrelevant soon and just go ahead and implement readable replicas for netapp, which seems straightforward
15:42:24 <carthaca> *maybe
15:43:59 <carthaca> on the other hand, drivers that cannot easily offer readable replicas and have dr replicas only may still want to add this
15:45:40 <carloss> yeah
15:46:55 <vkmc> ok, so... being a feature request
15:47:13 <dviroel> i would say that is a feature request, yes
15:47:27 <carloss> yeah...
15:47:34 <vkmc> and not being something specific to one driver
15:47:43 <vkmc> but rather, a new functionality offered by manila
15:47:48 <vkmc> would it make sense to create a spec?
15:48:01 <vkmc> maybe outline the problem with a bit of more detail
15:48:08 <vkmc> and try to brainstorm on how this can be addressed
15:48:13 <dviroel> +1
15:48:44 <dviroel> we need to discuss if will not confuse users, that will see an export location, but won't be able to mount, something like that
15:49:14 <dviroel> can be a netapp feature only too, if readable replicas fulfil carthaca needs
15:49:29 <vkmc> yep
15:49:51 <carloss> +1
15:49:53 <vkmc> either a spec or a thread on the mailing list
15:49:59 <vkmc> I guess we need a bit more of discussion
15:50:02 <vkmc> or irc itself
15:50:16 <vhari> vkmc, cool   so if no other thoughts on this bug  .. it's  a wrap for bugs today
15:50:29 <vkmc> oki, thanks vhari
15:50:35 <dviroel> vhari++
15:50:48 <vhari> vkmc, yw, thanks all for pitching in
15:50:53 <carloss> vhari ++
15:50:56 <vkmc> ok folks, we have 10 more minutes
15:51:00 <vkmc> vhari++
15:51:08 <vkmc> so let's open up for an open discussion now
15:51:12 <vkmc> #topic open discussion
15:51:54 <vkmc> all right
15:52:05 <vkmc> any other topic you want to bring up for today?
15:53:20 <vkmc> ok
15:53:26 <vkmc> I do have one last thing
15:53:28 <vkmc> and is
15:53:53 <vkmc> check out review queues :D
15:54:10 <vkmc> there are several easy patch sets that are almost ready to get merged
15:54:25 <vkmc> that could use your feedback
15:54:43 <vkmc> I have been checking python-manilaclient (several patches on the osc)
15:54:45 <vkmc> manila-ui
15:55:22 <vkmc> so... if you have some cycles, it will be appreciated
15:55:34 <vkmc> and with that
15:55:37 <vkmc> we can close for today
15:55:43 <vkmc> you get 5min back
15:55:45 <vkmc> thanks everyone!
15:56:02 <vhari> vkmc++
15:56:03 <vkmc> o/
15:56:08 <vkmc> #endmeeting