07:01:49 #startmeeting masakari 07:01:49 Meeting started Tue Nov 24 07:01:49 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yoctozepto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 07:01:50 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 07:01:52 The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' 07:02:00 Here 07:02:01 #topic Roll-call 07:02:06 \o/ 07:02:13 o/ 07:02:24 \o/ 07:02:37 :D 07:04:46 #topic Agenda 07:04:53 * Roll-call 07:04:57 * Agenda 07:05:01 * Announcements 07:05:05 ** New Masakari versions released from stable branches 07:05:09 ** Masakari Stein moved to EM (Extended Maintenance) stage 07:05:12 ** Teams cleanup has happened http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018542.html 07:05:15 * Review action items from the last meeting 07:05:18 * CI status 07:05:22 * Backports pending reviews 07:05:25 * Release planning 07:05:29 ** Review action items from the Wallaby vPTG https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/masakari-wallaby-vptg 07:05:32 * Open discussion 07:05:39 #topic Announcements 07:05:49 #info New Masakari versions released from stable branches 07:06:03 finally some fixes will reach the stable users 07:06:37 #info Masakari Stein moved to EM (Extended Maintenance) stage 07:07:05 it's this time of the cycle when we move the oldest stable to EM 07:07:17 and it has happened for Masakari as well 07:07:43 #info Teams cleanup has happened http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018542.html 07:08:31 I did not receive any response from SamP nor Tushar 07:08:42 ok 07:08:45 so I guess we can assume they are the current ghosts in the team 07:08:55 agreed 07:08:56 other ghosts removed though 07:09:09 * yoctozepto very sad about this 07:09:18 but what can we do now 07:09:39 #topic Review action items from the last meeting 07:09:52 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-11-10-07.00.html 07:09:59 yoctozepto to add periodic jobs to masakari 07:10:13 I've propose a bunch of changes, please review and approve 07:12:25 #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22ci-periodic-jobs%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged) 07:12:37 yoctozepto to replace bit.ly links with their long forms 07:12:39 I did 07:12:48 suzhengwei to reflect upon yoctozepto's findings about disabled/enabled 07:12:54 suzhengwei: have you had a chance to? 07:14:05 a little opinion 07:14:30 I notice Keystone uses 'enabled' (default True) in service table. 07:14:59 hmm 07:15:51 let me check quickly 07:16:19 Cli # openstack service list --long 07:16:44 where are the findings themselves? 07:17:03 Using 'disabled' is not conforming. 07:19:30 suzhengwei: well, using 'disabled' makes us conform to nova's practices (and I usually follow those) but indeed it seems there is not set-in-stone best practice as keystone is doing it differently 07:20:01 I am ok to continue with the current approach to avoid unnecessary extra work, thanks 07:20:15 jopdorp: agreeing too? 07:20:18 yes 07:20:58 #agreed go with `enabled` for segments as there is no need to force ourselves to rewrite to `disabled` (no universal practice exists) 07:21:00 thanks 07:21:12 yoctozepto to switch masakari focus in launchpad from victoria to wallaby 07:21:13 I did 07:21:22 yoctozepto to clean teams up 07:21:26 I did (already announced) 07:21:33 yoctozepto to release stable branches 07:21:38 I did (already announced) 07:21:56 #topic CI status 07:23:12 it's green, just not much happening 07:23:23 #topic Backports pending reviews 07:25:02 there are none 07:26:09 #topic Release planning 07:26:19 #info Review action items from the Wallaby vPTG https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/masakari-wallaby-vptg 07:26:34 how is it going? 07:26:50 I looked at the specs by suzhengwei 07:27:04 and started going through the code 07:27:13 for docs 07:27:14 thanks, I saw your contributions 07:27:21 verry nice 07:27:47 it's turning out a bit different from what was discussed in the ptg 07:28:08 but I needed to get some overview of the code first so went with code structure first 07:28:12 I 07:28:23 what do you mean by 'different from what was discussed'? 07:28:33 I'll do another iteration to look at the examples and correctness of the docs 07:29:11 and maybe make some general recommendations on the docs 07:30:00 i didn't write anything here yet 07:30:01 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/masakari-doc-inspection 07:32:02 jopdorp: that's ok; as long as it gets somewhere public 07:32:09 yes 07:32:23 i did make this spec also 07:32:24 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/masakari-specs/+/762517 07:32:30 it was a todo from the ptg 07:32:38 we should ideally follow the community-wise goal to have more standardized contributor docs 07:33:02 I'm waiting for reviews on that one before starting on the next spec about migration of vm's back to hosts after they aren't in failed state anymore 07:33:17 I saw the spec, but I'm running in negative time space so could not react 07:33:24 please others review too 07:33:58 I will review it 07:34:03 thanks 07:35:08 yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/masakari/+/763035 07:35:31 does that have to do with the standardization? 07:36:26 jopdorp: yeah, but it's very rudimentary cleanup :-) 07:36:38 ok 07:37:20 do you have a link to contributor docs guidelines? 07:37:43 I'm fine with following some standard, but have no idea what it is 07:37:49 #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007236 07:38:19 also, you can look at an example of how we did that for kolla 07:38:23 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/730589 07:38:41 likely you might want to see other projects, just follow the storyboard 07:40:04 thanks 07:40:27 you are welcome 07:41:59 \ 07:42:01 do you have a link to contributor docs guidelines? 07:42:03 oops 07:42:07 my son says hello 07:42:24 regard those messages as unsent 07:43:17 ^-^ 07:44:53 jopdorp: say hello to your son as well 07:45:02 done! 07:45:02 jopdorp: already proficient in English :-) 07:45:17 xD 07:46:10 suzhengwei: could you also look at this one https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/masakari/+/458793 07:47:04 I will 07:48:04 Thanks 07:49:25 You are welcome. 07:50:47 jopdorp: have you checked whether it will now act like nova (or others) do? 07:51:00 I am not entirely sure about that redirect 07:51:21 I did not check that 07:51:40 Only implemented the way that was proposed in the comments 07:51:44 I see 07:51:52 please do, I'll do when I get to it for sure 07:52:01 ok, now for anything else you want to tell me (and the world 07:52:07 #topic Open discussion 07:55:25 nothin? 07:55:27 :D 07:55:41 I have nothing to disscuss. 07:55:46 Haha 07:55:49 Me neither 07:57:34 all righty 07:57:53 thank you for joining 07:57:59 #endmeeting