15:01:06 #startmeeting marconi 15:01:06 wee 15:01:07 Meeting started Tue Apr 29 15:01:06 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kgriffs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:08 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:10 haha 15:01:11 #topic roll call 15:01:11 The meeting name has been set to 'marconi' 15:01:12 o/ 15:01:14 o/ 15:01:15 o/ 15:01:17 o/ 15:01:19 o/ 15:01:19 o/ 15:01:19 o/ 15:01:21 o/ 15:01:22 \x -> x 15:01:23 o/ 15:01:23 o/ 15:02:27 looks like flaper87 brought all his clones today 15:02:36 highly-available flaper87 15:02:37 kgriffs: some of them :D 15:02:48 o/ 15:03:22 #topic actions from last time 15:03:27 guys, I have booked the air ticket and hotel, so... 15:03:38 flwang: w00000000000000t 15:03:43 hurray, flwang! 15:03:46 flwang: when do you arrive? 15:03:51 flwang: looking forward to meeting you for real :) 15:04:02 10th May 15:35 15:04:25 haha, a typical chinese guy :) 15:04:38 flwang: w00t 15:04:40 cool, a few of us will be in Saturday as well. we should go get some food or something 15:04:42 kgriffs: sorry, pls go on :D 15:04:59 moving on... :D 15:05:05 action: malini will document pop in v1.1 api 2x's, once with each param (pop & ids) 15:05:20 I did not do that :-$ 15:05:31 will get it done right after the meeting 15:05:38 #action malini will document pop in v1.1 api 2x's, once with each param (pop & ids), for realz this time 15:05:44 lol 15:06:00 :P 15:06:06 you can do it lazily. we encourag elazy queues, malini 15:06:09 *encourage 15:06:15 ok, I don't see any other action items from the log. Anything else people want to report on real quick? 15:06:24 I'll make a small report 15:06:35 I do it in JIT -in case we dont need tht :-P 15:06:37 I started looking at oslo.messaging this morning 15:06:44 very briefly 15:06:50 I can see the source of confusion 15:06:57 interestingly, there's much shared terminology 15:07:08 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/Messaging#Current_State 15:07:22 I'll wrap up the FAQ on that by the end of the week 15:07:35 alcabrera: awesome, thanks! 15:07:40 np. :) 15:07:42 that's all 15:07:49 * flaper87 was going to bring the FAQ thing up again this week 15:07:56 we need to get that done by EOW 15:08:09 I'd like to have it all on the wiki before the summit 15:08:22 anyway, lets move on. Lots of things to discuss today 15:08:44 ok. I have started working on restructuring our wiki. It will take some time to get it right, but please let's keep eachother in the loop and find a nice home for all these FAQs. 15:08:56 FYI..sriram & me will get some basic benchmark numbers ready this week 15:09:02 yes 15:09:08 tht will be our primary focus 15:09:21 kgriffs: I already created a page for our general FAQ 15:09:27 rock on. Wiki work in general is my #1 priority this week 15:09:28 it's at the top of the etherpad 15:09:39 we can move it 15:09:51 I was just letting you know there's one to avoid duplicates 15:09:53 :D 15:10:36 flaper87: thanks, gtk. Content is king; we can move things around as needed. 15:10:48 moving on... 15:11:17 #action everyone to work on getting the wiki ready for the summit 15:12:06 obligatory inspirational quote: 15:12:07 https://twitter.com/kgriffs/status/460864298856620032 15:12:23 #link https://twitter.com/kgriffs/status/460864298856620032 15:12:43 #topic feature toggles 15:13:19 so, I've been keeping an ear to the ground when other teams bring up the idea of using marconi for a new feature 15:13:38 the biggest blocker for them is that we aren't yet graduated 15:14:03 I talked to heat about this and they are thinking they could make the feature optional, like you can toggle it in the config 15:14:38 kgriffs: so who will contribute it? us or the heat team? 15:14:43 so, just something to keep in mind when we engage other teams about integrating with Marconi. We need to help solve the chicken-and-egg problem. 15:14:48 kgriffs: you know, it would be a reference 15:15:19 flwang: i think there is a design session about this feature; some of us should attend that and volunteer to help 15:15:34 TBH, I don't think graduation should be a requirement 15:15:40 but that's a topic for another meeting 15:15:47 kgriffs: +1, so should we actively interlock with the potential interested team to make it happen and make it as a reference? 15:15:53 * flaper87 doesn't want to randomly rant 15:16:13 flwang: we are our own marketing team 15:16:25 we need to think how other projects could benefit from marconi 15:16:26 flwang: yes. Let's pick 2-3 teams. I think heat should be one. 15:16:46 kgriffs: and Ceilometer , Barbican 15:16:56 and chase them down if necesary to get things donw 15:17:04 flaper87: +1 15:17:05 and horizon 15:17:28 anyway, kgriffs thanks for that reminder. it's a good point 15:17:58 kgriffs: flaper87: i think Horizon is a good candidate 15:18:10 kk. Just wanted to get everyone thinking about removing perceptual barriers to integration 15:18:17 given RAX has already implemented the GUI 15:19:05 moving on ? 15:19:19 * flaper87 is freaking out for the many topics to discuss 15:19:23 :P 15:19:27 #agreed heat and horizon are good candidates for partnering 15:19:41 #topic Finalize details for giveaway, make assignments 15:21:01 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/marconi-juno-promotion 15:22:02 FYI the time between the topic change and the link posting is how long it took kgriffs to find the linkk in the 1000k tabs he has opened 15:22:14 heh 15:22:19 flaper87: you know me too well 15:22:22 * alcabrera can relate 15:22:22 * flaper87 knows kgriffs's laptop 15:22:22 :P 15:22:34 ok, so here is my proposal 15:22:41 we order 4 udoo boards to give away 15:22:48 we give 1 away with a raffle 15:23:06 you enter by submitting your first patch to Marconi by the deadline 15:23:10 ...and we keep the remaining 3 for ourselves 15:23:15 lol 15:23:17 cpallares: :D 15:23:21 cpallares: LOL 15:23:32 then we give 3 away for best app that uses marconi, one for each category (and we need to figure out those categories) 15:23:36 :P 15:23:47 kgriffs: love the idea 15:23:57 #link http://www.udoo.org/ 15:23:58 Can we create a Best App by a TC member ;) 15:24:13 it's like a turbocharged rpi with an Arduino tacked on 15:24:28 malini: heh. :D 15:25:21 woah 15:25:23 neat 15:25:43 so, the student one - I am open to suggestions 15:26:08 * mpanetta comes up with a killer queues idea to get the udooooo :P 15:26:08 basically I want to have a category that encourages participation from all skill levels 15:26:47 mpanetta: marconi members are automatically disqualified from participating :-P 15:26:54 Damn :P 15:27:02 * mpanetta comes up with a killer idea anyway :P 15:27:10 kgriffs: yep, I would say, we encourage the junior developer, but we're welcome for the senior guys to contribute for Marconi as well 15:27:11 Gotta set the bar somehow :P 15:27:17 maybe only core reviewers are disqualified. 15:27:32 * flaper87 will sell mpanetta's idea to some random student 15:27:37 kgriffs: oh, no 15:27:43 hah 15:27:46 lol 15:27:49 hah! 15:27:50 kgriffs: +1 15:28:15 kgriffs: my prize... 15:28:23 I like those categories and at least I know mpanetta is not a student 15:28:30 I think I know that 15:28:36 :P 15:28:40 can i participate if i have a student id? 15:28:40 * mpanetta is a student in life :P 15:29:07 amitgandhi: good question 15:29:30 * amitgandhi schemes up ways to game the system 15:29:31 kgriffs: how could you prove flwang is not a student? 15:29:36 amitgandhi: we don't accept expired ids ;) 15:29:45 no expiration date =P 15:29:51 lol 15:29:52 I have a student ID with no dates in it :-P 15:29:56 haha 15:30:00 its got full authenticity too ;-) 15:30:01 me too :P 15:30:04 re students, we need to assume good faith 15:30:09 I think we are digressing 15:30:13 cow bell!!!! 15:30:18 malini: thanks! 15:30:30 lol cow bell 15:30:36 yeah, lets move on 15:30:51 I like those topics and I'm fine with assuming good faith 15:31:05 at the very end, we care about the ideas and people getting familiar with MArconi 15:31:13 ok, so the idea also is to buy some mac and cheese in bulk and slap a link/QR on it that points to a wiki page with rules and stuff. 15:31:30 flaper87: +1 15:31:31 kgriffs: who is buying it? 15:31:37 someone in Atlanta with a costco membership? 15:32:02 kgriffs: how many cases do we need? 15:32:19 goood question. 15:32:25 let's sort that out after the mtg 15:32:30 ok 15:32:31 malini: are you volunteering? 15:32:33 ;) 15:32:52 kgriffs: I can volunteer 15:33:06 I would like to volunteer 15:33:11 kgriffs: I could, but I have a new manager who might not approve cases of mac n cheese :( 15:33:21 #action Obulpathi to procure Mac & Cheese and organize a party to slap QR codes on them 15:34:13 #action kgriffs to create landing page on the wiki 15:34:38 I can use mailgun or google docs form to collect submissions 15:34:50 and I will get a draft of the page out ASAP so everyone can review 15:35:07 Obulpathi: Allan should be able to reimburse you or lend you his corporate card 15:35:26 balajiiyer: can you order the ARM boards? 15:35:34 I'd like to have one at the summit on display 15:35:49 maybe with a cute little flyer (may be one you can download from their website) 15:35:51 kgriffs: ok. thanks. 15:35:56 kgriffs: I can. I will work with mpanetta on this. 15:36:08 #action balajiiyer and mpanetta to order udoo boards 15:36:52 gentle reminder: 20mins left 15:36:59 balajiiyer: dual or Quad, whichever you can get expensed most easily. :D 15:37:05 flaper87: yep, moving on 15:37:29 #topic 15:37:35 #topic Summit objectives, talking points 15:37:57 let's take 3 minutes and brainstorm objectives. just anything that comes to mind; we will refine next week 15:38:03 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/marconi-atl-scratch 15:39:27 ideas? 15:40:09 I'd like to avoid dedicating that much time to wsgi frameworks this time around 15:40:43 the technical analisys was done, there remaining part of this work is the community impact that is yet to be done 15:40:51 s/there/the/ 15:41:03 so, I'd like us to get (from the community): 15:41:19 1. Feedback about the API, architecture and Look&Feel of the project 15:41:35 2. Possible use cases within and beyond openstack 15:41:53 3. Ideas 15:41:58 note - on heat i started this during hackday last week: https://github.com/amitgandhinz/heat_templates/tree/master/Marconi 15:43:48 great, thanks! As you come up with more thoughts, please add them to the pad and we will circle back on this next week. We should also chat about this in person sat/sun/monday 15:43:57 (at the start of the summit) 15:44:52 We really need everyone to be focused on some concrete objectives during the week so we can get the most out of the conference/summit 15:46:12 #topic Team meetup at the Summit - Agree on time & place (malini) 15:46:26 Plz cast your votes here 15:46:28 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/marconi-party 15:46:49 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/marconi-party 15:46:55 * flaper87 clicks 15:47:24 We have one person flying in at 1 pm - a couple more who want to be there will fly in only on sunday night 15:49:08 I've no idea about the venues 15:49:32 so, we'll meet on Sunday? 15:49:33 by sunday night, do you mean after 7pm or earlier? 15:49:45 * flaper87 is lost 15:50:02 kgriffs: later than 7 pm too :( 15:50:09 who is Marta ? 15:50:10 malini: +1 15:50:12 flaper87: you cannot get lost yet 15:50:17 (ok, I admit it, I was trolling) 15:50:18 Marta is local transport 15:50:22 flaper87: lol 15:50:28 (re marta) 15:50:54 * flaper87 couldn't help it 15:50:54 grr..we have 3 ppl voted for the 3 time choices 15:51:01 what about summit day evenings? 15:51:14 do you have to take marta to CNN? 15:51:23 kgriffs: no 15:51:24 Obulpathi: those are full of events 15:51:32 flaper87: ok 15:51:34 CNN is downtown 15:52:13 how about we eat at 6, and folks who are around could also do the CNN tour beforehand? 15:52:29 works for me 15:52:43 kgriffs: the CNN center food court might be closed by 6 15:52:49 is world of coke in the same area? I never did go downtown much while I lived in the area. :p 15:52:56 kgriffs: it is 15:53:02 kgriffs: +1 15:53:04 that would be fun too 15:53:07 dont make us drink all those coke, plz 15:53:21 ok, so food at 5? 15:53:26 I have a moral obligation to not go there 15:53:49 5 is the number of minutes we've left 15:53:52 and CNN tour before that? 15:53:54 but yeah, that sounds fine :D 15:54:24 sounds good 15:54:28 ok 15:54:42 malini can you send me a list of email addresses and I will send out an evite? 15:54:56 or you can send out the evite too, whatever 15:55:44 #action malini and kgriffs to get an evite out for the team meetup at the summit 15:56:30 #agreed summit team meetup at 5 on Sunday - CNN center 15:56:44 #topic Make check-tempest-dsvm-marconi voting + add a voting gate-tempest-dsvm-marconi (malini) 15:57:02 So we have the job passing now, running against sqlite 15:57:07 +1 from me 15:57:13 anybody has objections to make it voting? 15:57:21 go go go! 15:57:30 +1 from me 15:57:44 * flaper87 is curious to know who objects 15:57:45 >.> 15:57:54 nobody..yayy!!! 15:58:01 #action malini to make check-tempest-dsvm-marconi voting + add a voting gate-tempest-dsvm-marconi 15:58:07 * flaper87 gets his lightsaber 15:58:26 #topic open discussion 15:58:33 for 20 seconds :D 15:58:50 :O 15:58:59 https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4074/5446299066_66aaaa9271_z.jpg 15:59:00 I want to discuss openly the remaining topics 15:59:12 :P 15:59:12 just kidding, we can do that on #marconi 15:59:20 :D 15:59:26 looking forward to meet y'all 15:59:53 cpallares: LOL 16:00:03 rock. OK, so we have three more topics. Let's take 15 minutes in #openstack-marconi to discuss? 16:00:20 thanks everyone! 16:00:35 w000t 16:00:37 #endmeeting