15:00:13 <carloss> #startmeeting manila
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15:00:13 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'manila'
15:00:31 <gouthamr> o/
15:00:31 <carloss> courtesy ping: vkmc dviroel vhari gouthamr carthaca msaravan pulluri
15:00:40 <carthaca> hi
15:01:02 <msaravan> hi
15:01:10 <Saikumar> o/
15:01:12 <haixin> o/
15:01:22 <gireesh> o/
15:01:47 <vhari_> o/
15:03:46 <carloss> hello everyone
15:03:51 <carloss> glad to be back :D
15:04:53 <carloss> let's get started with today's meeting agenda:
15:04:55 <carloss> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting
15:06:38 * carloss got distracted for a bit, sorry
15:06:42 <carloss> #topic Announcements
15:07:38 <carloss> #link https://releases.openstack.org/caracal/schedule.html
15:07:50 <carloss> this is m-1 week
15:08:31 <carloss> if you are targeting a fix for this milestone and would like some attention between today and tomorrow, please let us know
15:08:50 <carloss> I'll do some launchpad re-targeting on bugs soon, and I might have some questions around some bugs
15:09:35 <carloss> not much to add to this at this point
15:09:53 <carloss> one other thing I had: thanks ashrodri for running last week's meeting while I was afk
15:10:17 <carloss> not an announcement but just would like to say thanks
15:10:29 <carloss> I think that's all for $topic
15:10:35 <carloss> do you have an announcement to share with us today?
15:12:50 <carloss> taking silence as no...
15:12:58 <carloss> #topic Review Focus
15:13:08 <carloss> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-caracal-review-focus (Review Focus etherpad)
15:14:22 <carloss> thanks for creating the review focus etherpad
15:14:53 <carloss> added some more things and tried to split stuff into sessions, but I think it'd be better if we stick to the milestones format
15:14:59 <carloss> so I might rollback some of the changes
15:15:58 <carloss> at the moment, I'd say we could put some focus on the bugfixes and specs going on
15:16:17 <carloss> one spec would be:
15:16:39 <carloss> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/898999 (Add spec for share encryption)
15:16:45 <carloss> which we discussed at the PTG
15:16:56 <carloss> so would be nice to have some reviewers taking a look at it and sharing feedback
15:19:46 <carloss> is there another change you'd like to highlight now?
15:19:56 <carloss> also, please feel free to start adding the changes to the review focus etherpad
15:20:13 <carloss> it's a good place to request reviewers' attention
15:20:26 <gouthamr> do we have a spec merge deadline in mind?
15:21:25 <carloss> I'd say 1~2 weeks before m-2
15:21:33 <carloss> as it has been traditionally
15:21:52 <carloss> I have realized I didn't upload our manila-specific deadlines to the etherpad yet
15:22:00 <carloss> apologies for that, will do that soon :D
15:24:58 <gouthamr> we might need a breather this cycle
15:26:05 <gouthamr> caracal-2 milestone is Jan 12
15:26:56 <gouthamr> and we’d have a lot of folks for a couple of weeks out before that
15:27:15 * gouthamr can’t type :D
15:27:24 <gouthamr> but you get the point
15:28:24 <carloss> yeah, that makes a lot of sense
15:28:53 <carloss> indeed a lot of people will likely be offline for a couple of days and that could have a negative impact in the reviews and people writing specs
15:30:40 <gouthamr> maybe it’ll be fine to keep m2 as the deadline
15:32:17 <carloss> or the week after should be alright too: Jan 19th
15:33:22 <carloss> I'll propose the dates and ask for your feedback on it :D
15:35:01 <gouthamr> ++
15:35:46 <carloss> alright, next topic...
15:35:56 <carloss> #topic Bug Triage
15:36:07 <carloss> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug Triage etherpad)
15:36:17 <vhari_> ty carloss
15:36:19 <carloss> vhari_: o/ floor is yours
15:36:46 <vhari_> for this session we had one manila-ui bug
15:36:50 <vhari_> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila-ui/+bug/2043572
15:37:04 <vhari_> could like to do a brief triage today
15:38:14 <carloss> oh, 2023.1 branch...
15:40:51 <carloss> seems like easy to reproduce
15:40:55 <vhari_> has anyone else hit this issue?  should be an easy repro
15:41:03 <carloss> but if it happens often, it would be a medium
15:41:10 <vhari_> ack
15:41:16 <carloss> s/medium/medium-prio thing
15:41:22 <carloss> anyone interested on taking this bug?
15:41:31 <carloss> would likely be a good first task for an intern
15:43:45 <gouthamr> what is the “advanced” share type?
15:44:41 <gouthamr> likely there some problem with the UI parsing some specs here? Or Unicode characters?
15:45:29 <gouthamr> we should ask if they have access to the CLI, and if they can give us an output of “openstack share type list” as admin to check; and also horizon logs
15:46:36 <carloss> ++
15:46:49 <vhari_> ack gouthamr
15:47:19 <vhari_> so if no other discussions .. let's wrap bugs for today :)
15:47:30 <carloss> ack, thanks vhari_
15:47:42 <carloss> #topic Open Discussion
15:48:45 <carloss> gouthamr: good idea on having the stable branches reviews in a meeting
15:49:11 <carloss> initially, it'd happen during today's meeting
15:49:17 <carloss> but I was chatting with gouthamr earlier today and we could use some more time to prep
15:50:13 <gouthamr> yeah especially in light of some post PTG updates to stable branch maintenance
15:50:13 <gouthamr> #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/ZYAZG43BLJJVXCYZVPYQX5733BYDVVNL/ ('Unmaintained' branch update)
15:51:18 <gouthamr> #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/SYPTRTPUNWZFJNSL2PEYK4NX67RQ5LLW/ (Yoga - final release before branch becomes unmaintained)
15:52:47 <gouthamr> currently, we have too many stable branches open.. and the intent here is to transition a bunch of them to EOL and close them because of how degraded the maintenance on those branches has become
15:53:25 <gouthamr> i wrote a backport policy doc that needs some updates too:
15:53:36 <gouthamr> #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20230724-unmaintained-branches.html (TC resolution - 2023-07-24 Unmaintained status replaces Extended Maintenance)
15:55:33 <gouthamr> so some we'll have to do: merge all pending patches to train and prior; and indicate that we're okay to move those branches to EOL ---  which means, the branches will be deleted on git/gerrit, and no more changes can be proposed
15:56:13 <gouthamr> sorry, i meant to type: "ussuri" and prior
15:57:05 <gouthamr> we must make our own decision to keep victoria, wallaby, xena in "unmaintained" status -- i.e., open for bugfixes
15:57:21 <gouthamr> but with considerably less CI investment
15:58:27 <carloss> yeah, that makes a lot of sense... we can do some CI cleanup too after that
15:58:41 <gouthamr> i for one will work to keep stable/wallaby (and stable/xena) around for a little longer.... but i've no qualms with us transitioning everything older to EOL
15:59:00 <carloss> > but i've no qualms with us transitioning everything older to EOL
15:59:00 <carloss> ++
15:59:47 <gouthamr> but we can discuss here, or on the ML if anyone has different thoughts
16:00:10 <gouthamr> here = #openstack-manila ; it looks like we're out of time for this meeting :)
16:00:21 <carloss> yep
16:00:27 <carloss> thanks for bringing this up gouthamr :D
16:00:52 <carloss> let's continue in #openstack-manila in case someone would like to share some more thoughts
16:00:57 <carloss> thank you everyone for attending
16:01:07 <carloss> have a great day! :D
16:01:11 <carloss> #endmeeting