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15:00:54 <Sai> o/
15:00:57 <vhari> o/
15:02:02 <gouthamr> hello o/
15:02:40 <gouthamr> courtesy ping: dviroel carthaca msaravan ashrodri gireesh
15:03:02 <gouthamr> i should drop cart haca from that list for a few more months
15:03:35 <vhari> ack :)
15:04:45 * gouthamr wonders if kpdev is around
15:05:11 <gouthamr> matrix users don't appear on the members list here..
15:05:39 * gouthamr ah, using the web interface! :)
15:05:50 <gouthamr> alright lets get started
15:06:03 <gouthamr> the agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_Meeting
15:06:07 <gouthamr> #topic Announcements
15:06:50 <gouthamr> we'll be shipping the first release candidate for manila and manila-ui from master marking the end of development for the flamingo release..
15:07:00 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/960087 (Manila RC1)
15:07:00 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/960086 (Manila UI RC1)
15:07:16 <gouthamr> i'll update these two patches at EOD today ^
15:07:46 <gouthamr> i.e., we still have a good chance to get any bugfixes into this RC
15:08:12 <gouthamr> the coordinated release will happen on Wednesday, October 1, 2025
15:08:42 <gouthamr> however, we will request further RCs only if release blocker bugs are identified
15:10:00 <gouthamr> after these two changes merge - the stable/2025.2 will be created and, any bugfixes, including release blockers must first land on the master branch and get backported to stable/2025.2 to be part of any further RC, or bugfix releases that we routinely tag after GA
15:12:56 <gouthamr> the next thing to call out is that the PTG is scheduled between Oct 27th-Oct 31st 2025
15:14:06 <gouthamr> we've not identified time slots yet.. but i just created a planning etherpad
15:14:13 <gouthamr> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/gazpacho-ptg-manila-planning (PTG Planning Etherpad)
15:15:57 <gouthamr> i threw in some topics off the top of my head :)
15:16:18 <gouthamr> please fill this out per your plans..
15:16:45 <gouthamr> alright, that's all the announcements i had, did anyone else have any?
15:17:55 <gouthamr> #topic Bugsquash follow up
15:18:01 <gouthamr> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-flamingo-m2-bugsquash
15:18:11 <gouthamr> ^ also relates to our RC prep
15:18:33 <gouthamr> i think we had quite some movement on these bugs,.. thanks for posting changes, as well as for reviewing
15:19:20 <gouthamr> lets go down this list and try to resolve some:
15:19:49 <gouthamr> subnet cleanup - this wasn't reported as a bug - but that's alright, it has a release note and the author's keen on getting this into all maintained stable branches
15:20:13 <gouthamr> we need some tweaks to the tempest plugin because test jobs are currently broken in 2024.2 and 2024.1
15:20:16 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-tempest-plugin/+/958516
15:20:28 <gouthamr> ^ vhari kpdev can you take a look?
15:21:00 <vhari> gouthamr, sure
15:21:43 <kpdev> ok
15:22:36 <gouthamr> thank you both; the bugfix patches are:
15:22:36 <gouthamr> #link    https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/958548 (2024.1)
15:22:36 <gouthamr> #link   https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/957698/ (2024.2)
15:22:46 <gouthamr> these are clean cherry-picks
15:23:17 <gouthamr> next change on the etherpad was wrt the Unity driver, it merged
15:23:40 <gouthamr> the next one concerns NetApp
15:23:45 <gouthamr> gireesh: unsure if you're around?
15:23:50 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/934676
15:24:16 <Anoop_Shukla> I can take a look at it.
15:24:23 <gouthamr> ^ gireesh had a +2 here earlier, and kpdev resolved a merge conflict
15:24:27 <gouthamr> thank you Anoop_Shukla
15:26:25 <gouthamr> the next one concerns share backup - where we'd now allow configuration of "enabled protocols" - much like enabled_share_protocols to fail requests early when a cloud doesn't support backing shares of one or more protocols
15:26:28 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/945656
15:26:47 <gouthamr> i think it looks okay, except, we just merged a change benefitting an out-of-tree backup driver
15:26:57 <gouthamr> i've tagged zgoggin on the change
15:27:23 <gouthamr> but this might need your feedback too, kpdev
15:28:50 <gouthamr> the next one looks trivial and fixes an important bug we've been hitting in devstack environments where we bounce the share manager a ton
15:28:52 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/956516
15:29:37 <gouthamr> it allows "ensuring" shares that are in "ensuring" status when the service is restarted..
15:30:06 <gouthamr> need some eyes here ^
15:31:09 <gouthamr> i need some RH folks or ceph users to look  at the next bugfix:
15:31:09 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/946758 (Fix NFS-Ganesha crashes when updating CephFS access rules)
15:31:09 <gouthamr> 
15:32:09 <gouthamr> i've raised a ceph bug too, so this will likely slip RC
15:32:18 <gouthamr> and can land later and get backported
15:32:50 <gouthamr> the next bug in the series is a doc bug:
15:32:50 <gouthamr> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2106314 ([DOC] Update CLI commands in shared-file-system-crud-share.rst)
15:32:58 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/946505
15:32:58 <gouthamr> 
15:33:24 <gouthamr> vhari: ty for looking at this.. if anyone else would like to, please do..
15:34:49 <gouthamr> the next one is a bug we hit occasionally in the CI - its a concurrency issue in the scheduler exposed by the ZFSOnLinux driver, but could occur with any driver
15:34:53 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/943657
15:35:13 <gouthamr> i fixed up the pep8 issue and the logs are refreshed, will bump my +1 to a +2
15:35:46 <gouthamr> would be nice to get this in too.. kpdev Sai - can i get your eyes on this?
15:37:29 <Sai> Sure Goutham
15:37:36 <gouthamr> thanks
15:37:51 <gouthamr> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1824442 (Manila's share networks API exposes privileged network information)
15:37:58 <gouthamr> the fix for this is failing CI
15:38:06 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/849015
15:38:33 <gouthamr> does a bit more than it should; RianeTorres[m] might update this tomorrow, but, it'll miss the RC
15:39:19 <gouthamr> which is fine, but its a good bug fix to have in this release, we'll discuss this again next week if its ready
15:39:30 <gouthamr> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1868088 (RFE: Provide an admin API to query quotas for all user in a project)
15:39:38 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/807780
15:39:44 <gouthamr> ^ in merge conflict, and not ready
15:40:00 <gouthamr> that's the end of the list of bugs we'd targeted
15:41:21 <gouthamr> i think we can get this one in too:
15:41:21 <gouthamr> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/957856
15:41:35 <gouthamr> kpdev: why the +1, and not +2? :)
15:42:26 <kpdev> releasenotes needs upate
15:42:39 <gouthamr> ah
15:43:01 <gouthamr> okay, ty for flagging it
15:43:10 <gouthamr> it'll likely be backported further, so no rush here
15:43:25 <gouthamr> okay do we want to discuss any more bugfixes today?
15:43:55 <gouthamr> we started from a great list on https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-flamingo-m2-bugsquash - i think it was very nice to get closure on many of these
15:45:33 <gouthamr> #topic Bug Triage (vhari)
15:46:11 <vhari> ty gouthamr
15:46:32 <vhari> holding steady again .. no new bugs this week
15:46:41 <vhari> want to revisit #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1934467
15:47:33 <vhari> any data on this, is it  still an issue?
15:48:05 <gouthamr> py3.9 isn't supported on manila anymore.. but, this may not be py39 specific
15:48:16 <vhari> ack
15:49:04 <gouthamr> so assertEqual when run against two unordered lists is failing
15:49:48 <gouthamr> to be deterministic, we should either check for existence or, equivalence of a sorted list
15:49:56 <gouthamr> we've never run into this in the CI system
15:50:56 <gouthamr> assertEqual wasn't built to check ordering.. so our expectation is incorrect if we don't see things in an order..
15:51:53 <gouthamr> i.e., assertEqual([1, 2, 3], [3, 2, 1]) will fail because the order of the elements is different
15:51:53 <gouthamr> but i'm not sure how something like this wouldn't also be showing up in the CI
15:52:26 <gouthamr> deja vu: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2021/manila.2021-07-08-15.00.log.html#l-101
15:52:58 <gouthamr> i suggested running this locally with "--until-failure" back then
15:53:13 <gouthamr> and iirc we discussed that it wasn't reproducible
15:53:20 <gouthamr> lets close the bug with this data
15:53:36 <vhari> ++
15:53:38 <gouthamr> if its a concern, it'll be reported again
15:54:28 <vhari> so that's a wrap for bugs folks
15:54:40 <gouthamr> ty vhari
15:54:44 <vhari> ty for tuning in
15:54:46 <gouthamr> #topic Open Discussion
15:57:19 <gouthamr> alright, lets wrap it up.. only Bear news from me today is that Fat Bear week is coming soon :D
15:57:29 <gouthamr> (Sep 23rd i think)
15:57:34 <gouthamr> in the meanwhile: https://news.sky.com/video/zoo-animals-munch-away-for-national-watermelon-day-13406951
15:57:40 <gouthamr> thank you all for joining
15:57:41 <vhari> :)
15:57:45 <gouthamr> see you on #openstack-manila
15:57:47 <gouthamr> #endmeeting