02:01:53 <zhenguo> #startmeeting mogan
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02:01:57 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'mogan'
02:02:07 <zhenguo> o/
02:02:33 <_liusheng> o/
02:02:37 <zhangyang> o/
02:02:57 <zhenguo> anybody else here?
02:03:09 <litao__> o/
02:03:39 <zhenguo> luyao, Xinran: are you here?
02:04:02 <luyao> zhenguo, yes
02:04:18 <zhenguo> ok, as always, the agenda:
02:04:18 <zhenguo> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Mogan#Agenda_for_next_meeting
02:04:28 <zhenguo> let's jump in
02:04:33 <zhenguo> #topic announcements and reminders
02:04:56 <zhenguo> I sent out a mail to ask if we can share the same keyword baremetal with ironic in CLI
02:05:16 <zhenguo> although there are no collisions presently, but maybe happen in future
02:05:27 <zhenguo> do you have any suggestions about this?
02:06:20 <zhenguo> some guys suggest we should at lest use another keywork like ironic inspecter to group mogan commands
02:06:29 <zhenguo> like openstack baremetal compute xxx
02:07:18 <_liusheng> But this make some commands too long
02:07:25 * zhenguo let me find the mail thread
02:07:38 <zhenguo> _liusheng: yes, that's also my concern
02:08:12 <litao__> change baremetal to another keyword?
02:08:16 <zhenguo> #link https://openstack.nimeyo.com/113997/openstack-dev-osc-ironic-mogan-share-same-keyword-baremetal
02:08:22 <zhenguo> litao__: yes
02:08:32 <zhenguo> maybe we can change to use 'bm'
02:08:44 <zhenguo> openstack bm server list/show/create/delete
02:09:39 <zhenguo> especially 'baremetal server' and 'baremetal node' are synonyms
02:10:23 <zhenguo> as we also want to add node aggregates support, it may cause collision with ironic 'openstack baremetal node xx'
02:11:16 <litao__> maybe
02:11:44 <zhenguo> so the long term solution is to change to use another keyword
02:12:00 <zhenguo> bm? maybe
02:12:41 <_liusheng> Or may we don't use the "baremetal "?
02:12:54 <zhenguo> _liusheng: yes
02:13:28 <litao__> just 'openstack server'?
02:13:37 <_liusheng> Seems it is proper for Ironic but not for Morgan
02:13:44 <zhenguo> litao__: hah, that's what nova does
02:14:06 <zhenguo> _liusheng: do you have any suggestions?
02:14:18 <litao__> is 'physical server' OK?
02:14:19 <_liusheng> IMO the bare means physical server without OS
02:14:56 <zhenguo> litao__: physical seems a bit strange
02:15:02 <_liusheng> We provide deployed physical server
02:15:15 <zhenguo> _liusheng: not exactly, they all call it baremetal server
02:15:41 <_liusheng> Hah personal thought
02:15:56 <zhenguo> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bare-metal_server
02:16:52 <zhenguo> 'baremetal server' is the best choice for me, but we should avoid confusions
02:18:19 <zhenguo> I propose to change to replace baremetal with bm, if you don't have any other suggestions
02:18:40 <zhenguo> or maybe we can think this more and discuss later
02:18:49 <_liusheng> But they means same thing
02:19:08 <zhenguo> _liusheng: yes, we just need a same thing here
02:20:31 <litao__> Did anybody deny us for using ‘baremetal server’?
02:20:36 <Xinran> sorry i'm late
02:20:43 <zhenguo> Xinran: np
02:21:13 <zhenguo> litao__: currently not, but ironic guys a bit -1 for this
02:21:43 <_liusheng> yes I think there shouldn't be a namespace concept
02:22:22 <zhenguo> _liusheng: yes, I also think one keyword should not belongs to one service
02:22:24 <_liusheng> For osc  it should only care the resource of openstack
02:22:40 <zhenguo> _liusheng: hah
02:23:37 <zhenguo> so, we can keep the baremetal keywrord? lol
02:24:00 <zhenguo> you guys can reply the mail to get more suggestions from the community
02:24:23 <litao__> yes, we can fight with ironic guys
02:25:01 <zhenguo> litao__: not fight, hah
02:25:12 <zhenguo> litao__: they don't deny us for using baremetal
02:25:48 <litao__> zhenguo: lol
02:25:50 <zhenguo> litao__: we need to join force with ironic
02:26:38 <zhenguo> so, just keep the CLI pattern now until we got some other better suggestions
02:27:20 <_liusheng> The gap between different projects should be invisible for users
02:27:55 <litao__> zhenguo: agree
02:28:09 <zhenguo> _liusheng: yes, users should only care about what resouces they managed
02:28:14 <zhenguo> litao__: hah
02:29:43 <zhenguo> ok, let's move on
02:30:16 <zhenguo> we are still very light on docs :(
02:30:43 <zhenguo> not sure if you noticed the mail to ask mogan architecture diagram
02:32:09 <litao__> hah,  just in wiki page
02:33:14 <zhenguo> litao__: yes, we should make more time on docs
02:33:45 <zhenguo> we can talk about his task in next topic
02:33:58 <zhenguo> not much of announcement, anyone else have a thing here?
02:34:38 <zhenguo> if not, let's move on
02:34:44 <zhenguo> #topic task tracking
02:35:14 <zhenguo> #links https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MoganWhiteBoard
02:35:30 <zhenguo> I created a new etherpad for mogan priorities
02:39:04 <zhenguo> please check the priorties and the owner, let's try to land them all before Pike release
02:40:14 <zhenguo> zhangyang: hi, for node aggregates and server groups, do you and liudong still have time to do it?
02:41:33 <zhangyang> zhenguo: yes, we are working on it
02:41:34 <zhenguo> wanghao will help to send out our task status report every week
02:42:13 <zhenguo> zhangyang: ok, thanks, I assign the tasks to you two in the new therpad, please update it every week
02:42:33 <zhangyang> zhenguo: ok, np
02:44:12 <zhenguo> _liusheng:  I added the scheduler hints task to server groups, please check
02:44:37 <_liusheng> Ok thanks
02:45:24 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng, luyao, Xinran: I assign the valence integration task to us, please also check
02:47:41 <zhenguo> ok, anyone else have a thing here?
02:48:43 <zhenguo> #topic open discussion
02:48:57 <zhenguo> who's got a thing here
02:50:18 <zhenguo> if not, we can end the meeting
02:50:24 <zhenguo> thanks all for joining
02:50:31 <zhenguo> #endmeeting