07:01:49 <yoctozepto> #startmeeting masakari 07:01:49 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Nov 24 07:01:49 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yoctozepto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 07:01:50 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 07:01:52 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' 07:02:00 <jopdorp> Here 07:02:01 <yoctozepto> #topic Roll-call 07:02:06 <yoctozepto> \o/ 07:02:13 <jopdorp> o/ 07:02:24 <suzhengwei> \o/ 07:02:37 <jopdorp> :D 07:04:46 <yoctozepto> #topic Agenda 07:04:53 <yoctozepto> * Roll-call 07:04:57 <yoctozepto> * Agenda 07:05:01 <yoctozepto> * Announcements 07:05:05 <yoctozepto> ** New Masakari versions released from stable branches 07:05:09 <yoctozepto> ** Masakari Stein moved to EM (Extended Maintenance) stage 07:05:12 <yoctozepto> ** Teams cleanup has happened http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018542.html 07:05:15 <yoctozepto> * Review action items from the last meeting 07:05:18 <yoctozepto> * CI status 07:05:22 <yoctozepto> * Backports pending reviews 07:05:25 <yoctozepto> * Release planning 07:05:29 <yoctozepto> ** Review action items from the Wallaby vPTG https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/masakari-wallaby-vptg 07:05:32 <yoctozepto> * Open discussion 07:05:39 <yoctozepto> #topic Announcements 07:05:49 <yoctozepto> #info New Masakari versions released from stable branches 07:06:03 <yoctozepto> finally some fixes will reach the stable users 07:06:37 <yoctozepto> #info Masakari Stein moved to EM (Extended Maintenance) stage 07:07:05 <yoctozepto> it's this time of the cycle when we move the oldest stable to EM 07:07:17 <yoctozepto> and it has happened for Masakari as well 07:07:43 <yoctozepto> #info Teams cleanup has happened http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018542.html 07:08:31 <yoctozepto> I did not receive any response from SamP nor Tushar 07:08:42 <jopdorp> ok 07:08:45 <yoctozepto> so I guess we can assume they are the current ghosts in the team 07:08:55 <jopdorp> agreed 07:08:56 <yoctozepto> other ghosts removed though 07:09:09 * yoctozepto very sad about this 07:09:18 <yoctozepto> but what can we do now 07:09:39 <yoctozepto> #topic Review action items from the last meeting 07:09:52 <yoctozepto> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-11-10-07.00.html 07:09:59 <yoctozepto> yoctozepto to add periodic jobs to masakari 07:10:13 <yoctozepto> I've propose a bunch of changes, please review and approve 07:12:25 <yoctozepto> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22ci-periodic-jobs%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged) 07:12:37 <yoctozepto> yoctozepto to replace bit.ly links with their long forms 07:12:39 <yoctozepto> I did 07:12:48 <yoctozepto> suzhengwei to reflect upon yoctozepto's findings about disabled/enabled 07:12:54 <yoctozepto> suzhengwei: have you had a chance to? 07:14:05 <suzhengwei> a little opinion 07:14:30 <suzhengwei> I notice Keystone uses 'enabled' (default True) in service table. 07:14:59 <yoctozepto> hmm 07:15:51 <yoctozepto> let me check quickly 07:16:19 <suzhengwei> Cli # openstack service list --long 07:16:44 <jopdorp> where are the findings themselves? 07:17:03 <suzhengwei> Using 'disabled' is not conforming. 07:19:30 <yoctozepto> suzhengwei: well, using 'disabled' makes us conform to nova's practices (and I usually follow those) but indeed it seems there is not set-in-stone best practice as keystone is doing it differently 07:20:01 <yoctozepto> I am ok to continue with the current approach to avoid unnecessary extra work, thanks 07:20:15 <yoctozepto> jopdorp: agreeing too? 07:20:18 <jopdorp> yes 07:20:58 <yoctozepto> #agreed go with `enabled` for segments as there is no need to force ourselves to rewrite to `disabled` (no universal practice exists) 07:21:00 <yoctozepto> thanks 07:21:12 <yoctozepto> yoctozepto to switch masakari focus in launchpad from victoria to wallaby 07:21:13 <yoctozepto> I did 07:21:22 <yoctozepto> yoctozepto to clean teams up 07:21:26 <yoctozepto> I did (already announced) 07:21:33 <yoctozepto> yoctozepto to release stable branches 07:21:38 <yoctozepto> I did (already announced) 07:21:56 <yoctozepto> #topic CI status 07:23:12 <yoctozepto> it's green, just not much happening 07:23:23 <yoctozepto> #topic Backports pending reviews 07:25:02 <yoctozepto> there are none 07:26:09 <yoctozepto> #topic Release planning 07:26:19 <yoctozepto> #info Review action items from the Wallaby vPTG https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/masakari-wallaby-vptg 07:26:34 <yoctozepto> how is it going? 07:26:50 <jopdorp> I looked at the specs by suzhengwei 07:27:04 <jopdorp> and started going through the code 07:27:13 <jopdorp> for docs 07:27:14 <yoctozepto> thanks, I saw your contributions 07:27:21 <yoctozepto> verry nice 07:27:47 <jopdorp> it's turning out a bit different from what was discussed in the ptg 07:28:08 <jopdorp> but I needed to get some overview of the code first so went with code structure first 07:28:12 <jopdorp> I 07:28:23 <yoctozepto> what do you mean by 'different from what was discussed'? 07:28:33 <jopdorp> I'll do another iteration to look at the examples and correctness of the docs 07:29:11 <jopdorp> and maybe make some general recommendations on the docs 07:30:00 <jopdorp> i didn't write anything here yet 07:30:01 <jopdorp> https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/masakari-doc-inspection 07:32:02 <yoctozepto> jopdorp: that's ok; as long as it gets somewhere public 07:32:09 <jopdorp> yes 07:32:23 <jopdorp> i did make this spec also 07:32:24 <jopdorp> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/masakari-specs/+/762517 07:32:30 <jopdorp> it was a todo from the ptg 07:32:38 <yoctozepto> we should ideally follow the community-wise goal to have more standardized contributor docs 07:33:02 <jopdorp> I'm waiting for reviews on that one before starting on the next spec about migration of vm's back to hosts after they aren't in failed state anymore 07:33:17 <yoctozepto> I saw the spec, but I'm running in negative time space so could not react 07:33:24 <yoctozepto> please others review too 07:33:58 <suzhengwei> I will review it 07:34:03 <jopdorp> thanks 07:35:08 <jopdorp> yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/masakari/+/763035 07:35:31 <jopdorp> does that have to do with the standardization? 07:36:26 <yoctozepto> jopdorp: yeah, but it's very rudimentary cleanup :-) 07:36:38 <jopdorp> ok 07:37:20 <jopdorp> do you have a link to contributor docs guidelines? 07:37:43 <jopdorp> I'm fine with following some standard, but have no idea what it is 07:37:49 <yoctozepto> #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007236 07:38:19 <yoctozepto> also, you can look at an example of how we did that for kolla 07:38:23 <yoctozepto> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/730589 07:38:41 <yoctozepto> likely you might want to see other projects, just follow the storyboard 07:40:04 <jopdorp> thanks 07:40:27 <yoctozepto> you are welcome 07:41:59 <jopdorp> \ 07:42:01 <jopdorp> do you have a link to contributor docs guidelines? 07:42:03 <jopdorp> oops 07:42:07 <jopdorp> my son says hello 07:42:24 <jopdorp> regard those messages as unsent 07:43:17 <suzhengwei> ^-^ 07:44:53 <yoctozepto> jopdorp: say hello to your son as well 07:45:02 <jopdorp> done! 07:45:02 <yoctozepto> jopdorp: already proficient in English :-) 07:45:17 <jopdorp> xD 07:46:10 <jopdorp> suzhengwei: could you also look at this one https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/masakari/+/458793 07:47:04 <suzhengwei> I will 07:48:04 <jopdorp> Thanks 07:49:25 <suzhengwei> You are welcome. 07:50:47 <yoctozepto> jopdorp: have you checked whether it will now act like nova (or others) do? 07:51:00 <yoctozepto> I am not entirely sure about that redirect 07:51:21 <jopdorp> I did not check that 07:51:40 <jopdorp> Only implemented the way that was proposed in the comments 07:51:44 <yoctozepto> I see 07:51:52 <yoctozepto> please do, I'll do when I get to it for sure 07:52:01 <yoctozepto> ok, now for anything else you want to tell me (and the world 07:52:07 <yoctozepto> #topic Open discussion 07:55:25 <yoctozepto> nothin? 07:55:27 <yoctozepto> :D 07:55:41 <suzhengwei> I have nothing to disscuss. 07:55:46 <jopdorp> Haha 07:55:49 <jopdorp> Me neither 07:57:34 <yoctozepto> all righty 07:57:53 <yoctozepto> thank you for joining 07:57:59 <yoctozepto> #endmeeting