15:00:26 <carloss> #startmeeting manila 15:00:26 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Thu May 18 15:00:26 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carloss. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:26 <opendevmeet> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:26 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'manila' 15:00:50 <gouthamr> o/ 15:00:58 <lucasmoliveira059> \o 15:01:05 <carloss> courtesy ping: vkmc dviroel vhari carthaca 15:01:49 <nahimsouza> o/ 15:02:15 <vhari> o/ 15:02:20 <thiagoalvoravel> o/ 15:02:34 <haixin> O/ 15:02:36 <luizsantos[m]> o/ 15:03:14 <MatheusAndrade[m]> o/ 15:04:21 <carloss> hello everyone and welcome! :) 15:04:29 <caiquemello[m]> hello 15:04:32 <carloss> today's meeting agenda: 15:04:35 <carloss> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting 15:05:40 <carloss> btw, a reminder: I see there are many familiar names in this meeting 15:06:02 <carloss> and if you would like to receive a courtesy ping at the beginning of this meeting, you can simply add your name to the courtesy ping list 15:06:24 <carloss> in the link I just shared. I think everyone with a launchpad account is free to edit the page 15:06:30 <dviroel> o/ 15:06:53 <carloss> and also, if you would like, you are free (and encouraged) to propose topics to this meeting agenda :) 15:06:59 <helenadantas[m]> o/ 15:07:24 <carloss> let's start with the first topic 15:07:28 <carloss> #topic Announcements 15:07:36 <carloss> Schedule and Deadlines: 15:07:42 <carloss> #link https://releases.openstack.org/bobcat/schedule.html 15:08:43 <carloss> we're 1 week past m-1, and next week is our hack-a-ton (which we will talk more in a few) 15:10:41 <carloss> spec freeze is 1 month away basically, but we need to consider that some reviewers or spec authors might be attending to the OIS 15:10:50 <carloss> and might not be able to give it time during that week 15:10:55 <carloss> so reviews are highly encouraged 15:11:59 <carloss> second announcement: 15:12:00 <carloss> Next week's hackathon 15:12:43 <carloss> it has proven to be very productive and fun in the past 15:13:04 <carloss> last time, we had a 3 days format (started on Wed and finished on Friday iirc) 15:13:43 <carloss> time was good, but I feel we could use one extra day this time, so my suggestion would be holding it from Tuesday to Friday 15:14:24 <carloss> on Tuesday, we can hold a meeting to start it and assign tasks, so it would be 15 UTC 15:14:56 <carloss> we can use next week's Thursday meeting as a checkpoint and finish on Friday 15:15:12 <carloss> do you have other suggestions wrt dates or time? 15:16:39 <gouthamr> ++ works for me 15:17:16 <nahimsouza> sounds good 15:17:25 <caiquemello[m]> ++ 15:18:46 <carloss> cool, as for themes, we have a few ideas but I would also like to hear from you 15:20:29 <carloss> so, two main ideas so far: 15:20:29 <carloss> OSC functional tests (covering non-happy paths, as back then, covered only happy paths and said we'd circle back to this in the future) 15:20:29 <carloss> getting to close some bugs (one of vhari's suggestion) 15:20:46 <carloss> s/suggestion/suggestions 15:21:15 <carloss> I'd be open to hear some ideas, and this time I thought about hearing more from the community and see what you would be happy to work on 15:24:10 <gouthamr> we could split off into groups and hack on different things --- i don't know what all, but if there isn't one giant set of tasks we need to target, we could target several small things 15:25:48 <gouthamr> even non-glamorous things like addressing tech debt (keystoneauth in python-manilaclient), cleaning out our install-guide (do those instructions still work?), automating our config reference (it's been broken for a few years now) 15:27:11 <carloss> that sounds like a great idea 15:28:00 <carloss> covering missing docs to the newly added features is also a good task possibly :) 15:28:45 <carloss> okay, so let's go for the multiple options choice, and we can divide it into small teams or individuals? 15:28:57 <carloss> that way we can tackle several different tech debt areas 15:31:30 <gouthamr> i suggest an etherpad to pool topics 15:31:59 <gouthamr> and form groups 15:32:21 <carloss> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/zorilla-bobcat-hackathon 15:32:27 <carloss> I'll populate :) 15:32:34 <caiquemello[m]> Work in small teams seems to be better and each team can have a topic as goutham suggested 15:34:26 <carloss> thanks for adding stuff there, gouthamr 15:34:49 <carloss> caiquemello[m]: thanks! 15:35:04 <carloss> okay, that's all I had for announcements. I'll send an email to openstack-discuss later 15:35:12 <carloss> to communicate the next week's event 15:35:20 <carloss> is there an announcement you would like to share? 15:36:43 <gouthamr> one minor thing 15:37:29 <gouthamr> we were holding off on the m-1 release of python-manilaclient: 15:37:51 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/882596 (Release python-manilaclient for Bobcat-1 milestone) 15:39:01 <gouthamr> mainly waiting on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-manilaclient/+/869709 -- is felipe_rodrigues unavailable? 15:39:46 <kpdev> I want to add this as well https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-manilaclient/+/855690 15:40:45 <gouthamr> nice thanks for the callout kpdev 15:41:28 <carloss> kpdev: sure - thanks, I'll take a look 15:43:03 <carloss> thanks for bringing it up gouthamr 15:43:46 <carloss> I think the comments are minor - in case felipe is not around, maybe we can have another netapper taking a look at them? 15:44:07 <carloss> nahimsouza caiquemello[m] - is there someone available to take a look at this? 15:44:12 <caiquemello[m]> We can take a look 15:44:21 <carloss> ack, thanks caiquemello[m] 15:44:31 <caiquemello[m]> thks 15:45:05 <carloss> thanks gouthamr for bringing this up :) 15:45:13 <carloss> next topic: 15:45:16 <gouthamr> you're welcome... in that vein, i'm looking to defer the deprecation of the "manila" client to after this m-1 release: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-manilaclient/+/879130 - after we merge this, we'll be releasing this with a major version bump; 15:45:47 <gouthamr> (am yet to push up changes addressing carthaca's suggestion at the ptg) ^ 15:45:59 <carloss> gouthamr++ 15:46:06 <gouthamr> that's all for $topic; i'll shut up now :) 15:47:07 <carloss> nah, you're free to talk gouthamr :p 15:47:21 <carloss> #topic Review focus 15:47:34 <carloss> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-bobcat-review-focus (Bobcat review focus etherpad) 15:47:49 <carloss> so I have changed few things in the etherpad and structurized it a bit 15:48:13 <carloss> at the top we have the specs now and the features to review are right after that 15:48:23 <carloss> reviews are very welcome as I said 15:48:58 <carloss> so if there's a change you would like to have some reviews, please add it to the focus etherpad 15:49:18 <kpdev> hi all, share backup is pending for long time, so need review on it. 15:49:59 <gouthamr> kpdev: o/ any chance you'd consider a collab review for that? 15:50:17 <kpdev> for share backup ? 15:50:19 <gouthamr> yes 15:50:22 <kpdev> yes possible next week 15:50:55 <gouthamr> ah, probably not the next week because of the hackathon 15:51:08 <kpdev> ok 15:51:35 * gouthamr is out the week after, bummer.. 15:51:51 <kpdev> I have other topics which are already reviewed +1/+2, but then no review after rebase, would be good to get them merged :) 15:54:00 <carloss> kpdev: are changes in the review etherpad too? 15:54:19 <kpdev> yes, updated https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-bobcat-review-focus 15:55:18 <carloss> ack, thanks for adding - will take a look 15:56:18 <gouthamr> throwing this: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/880852 in the etherpad now 15:56:52 <gouthamr> but heads up, would need a deeper look from folks at netapp ^ 15:57:26 <carloss> ty gouthamr 15:57:33 <carloss> just tagged some netappers in the etherpad 15:57:38 <carloss> oops, the change* 15:57:56 * carloss is thinking too much about etherpads lately 15:59:10 <gouthamr> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Etherpads 15:59:26 <gouthamr> ^ reminder we have this for keeping ourselves sane :D 15:59:35 <carloss> oh, true :D 16:00:44 <carloss> I should add a couple of etherpads there 16:00:52 <carloss> so we're at the top of the hour 16:01:21 <carloss> vhari: sorry for not having time for bug triaging :/ 16:01:34 <carloss> thank you for joining today's meeting 16:01:40 <carloss> let's continue chatting in #openstack-manila 16:01:43 <carloss> #endmeeting