15:00:26 <carloss> #startmeeting manila
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15:00:26 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'manila'
15:00:45 <dviroel> o/
15:01:01 <ashrodri> \o/
15:01:08 <carloss> welcome back ashrodri :D
15:01:21 <haixin> O/
15:01:37 <carloss> courtesy ping: vkmc vhari gouthamr
15:01:42 <vhari> hi
15:03:01 <gouthamr> o/
15:03:09 <gouthamr> \o/
15:04:07 <nahimsouza[m]> hi
15:04:47 <carloss> hello everyone :D
15:05:11 <carloss> glad to see you here today
15:05:28 <carloss> we have plenty on the agenda for today, so let's get started
15:05:37 <carloss> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting
15:05:49 <carthaca> hi
15:05:54 <carloss> o/ carthaca
15:06:07 <caiquemello[m]> o/
15:06:15 <HelenaDantas[m]> o/
15:06:35 <carloss> #topic Announcements
15:06:46 <carloss> Schedule and Deadlines:
15:06:53 <carloss> #link https://releases.openstack.org/antelope/schedule.html
15:07:20 <carloss> we're on our way to m-2
15:07:38 <vkmc> o/
15:07:57 <renanv> o/
15:08:08 <carloss> you will notice that manila trackers aren't there yet
15:08:09 <carloss> but
15:08:21 <carloss> I had a patch proposed for that purpose weeks ago:
15:08:21 <lucasmoliveira059> \o
15:08:23 <carloss> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/864313
15:08:56 <carloss> I'd say one way to make some noise is to have some zorillas voting there
15:09:57 <carloss> so the predicted date for spec freeze is supposed to be in 12 days, but as we didn't merge that into the official schedule and there are still some pending reviews, I'd say we could become more flexible with it
15:10:10 <carloss> and also for another reason: this is a month that lots of people get holidays and PTO
15:11:56 <carloss> other than that, I'd say the dates would follow the same
15:12:06 <carloss> we could try to buy one more week in the official schedule for the specs
15:13:08 <carloss> and the second announcement is about the RBAC hackathon :D
15:13:19 <carloss> that we needed to postpone before
15:13:24 <carloss> but, now we have new dates!
15:13:38 <carloss> S-RBAC test Hack-a-thon (vhari/lkuchlan)
15:14:07 <gouthamr> looks like vhari is having irc troubles
15:14:11 <carloss> yep :D
15:14:14 <carloss> I can cover that ;)
15:14:22 <gouthamr> ++
15:14:27 <vhari> gouthamr, ack
15:14:35 <vhari> gouthamr, intermittent network issues today :)
15:15:02 <carloss> the new dates are supposed to be next week - (Dec 7th to Dec 9th)
15:16:16 <carloss> so we'd have a call to kick off on Wed, use the slot of this meeting as a mid-term checkpoint and maybe have another call on Friday, to close the event
15:16:37 <carloss> Liron will be sending the details on the mailing list in the beginning of the next week
15:17:01 <carloss> hackathons with this group are usually pretty fun and you get a chance to learn by doing and also interacting with all the Zorillas
15:17:45 <carloss> they are also good for who is starting to understand better manila's codebase - so highly recommended to sharpen your skills and have some fun
15:19:06 <carloss> so wait for the details on the openstack-discuss mailing list, and let's have some fun next week!
15:19:07 <gouthamr> and like usual, there are excellent code examples this time too
15:19:32 <gouthamr> there’s a lot of small RBAC patches that have showed up, mostly props to lkuchlan++
15:20:20 <carloss> gouthamr: great point :D
15:20:24 <carloss> lkuchlan++
15:20:28 <carloss> https://tree.taiga.io/project/silvacarloss-manila-tempest-plugin-rbac/kanban - this is the kanban board we intend to use. If you can't access it, please ping me and I can grant you access!
15:21:30 <carloss> that's all I had for $topic
15:21:37 <carloss> is there something you'd like to share with us today?
15:23:39 <carloss> taking silence as no... let's continue with our agenda
15:23:46 <carloss> #topic CI Status
15:24:18 <carloss> so in previous meetings you might have seen me talking about the community-wide goal to migrate CI images to use ubuntu jammy
15:24:39 <carloss> https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/selected/migrate-ci-jobs-to-ubuntu-jammy.html
15:24:53 <carloss> and there was a target-date to switch the images: m-1
15:25:26 <carloss> I had proposed a patch to see if our jobs were going to be okay:
15:25:29 <carloss> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/861635
15:25:38 <carloss> as you can see, they were not
15:25:38 <carloss> :D
15:25:56 <carloss> but we didn't have time to check the failures and fix them on time
15:26:17 <carloss> and as we got to m-1, the image officially changed, making our jobs to fail!
15:26:39 <carloss> it was impacting CI, so we decided to make the images use the previous ubuntu version for now
15:26:42 <carloss> that's a band-aid
15:27:19 <carloss> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-tempest-plugin/+/865185
15:28:04 <carloss> our jobs are using ubuntu 20 now, but we *need* to make the changes to migrate it to 22
15:28:13 <carloss> the only voting job that is failing is LVM
15:28:27 <carloss> I have opened bugs against all of the drivers failing, see:
15:28:30 <carloss> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bugs?field.tag=migrate-to-jammy
15:28:46 * carloss added the migrate-to-jammy tag to all so it's easy to filter and check on status
15:30:09 <carloss> LVM as I said is more critical and it's an issue we already saw in the FIPS lvm job in the past: it fails to install quagga
15:30:29 <carloss> the idea is that it should be replaced by FRR, as I state in the bug
15:30:46 <gouthamr> thanks for pushing on this effort carloss! With the number of jobs we run, it’s a huge pain moving these along as the infra changes
15:32:00 <carloss> no problem gouthamr :D
15:32:50 <carloss> the thing is: we have 4 jobs to fix... the bugs I reported contain the current issues the jobs are facing, but we don't know if something will fail other than the issues we are catching
15:33:07 <carloss> not trying to discourage anyone, but as one issue is fixed, another one might show up
15:33:50 <carloss> and I'm saying I'm not trying to discourage anyone? well, I believe this is a good thing to be shared with the community
15:33:56 <carloss> the ownership of these bugs I mean
15:34:17 <carloss> the help there would be much appreciated and the bulk of the work would not be in only one of us
15:35:03 <carloss> so the idea is not to have one person working on all of the bugs, but share the effort with other maintainers... it's also a good opportunity and you would have some help as you need
15:35:45 <carloss> so, is there someone here that would like to volunteer on getting any of these bugs to work on?
15:36:41 <gouthamr> +1; I can take a look at the ceph jobs
15:36:50 <carloss> and for some triaging now, I believe the priorities for the bugs should differ a bit: LVM, as is a voting job, the priority should be High and for the other two, it could be Medium
15:37:03 <carloss> gouthamr++ thanks!
15:37:11 <gouthamr> i think you got a start already, but the ceph nfs job has the same issue with quagga
15:37:58 <carloss> so I believe I'm halfway through with the glusterfs job, I have tentative fix and yet it fails :|
15:38:16 <carloss> oh, yes gouthamr - the issue with frr would possibly address the LVM job as well
15:40:38 <carloss> okay, I can own the glusterfs
15:40:45 <carloss> both native and nfs
15:40:56 <carloss> if you'd like to contribute, please let us know
15:41:31 <carloss> jumping to the next topic:
15:41:35 <carloss> #topic Review Focus
15:42:21 <carloss> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-antelope-review-focus
15:42:49 <carloss> what I'd say our eyes should be focused atm is kpdev's spec proposal:
15:43:03 <carloss> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/330306
15:43:11 <carloss> I had a few interactions, and I see haixin had some too
15:43:12 <carloss> haixin++
15:43:34 <carloss> (felipe_rodriguess++)
15:43:42 <carloss> as he also had some reviews there
15:45:12 <carloss> is there something else you'd like to shed some light on?
15:45:53 <carloss> or better, to get some eyes on
15:46:09 <kpdev> thanks carloss
15:46:24 <kpdev> expecting more reviews on this spec
15:46:42 <carloss> gouthamr: could you please take a look when you have some time? :)
15:48:09 * carloss jumping to the next topic :p
15:48:14 <carloss> #topic Bug Triage (vhari)
15:48:20 <carloss> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug Triage etherpad)
15:48:28 <vhari> ty carloss ..
15:48:40 <carloss> vhari: it's been a long time since we don't have the time to do some bug triaging :D
15:48:52 <vhari> looking for initial triage of some old bugs in the queue
15:48:54 <vhari> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1996793
15:49:25 <vhari> carloss, ack .. will get a jump of a few today
15:50:58 <carloss> interesting one vhari
15:51:16 <gouthamr> interesting, I think we memoize the mon IPs, they want a way to invalidate this without restarting the service
15:52:06 <gouthamr> decent ask; we wanted to avoid the round trips to storage for such infrequently changing data
15:53:11 <gouthamr> I wonder if we can use sighup as a way to do this
15:53:46 <gouthamr> carloss vhari this is a good getting started bug with the ceph driver imo
15:54:28 <vhari> gouthamr, agreed
15:54:32 <carloss> ++
15:54:45 <carloss> I'd like to take this one :)
15:54:56 <gouthamr> oh wait, I’m not thinking about old exports with that thought
15:55:12 <gouthamr> this is probably where we can trigger ensure shares
15:55:21 <gouthamr> if we detect the change
15:57:09 <carloss> agreed
15:57:19 <carloss> in terms of timeline, i'd say m-3 as we are too close to m1
15:57:27 <carloss> and medium prio
15:57:38 <carloss> even though if shares get inacessible, this might be high
15:58:34 <carloss> s/even though/though
15:59:33 * carloss checks time
15:59:48 <carloss> we've one minute left
16:00:08 <carloss> sorry for leaving a small amount of time for bug triaging vhari
16:00:11 <vhari> carloss, quick  wrap for bugs :)
16:00:32 <carloss> thank you for joining today's meeting, zorillas!
16:00:36 <carloss> see you on #openstack-manila
16:00:41 <carloss> #endmeeting