15:00:43 <rhochmuth> #startmeeting monasca
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15:00:46 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'monasca'
15:01:02 <rhochmuth> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda
15:01:18 <rhochmuth> Agenda for Wednesday February 8 2017 (15:00 UTC)
15:01:19 <rhochmuth> 1.	Ocata Dates
15:01:19 <rhochmuth> 1.	We create stable branches. Are there any high prio changes for Ocata?
15:01:19 <rhochmuth> 2.	Ocata Final Release candidate deadline: 16 Feb
15:01:19 <rhochmuth> 2.	Monasca Mid-cycle
15:01:19 <rhochmuth> 3.	Alarms Blueprints
15:01:19 <rhochmuth> 1.	new api resource: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/alarm-manager-resource
15:01:20 <rhochmuth> 2.	grouping: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/alarm-grouping
15:01:20 <rhochmuth> 3.	silencing: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/alarm-silencing
15:01:21 <rhochmuth> 4.	inhibition: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/alarm-inhibition
15:01:21 <rhochmuth> 4. New owner for monasca-grafana fork
15:01:22 <rhochmuth> 5. Reviews
15:01:22 <rhochmuth> 5.1 => https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356403/
15:01:22 <bklei> o\
15:01:23 <rhochmuth> 5.2 => https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416325/ vs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422330
15:01:30 <rhochmuth> o/
15:01:30 <tomasztrebski> o/
15:01:32 <rbak> o/
15:01:32 <stevejims> hi
15:01:35 <cbellucci> o/
15:01:40 <rhochmuth> timasz: you made it
15:01:46 <rhochmuth> tomasz ^^^
15:01:46 <tomasztrebski> funny.... :P
15:02:01 <kamil_> o/
15:02:10 <rhochmuth> so we have a good agenda to work through today
15:02:14 <rhochmuth> again
15:02:27 <rhochmuth> so, without further delay, let's get started
15:02:37 <rhochmuth> #topic Ocata Dates
15:02:49 <rhochmuth> witek: u there?
15:02:50 <witek> we have to create stable branches
15:03:22 <rhochmuth> when is the final date again
15:03:23 <witek> has anyone high-prio changes which have to make it to Ocata?
15:03:33 <rhochmuth> good point?
15:03:46 <rhochmuth> if there are any important bug fixes this would be a good time to push them through
15:03:52 <rhochmuth> and priortize them
15:04:30 <tomasztrebski> I think you wanted psutil < 2.0.0 to enter
15:04:33 <tomasztrebski> witek, I mean
15:04:34 <rhochmuth> Is this one ready, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424242/
15:04:44 <rhochmuth> that's the psutil one?
15:04:51 <rhochmuth> i'm good on it
15:04:59 <witek> works for me
15:05:01 <rhochmuth> tomasz: are you good
15:05:15 <tomasztrebski> I did not spotted anything suspicious apart from keystone and this kafka things
15:05:33 <tomasztrebski> but again, kafka detection worked anyway even though plugin said that it did not locate kafka @ 9092 port
15:05:47 <tomasztrebski> for other issue (keystone) created a bug
15:05:57 <rhochmuth> do we hold up the merge for that
15:06:00 <tomasztrebski> so I think this is ok for now to merge it
15:06:12 <witek> it did locate, there was no IP assigned
15:06:13 <tomasztrebski> I'd add a bug to keep it in mind
15:06:21 <tomasztrebski> ahm
15:06:24 <rhochmuth> ok, i'm going to +2 then
15:06:27 <tomasztrebski> so I guess, we're fine
15:06:37 <anqi> oh so we are now talking about the changes that we have made
15:06:51 <anqi> I thought we were talking about what we are going to do
15:07:29 <witek> so, I would like to apply for stable branches tomorrow
15:07:36 <rhochmuth> anqi: we have a meeting agenda which included several things, like managing the ocata release
15:07:43 <rhochmuth> we are going to get to your topic too
15:07:58 <witek> if someone has high-prio changes, please let Roland and me know
15:08:15 <anqi> yeah I am trying to get followed
15:08:26 <rhochmuth> craig bryant has a number of bug fixes in the works
15:08:33 <rhochmuth> that are worth looking at
15:08:51 <rhochmuth> also, there is this one in works, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428810/
15:08:54 <witek> ok, I'll wait for green light then
15:09:01 <rhochmuth> how long do you have?
15:09:07 <rhochmuth> we have?
15:09:14 <witek> 16th is the deadline
15:09:32 <rhochmuth> hmm, don't want to wait until last minute
15:09:39 <witek> for final release candidate
15:09:41 <rhochmuth> but if we can get done by Friday, that would probably be OK
15:10:19 <tomasztrebski> I am trying to verify what I can...that I can say, I will put more focus on Craig's changes...maybe some of them I will be able to merge
15:10:20 <rhochmuth> that would give you on Monday a few days to get the branches created
15:10:31 <rhochmuth> thanks tomasz
15:10:33 <rhochmuth> that would be great
15:10:45 <tomasztrebski> for you....
15:10:46 <tomasztrebski> always
15:10:48 <tomasztrebski> :D
15:10:58 <rhochmuth> there is a long list of reviews, so i'll try and get through it
15:11:15 <rhochmuth> tomasz: you better be careful with all those reviews and commits
15:11:21 <rhochmuth> you could be the next ptl
15:11:35 <tomasztrebski> power....unlimited power....
15:11:35 <tomasztrebski> :D
15:11:47 <rhochmuth> ok, so let's change topics
15:12:01 <rhochmuth> #topic Monasca Mid-cycle
15:12:22 <rhochmuth> Are we still good for the 22nd and 23rd?
15:12:35 <rhochmuth> I should send out a notice to openstack-dev
15:12:36 <witek> works for me
15:12:41 <bklei> i can make the 1st day, not the 2nd
15:13:02 <bklei> but not suggesting to change dates...
15:13:08 <rhochmuth> so, another option is to splt the mid-cycle across two weeks
15:13:12 <kamil_> february?
15:13:19 <rhochmuth> correct
15:13:41 <kamil_> okay for me
15:13:42 <tomasztrebski> will it be still possible to online that ?
15:14:04 <rhochmuth> yes, it will all be online via skype/lync
15:14:08 <tomasztrebski> thx
15:14:09 <rhochmuth> video conferencing
15:14:21 <rhochmuth> start at same time IRC meeting starts
15:14:26 <rhochmuth> just goes longer in the day
15:14:41 <rhochmuth> we usually do 5 hours
15:14:53 <rhochmuth> that works out from 8 AM to 1 PM my time
15:15:19 <anqi> i can make the first two hours
15:15:27 <rhochmuth> thanks anqi
15:15:45 <rhochmuth> so, we can cover your areas earlier
15:15:57 <rhochmuth> is everyone ok with that
15:16:09 <rhochmuth> it end-up in a late night for everyone in europe
15:16:16 <rhochmuth> and even later for japan
15:16:19 <tomasztrebski> yeah, I will try to join but might be tricky for me
15:16:24 <anqi> it's fine. that will be 11 pm to 4 pm for me
15:16:29 <anqi> but if you put it earliear
15:16:37 <anqi> it won't be good for you area
15:16:44 <stevejims> fine for me (utc)
15:16:53 <anqi> 11 pm to 4 am *
15:17:08 <rhochmuth> if we start at 7 AM, then that might be better
15:17:18 <rhochmuth> i don't think we have anyone on the west coast
15:17:26 <rhochmuth> that will be attending
15:17:35 <rhochmuth> so, i can make 7 AM start time
15:17:53 <anqi> thanks for the change. would be great for me
15:17:55 <rhochmuth> which give east coaster and europeans a better start time
15:18:07 <rhochmuth> are folks ok starting earlier
15:18:13 <bklei> ok by me
15:18:28 <rhochmuth> thanks bklei, you and i are in the same timezone
15:18:35 <stevejims> yep
15:18:49 <rhochmuth> witek: does that work better for you?
15:18:53 <witek> sure
15:19:07 <rhochmuth> so, it sounds like we are good then
15:19:26 <rhochmuth> i'll send a notice
15:19:46 <rhochmuth> i believe we'll have good represenation and a lot of topics
15:20:08 <witek> will you create etherpad with agenda?
15:20:09 <rhochmuth> #topic blueprints
15:20:18 <rhochmuth> witek: yes, i will
15:20:22 <rhochmuth> thanks for reminder
15:20:22 <witek> thanks
15:20:27 <rhochmuth> i'll put that in the notice
15:21:04 <rhochmuth> so, before we cover anqi's topic, i wanted to cover the alarms blueprints
15:21:19 <rhochmuth> kaiyan and andrea: u there?
15:21:28 <Kaiyan> yes :)
15:21:30 <aadams_> yes!
15:21:37 <rhochmuth> you have the floor
15:21:51 <aadams_> We have 4 new blueprints
15:21:58 <aadams_> to implement alarm inhibition
15:22:05 <aadams_> and alarm silencing and alarm grouping
15:22:14 <Kaiyan> also adding a new resource in the api
15:22:31 <aadams_> the blueprints are still in the planing phase
15:23:01 <Kaiyan> The links are in the agenda. So if we can get some reviews on those and suggestions that would be great!
15:23:33 <rhochmuth> thanks kaiyan and aadams_m, so, this is an area that we can go into more detail at the mid-cycle
15:23:45 <rhochmuth> but, we wanted to let everyone know what is going on
15:24:10 <rhochmuth> and get early feedback if possible as they want to start writing code
15:24:36 <tomasztrebski> 1st question is: only python or also java ?
15:24:39 <rhochmuth> also, if you want to be involved in the effort, that would be good to know
15:24:46 <aadams_> we are planning on only python
15:25:17 <rhochmuth> tomasztrebski: are you interested in working on this?
15:25:46 <tomasztrebski> rhochmuth: I am, but I won't be able we got other things to attend in Fujitsu
15:26:01 <rhochmuth> :-(
15:26:06 <witek> we have to check with Cristiano
15:26:31 <rhochmuth> ok, let us know if there is interest
15:26:42 <rhochmuth> we have the time right now so would like to proceed
15:27:13 <tomasztrebski> if it was up to me, I'd code it all down [rotfl], but as Witek said, this is not our decision and Cristiano is the one who needs to be asked about that :D
15:27:16 <rhochmuth> and aadams_ and Kaiyan can cover more in a couple of weeks at mid-cycle
15:27:16 <witek> at the moment we are little blocked
15:27:47 <tomasztrebski> yeap
15:27:53 <Kaiyan> Sounds good
15:28:00 <rhochmuth> ok, let's shift over to aq
15:28:32 <rhochmuth> aq: we got your email this morning
15:28:39 <anqi> great
15:28:59 <anqi> i want to know further details about the feature
15:29:12 <rhochmuth> so, is the metric-counts bp you are interested in?
15:29:18 <anqi> yes
15:29:32 <rhochmuth> or if there was something higher priority, would that be better?
15:29:48 <anqi> ok i am checking
15:30:01 <witek> I think, I don't follow
15:30:06 <rhochmuth> i'm just trying to understand if this featyre is something you need
15:30:10 <anqi> but all of those with high prior seem to be taken
15:30:41 <anqi> no i am just trying to get started with this project
15:30:54 <rhochmuth> ok, so you looked at the list and found a bp that wasn't take that looked good
15:31:03 <anqi> so i pick a bp seems simplest to me, to get started
15:31:16 <anqi> yes
15:31:26 <rhochmuth> so, this might be an area where getting involved in some of the other work might be better
15:32:24 <anqi> do you mean kafka related work?
15:32:26 <rhochmuth> I can't quite recall why https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/count-metrics, was created
15:32:48 <anqi> ok
15:32:50 <rhochmuth> kafka would be one area
15:32:55 <rhochmuth> but that isn't a new feature
15:33:42 <anqi> yea i know. i mentioned it because i knew you were talking about some patches related to kafka just before
15:33:47 <tomasztrebski> btw...I think that bps should be reviewed becuase those bps proposed now seems strangly similar in features like the ones that are already there - muting for instance or this maintenance I think I submitted
15:34:15 <anqi> which bp do you suggest i start with?
15:34:24 <tomasztrebski> I mean if those from anqi are closer to start working on them, older might be deleted
15:34:38 <tomasztrebski> not start with, just that we might have duplicated bps in launchpad
15:35:04 <anqi> okay
15:35:05 <rhochmuth> tomasztrebski: i don't think i can delete bps
15:35:32 <tomasztrebski> rhochmuth: hmm, that's rather unfortunate
15:35:53 <rhochmuth> anqi: how about i take a look at the list more closely and we excachange some emails
15:36:03 <rhochmuth> i just wan't prepared for this discussion today
15:36:16 <anqi> great
15:36:37 <rhochmuth> if anyone comes up with a good idea/area please let us know
15:36:38 <anqi> i'll discuss it with you in email
15:36:43 <tomasztrebski> just to give an example, this => https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/maintenance-periods seems similar to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/alarm-silencing
15:37:06 <anqi> btw, are we still going to finish those bps at the bottom of the list?
15:37:15 <rhochmuth> tomasztrebski: thanks for pointing out
15:37:42 <rhochmuth> anqi: probably not
15:37:54 <rhochmuth> it isn't uncommon to create bps, and then not work on them
15:38:11 <rhochmuth> in general, that occurs quite often in OpenStack
15:38:16 <rhochmuth> at least it used too
15:38:18 <bklei> it's my specialty
15:38:25 <tomasztrebski> lol
15:38:35 <anqi> :)
15:38:37 <rhochmuth> that is why i want to sift through it and find something reasonable
15:38:48 <tomasztrebski> well...ideas are ideas, sometimes they don't work out I guess
15:38:54 <rhochmuth> anqi: u good for today?
15:38:58 <rhochmuth> and using email?
15:39:16 <anqi> sorry i cant
15:39:19 <tomasztrebski> could you guys use mailing list to keep everyone else in loop ?
15:39:26 <anqi> since it's 11:39 pm now
15:39:42 <anqi> but i will reply you as soon as i get up
15:39:52 <rhochmuth> tomasztrebski: yes
15:40:05 <rhochmuth> anqi: ok, will send some ideas your way
15:40:10 <tomasztrebski> rhochmuth: thx
15:40:12 <rhochmuth> good night
15:40:18 <anqi> ok :)
15:40:24 <tomasztrebski> sweet dreams :)
15:40:38 <anqi> haha but i am still at meeting
15:40:48 <anqi> why you are like sending me to sleep
15:40:56 <rhochmuth> thanks Kaiyan, aadams and anqi
15:40:56 <tomasztrebski> ups...
15:41:00 <rhochmuth> will move on to next topic
15:41:05 <rhochmuth> #topic New owner for monasca-grafana fork
15:41:09 <rhochmuth> uhhh ohhh
15:41:13 <rbak> That's mine
15:41:28 <rbak> Charter has owned the grafana fork with keystone auth.
15:41:37 <rbak> But we won't be working on Grafana anymore
15:41:42 <stevejims> :(
15:41:45 <rbak> So we need someone else to take that.
15:42:03 <rhochmuth> how soon?
15:42:17 <tomasztrebski> and now nightmares
15:42:54 <bklei> the sooner the better, we're moving on to greener pastures
15:43:17 <dhague> I can pick that up for now
15:43:17 <rhochmuth> ok, i'll look for a new home
15:43:33 <rhochmuth> dhague: awesome
15:43:40 <dhague> We have sapcc/grafana with our extras on top of rbak's stuff anyway
15:43:42 <rhochmuth> thank you
15:43:58 <rbak> dhague: Thanks for doing that. If you need anything from me let me know.
15:44:09 <witek> thank you dhague
15:44:11 <tomasztrebski> does it mean transferring twc-openstack/grafana to new home ?
15:44:26 <bklei> for sure
15:44:43 <rhochmuth> rbak and bklei: how far did you go with grafana discussion and better integration?
15:44:55 <dhague> just update the README.md at twc-openstack to refer to sapcc/grafana and we're good
15:44:57 <rbak> Not much farther than you were involved in
15:44:57 <rhochmuth> we also have some interest in this area
15:45:01 <tomasztrebski> well, from devstack POV that will be just changing repo URL, so kind of transparent
15:45:29 <rbak> devstack and docs are probably the only changes we need
15:46:29 <rbak> dhague: Do you want to make those changes?
15:46:48 <stevejims> Will you guys still be involved in the datasource plugin? My current work may involve extending it
15:47:04 <dhague> rbak: if you could point me to where to make the changes via email, I'll make it happen
15:47:14 <rbak> Sounds good, I'll do that.
15:47:40 <dhague> on a related note, I guess we heard nothing new from Raintank this year?
15:47:43 <bklei> stevejims no, we'll pull back from that too
15:47:44 <rbak> stevejims: We won't be involved in grafana at all.  The datasource is in the open stack repo though so that should be a problem
15:48:13 <rbak> One bit of good Grafana news, the monasca plugin is now published and official. https://grafana.net/plugins/monasca-datasource
15:48:29 <rhochmuth> dhague: Raintank is now Grafana Labs
15:48:39 <stevejims> OK thanks
15:48:51 <stevejims> good news about the plugin being published too
15:49:12 <rhochmuth> rbak: thanks, that looks good
15:49:33 <rhochmuth> so, we've been exchanging some emails with Grafna Labs
15:50:10 <rhochmuth> i'm hoping that we will proceed with additional integration of monasca into grafana
15:50:26 <rhochmuth> but, we aren't exactly a start-up
15:50:43 <rhochmuth> so, these disucssion take a litlle time to work through
15:51:09 <rhochmuth> i'll keep folks informed as we proceed
15:51:29 <rhochmuth> and now that charter isn't involved, this will be more important
15:52:09 <stevejims> i may revisit this bp as a fallback for our client: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/grafana-auth-workarounds
15:53:15 <rhochmuth> in that case, where does the username/password go
15:53:21 <rhochmuth> is it in a config file?
15:53:42 <stevejims> in the datasource config screen - it is how the gnocchi datasource works
15:54:07 <rhochmuth> stevejims: thanks
15:54:25 <rhochmuth> agree, that might be a good fallback
15:54:29 <rhochmuth> to have
15:54:51 <rhochmuth> ok, so are we ok with that topic
15:54:53 <stevejims> I'm happy to take a look
15:55:16 <rhochmuth> thanks rbak and bklei for all your great work!!!
15:55:36 <stevejims> yes, thank you both
15:55:40 <witek> yes, it's a pitty
15:56:29 <bklei> it's been fun!
15:56:32 <rhochmuth> thanks dhague for taking it over
15:56:50 <rhochmuth> yes, it has been fun!
15:57:31 <rhochmuth> #topic review
15:57:40 <rhochmuth> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356403/
15:57:47 <rhochmuth> is it ready?
15:57:52 <rhochmuth> i didn't get to this last week
15:57:54 <rhochmuth> sorry
15:58:37 <rhochmuth> tomasz: artur says it is ready to go
15:59:37 <witek> I didn't manage to test it last days
15:59:50 <rhochmuth> i haven't tested either
15:59:57 <rhochmuth> my next chance will be tonight
16:00:21 <rhochmuth> i'll also comment on the other two reviews that are competing for who foes first
16:00:27 <rhochmuth> i think i need to end meeting
16:00:33 <rhochmuth> will send out mid-cycle details
16:00:40 <rhochmuth> coordinate with anqi
16:00:43 <rhochmuth> thanks everyone
16:00:48 <tomasztrebski> ok, thanks anyway :)
16:00:49 <rhochmuth> thanks rbak and bklei
16:00:49 <witek> thank you
16:00:51 <kamil_> thank you
16:00:55 <tomasztrebski> just wanted to get it merged before ocata and/or new features that include db mods
16:01:03 <rhochmuth> #endmeeting