15:00:41 <carloss> #startmeeting manila 15:00:41 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Thu Nov 30 15:00:41 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carloss. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:41 <opendevmeet> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:41 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'manila' 15:00:46 <carthaca> hi 15:00:52 <jayaanand> hi 15:00:53 <gireesh> hi 15:01:02 <vhari> hi 15:01:02 <carloss> courtesy ping: vkmc dviroelvhari gouthamr msaravan pulluri 15:01:19 <carloss> s/dviroelvhari/dviroel 15:01:31 <msaravan> hi 15:02:28 <gouthamr> hello o/ 15:02:32 <haixin> o/ 15:02:54 <ashrodri> o/ 15:03:20 <dviroel> o/ 15:04:37 <carloss> o/ hello everyone and welcome! 15:05:00 <carloss> hope everyone that had the last week's break had time to recharge the batteries and have a good time :D 15:05:15 <carloss> today's meeting agenda: 15:05:17 <carloss> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting 15:07:03 <carloss> first topic: 15:07:05 <carloss> #topic Announcements 15:07:21 <carloss> Schedule and deadlines 15:07:23 <carloss> #link https://releases.openstack.org/caracal/schedule.html 15:09:44 <carloss> so we're just past m1 15:11:06 <carloss> and we have been working on the specs and reviews 15:11:16 <carloss> and getting started with the development of some features 15:12:29 <carloss> i am planning to do some launchpad cleanup today/tomorrow 15:12:53 <carloss> but I think our focus now should mostly be on the specs and the bugs and features we are planning to implement during this cycle 15:14:43 <carloss> and I have finally proposed the manila-specific deadlines to the schedule: 15:14:44 <carloss> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/902305 15:15:10 <carloss> I had this change ready in the beginning of the week but forgot to send it to gerrit 15:15:59 <carloss> some dates we don't have yet are: our traditional hackathon and bugsquash for this cycle 15:16:13 <carloss> the bugsquash I was thinking of doing it towards the end of the release 15:17:36 <carloss> do you have any thoughts on this? 15:18:08 <ashrodri> do we have a "theme" for the hackathon? 15:19:07 <carloss> I don't think so yet... we could focus on tech debt but that would make it three in a row, so maybe we could try something different 15:19:20 <vhari> based on bug stats, it's a good time for another review based bugsquash 15:19:59 <vhari> the bugsquash could be a combination of these themes 15:20:28 <carloss> ah, true vhari - maybe we can do the bugsquash earlier in the cycle? 15:20:36 <carloss> so bugs will be shipping within this release 15:20:50 <carloss> as in the previous one, most bugs ended up slipping to the next release 15:21:16 <vhari> that would be a good idea, there are 32 in-progress bugs 15:22:13 <vhari> 30% of which targeted caracal-1 15:23:32 <carloss> awesome! maybe right after m-2 is a good idea? 15:23:45 <carloss> ~Jan 15 15:23:48 <carloss> wdyt? 15:23:51 <vhari> +1 15:24:33 <carloss> ack, I'll add that to the releases patch I just sent 15:25:09 <vhari> awesome ty carloss :) 15:25:22 <carloss> alright, one more thing for announcements: 15:25:50 <carloss> np, ty vhari :D 15:26:22 <carloss> I'd like to cancel the next week's meeting, as I'll be unable to attend, and we'll have some people from the audience on PTO 15:26:52 <carloss> it feels like we've been cancelling a lot of meetings lately, but I think we're just unlucky with this year's calendar 15:26:58 * gouthamr late, but acks the jan 15th bugsquash idea 15:27:46 <vhari> carlos also a late cycle mini-bugsquash (time permitting) themed "stale bugs" would help reduce the backlog 15:28:47 <carloss> vhari++ yeah, we can do that too 15:29:27 <vhari> mini-bugsquash would include less bugs, and hence requires less capacity 15:30:20 <carloss> ++, maybe rc1 week or the week after? 15:30:27 <carloss> as I assume most of the development will be done 15:30:47 <vhari> that would be awesome carloss++ 15:31:27 <carloss> ack, I'll propose the changes 15:31:53 <carloss> that's all I had for announcements. Do you have an announcement to share with us today? 15:33:21 <carloss> taking silence as no 15:33:29 <carloss> #topic Review Focus: backports 15:33:35 <carloss> before we focus on the backports: 15:34:29 <carloss> I'l like to request some reviews to the ongoing specs: 15:34:38 <carloss> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/898999 Add spec for share encryption 15:34:39 <carloss> and 15:35:06 <carloss> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/901700 Add spec for share/share-snapshot deferred deletion 15:35:59 <carloss> ashrodri msaravan jayaanand haixin gireesh: can I have your eyes on the specs? :D 15:36:16 <jayaanand> ok 15:37:02 <carloss> awesome! thank you very much 15:37:07 <carloss> sorry I hijacked some time 15:37:18 <carloss> gouthamr: would you like to get started with $topic? :) 15:37:36 <gouthamr> sure thing carloss 15:38:06 <gouthamr> lets start with the fact that we're transitioning several open branches to EOL, and several to "unmaintained" status as we shared last meeting 15:38:34 <gouthamr> #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20230724-unmaintained-branches.html (TC resolution - 2023-07-24 Unmaintained status replaces Extended Maintenance) 15:39:13 <gouthamr> we've always strived to backport things with adequate testing.. but, these backports have been languishing for a while without attention.. 15:40:09 <gouthamr> thanks carloss haixin dviroel for taking a look .. i wanted to see if we can do a small review jam and get the remaining ones moving 15:41:29 <gouthamr> 2023.2 and 2023.1 seem better, and we'll _maintain_ these for a little bit 15:41:33 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/manila+status:open+branch:stable/zed (Zed) 15:41:40 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/manila+status:open+branch:stable/yoga (Yoga) 15:41:44 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/manila+status:open+branch:stable/yoga (Xena) 15:41:55 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/manila+status:open+branch:stable/wallaby (Wallaby) 15:42:20 <carloss> > i wanted to see if we can do a small review jam and get the remaining ones moving 15:42:20 <carloss> absolutely! and thanks for bringing this up gouthamr 15:43:17 <gouthamr> it'd be a great deal of help if we can clean these remaining ones out.. 15:43:23 <msaravan> I'll abandon my patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/892402 as it is not valid for Wallaby; 15:44:09 <gouthamr> cool stuff msaravan 15:45:17 <msaravan> Thank you for catching it goutham. Thorough review you did, and it reduced the impact on wallaby. 15:45:53 <gouthamr> you're welcome.. 15:46:47 <gouthamr> i think it'd make the job a whole lot easier for carloss dviroel haixin and myself if there were more eyes on the other changes :) i think if CI has been passing, and there's no -1s, we can go ahead and merge many of these 15:47:06 <gouthamr> the +1s ofcourse will give us confidence 15:48:46 <carloss> ++ 15:50:24 <carloss> so do you feel we should work on review assignments or do things more proactively? 15:52:21 <gouthamr> i think we can do assignments with the cores 15:52:51 <gouthamr> the rest can be opportunistic/proactive i think.. 15:52:57 <carloss> ack 15:53:19 <carloss> +1 15:54:04 <gouthamr> vendor driver changes in particular will need +1s, or they may not be appropriate to merge i think 15:54:42 <gouthamr> i.e., i wouldn't have the confidence that something works well, especially because we have poor CI coverage for these stable branches 15:54:48 <carloss> yeah, I agree 15:55:15 <carloss> and I think almost half of the changes are touching 3rd party drivers 15:57:28 <gouthamr> +1 15:58:07 <gouthamr> that's all i had, thank you carloss 15:58:26 <carloss> so we can assign some third party reviewers and you can assign other people to the changes 15:58:42 <carloss> and we can work with the stable branch cores to merge the remaining changes in the next couple of weeks 15:58:47 <carloss> thank you for bringing this up, gouthamr 15:59:00 <gouthamr> ++ 15:59:02 <carloss> I believe that's all I had for $topic too 15:59:13 <carloss> we're at the top of the hour 15:59:35 <carloss> sorry for not having time for bug triaging vhari - we can get back to the stale bug in two weeks time 15:59:44 <carloss> but if there's something pressing, please let us know 15:59:54 <carloss> how does that sound? :) 15:59:57 <vhari> np carloss .. there were no new bugs to triage this week :) 16:00:04 <carloss> ack vhari, ty :D 16:00:14 <carloss> thank you for joining folks! 16:00:19 <carloss> see you on #openstack-manila 16:00:22 <carloss> #endmeeting