15:01:10 <rhochmuth> #startmeeting monasca
15:01:11 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Feb 15 15:01:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:01:15 <rhochmuth> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda
15:01:16 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'monasca'
15:01:35 <rhochmuth> Agenda for Wednesday February 15 2017 (15:00 UTC)
15:01:36 <rhochmuth> 1.	Log-Agent has been merged by Logstash: https://github.com/logstash-plugins/logstash-output-monasca_log_api
15:01:36 <rhochmuth> 2.	Log Query Initial Design: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Monasca/Logging/Query_API_Design#Design:_Log_Listing
15:01:36 <rhochmuth> 1.	API Proposal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433016/
15:01:36 <rhochmuth> 3.	The logos are here, the logos are here
15:01:36 <rhochmuth> 1.	https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yigfsgvpzxz4t72/AABHPm5FOoBFv2Q-div_j9RXa?dl=0
15:01:36 <rhochmuth> 4.	Grafana transition
15:01:37 <dhague> o/
15:01:37 <rhochmuth> 5.	Mid-cycle Planning
15:01:37 <rhochmuth> 6.	Ocata release branch
15:01:43 <rhochmuth> o/
15:01:47 <kamil_> o/
15:01:48 <rhochmuth> hello everyone
15:01:49 <hosanai> o/
15:01:50 <rbak> o/
15:01:50 <cbellucci> o/
15:01:56 <stevejims> o/
15:02:06 <wanghuagong> o/
15:02:14 <witek> hi
15:02:32 <rhochmuth> so, maybe we should first talk about our build
15:02:55 <rhochmuth> looks like monasca-api is still broken
15:03:20 <witek> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433821/
15:03:22 <witek> is merged
15:03:33 <witek> the python gate works
15:03:36 <rhochmuth> ohh cool
15:03:38 <rhochmuth> it's fixed
15:03:43 <rhochmuth> hadn't seen that yet
15:04:00 <witek> I have bumped though version numbers for java
15:04:09 <witek> and they are not merged yet
15:04:27 <witek> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:java_version
15:05:00 <rhochmuth> ok, so are we just waiting on zuul at this point?
15:05:02 <witek> they have to go in the right order
15:05:16 <witek> thresh is next, then persister and api
15:05:41 <rhochmuth> ok, feel free to merge when ready
15:05:47 <rhochmuth> don't wait for me
15:05:51 <witek> ok, thanks
15:06:02 <witek> the gates take ages
15:06:32 <rhochmuth> ok, so it look like we are back online, waiting for CI
15:07:00 <rhochmuth> should we start the agenda then?
15:07:01 <rhochmuth> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda
15:07:33 <kamil_> The logstash-output-monasca_log_api has been merged into the logstash repository
15:07:45 <kamil_> it is now part of logstash output plugins
15:08:06 <rhochmuth> That is awesome, congratulations!
15:08:42 <kamil_> Thanks. I just wanted to inform folks about that. That's all
15:08:50 <rhochmuth> thx kamil_
15:08:58 <witek> we almost forgot about it ;)
15:09:09 <rhochmuth> was that in flight for about 6 mos?
15:09:30 <kamil_> yes
15:09:47 <rhochmuth> wow, that is a while, but perseverance prevailed, once again
15:10:44 <rhochmuth> #topic Log Query Initial Design
15:10:52 <rhochmuth> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Monasca/Logging/Query_API_Design#Design:_Log_Listing
15:10:53 <bklei> \o sorry i'm late
15:11:11 <rhochmuth> do you have a pass from the office
15:11:30 <bklei> looking for it made me even later :)
15:11:36 <rhochmuth> np bklei, we are glad you are here?
15:12:02 <bklei> nice to be wanted
15:12:18 <rhochmuth> so, is mr. steve simpson here?
15:12:51 <stevejims> Hi, Just wanted to stimulate some feedback for the log query API, now it's at first pass
15:13:07 <rhochmuth> thanks stevejims
15:13:11 <stevejims> Have an API proposal in flight and we've been making some headway
15:13:12 <witek> thanks
15:13:32 <rhochmuth> stevejims: so we want to cover this next week in the mid-cycle too
15:13:44 <rhochmuth> so between now and then i'll sstart reviewing
15:13:56 <rhochmuth> and start supplygin feedback, which i admit, i'm behind on
15:14:09 <rhochmuth> but, what day would you like to cover this for the mid-cycle
15:14:14 <stevejims> that would be grand
15:14:19 <rhochmuth> wednesday or thursday?
15:14:28 <stevejims> no preference
15:14:42 <rhochmuth> so, let's do first thing on thursday morning then
15:15:05 <rhochmuth> the mid-cycle agenda is at, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_ocata_midcycle
15:16:19 <stevejims> sounds good to me
15:16:59 <rhochmuth> sorry, i just updated the agenda
15:17:05 <rhochmuth> took a little longer than expected
15:17:13 <stevejims> also thanks to witek and tomasz for reviewing the API so far
15:17:20 <rhochmuth> but you are up for Thursday first session
15:17:31 <rhochmuth> thanks witek and tomasz
15:17:57 <witek> you're welcome, there are still some open questions
15:18:33 <rhochmuth> so, i'll move onto the next topic
15:18:42 <rhochmuth> #topic The logos are here, the logos are here
15:18:48 <rhochmuth> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yigfsgvpzxz4t72/AABHPm5FOoBFv2Q-div_j9RXa?dl=0
15:18:48 <witek> nice
15:19:13 <dhague> cool
15:19:42 <Kuckkuck> +1
15:19:52 <rhochmuth> Those logos come courtesy of, Heidi Joy Tretheway, Senior Marketing Manager, OpenStack Foundation
15:20:17 <rhochmuth> We can use them on presentations and wherever else we would like to add some team flair.
15:20:52 <rhochmuth> #topic Grafana transition
15:21:21 <rhochmuth> bklei, rbak, jbors: any updates on the Grafana transition to a new home?
15:21:39 <dhague> I have a handover email from Ryan, but I've been away for a few days and haven't actioned the changes (2 of them) yet
15:21:48 <rbak> Nothing new on my end.
15:22:10 <rhochmuth> dhague: thx
15:22:28 <dhague> In Grafana-related news, Go 1.8 is released tomorrow and has support for plugins (Linux-only right now)
15:22:34 <rhochmuth> no rush, just didn't want it to get forgotten or fall through the gaps
15:22:58 <dhague> Given that the Grafana folks wanted to implement pluggaable authentication, this is a good step in the right direction
15:23:10 <rhochmuth> cool, maybe we'll see some changes in how grafana is structured as a result
15:23:16 <rhochmuth> yes, i agree
15:23:42 <rhochmuth> btw, we are continuing our discussion with grafana, but i don't have any updates other than that at the moment
15:24:32 <rhochmuth> #topic Mid-cycle Planning
15:24:46 <rhochmuth> any preferences for days and/or times
15:25:04 <rhochmuth> bklei you had mentioned i believe that you are only agailable on wednesdy
15:25:11 <bklei> correct
15:25:21 <rhochmuth> which topics are most interesting to you then?
15:25:34 <bklei> getting my next job
15:25:59 <witek> bklei: ?
15:26:32 <rhochmuth> greener pastures is code for ..
15:26:47 <bklei> i wouldn't re-arrange anything on my behalf -- i'll attend what i can, would like to be part of discussions about alarm muting -- we were going to want that before they decided to shut us down
15:27:27 <bklei> witek charter is decommissioning our private openstack cloud :(
15:27:43 <rhochmuth> ok, i figured some of the alarm silencing, inhibition and grouping would be important
15:30:04 <rhochmuth> so, i've updated teh agenda a bit
15:30:14 <rhochmuth> metrics related topics on wednesday
15:30:22 <rhochmuth> logging and events related topics on thursday
15:30:31 <rhochmuth> is how it is starting to organize right now
15:31:05 <rhochmuth> it will take a little more organization
15:31:14 <rhochmuth> Agent plugins on Wednesday
15:31:25 <rhochmuth> and Docker, Kubernetes and Helm on THursday too
15:31:32 <rhochmuth> i hope that looks ok
15:31:43 <rhochmuth> we can still organize
15:32:07 <bklei> is ^ in an etherpad yet?
15:32:20 <rhochmuth> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_ocata_midcycle
15:32:24 <bklei> thx
15:32:30 <jobrs> thanks
15:32:34 <rhochmuth> of-course it is, i've never been so insulted
15:32:41 <rhochmuth> :-)
15:32:54 <bklei> ;)
15:33:21 <rhochmuth> please let me know if there are issues with time/organization and we can rearrange
15:33:33 <rhochmuth> that will probably be the first topic we cover on wednesday
15:34:00 <rhochmuth> #topic Ocata release branch
15:34:08 <rhochmuth> witek: i added this topic
15:34:18 <rhochmuth> just wanted to make sure you are ok and have everthing you need
15:34:34 <rhochmuth> now that the build is working again, i'm hoping that you are all clear
15:34:37 <witek> I started branching yesterday
15:34:54 <rhochmuth> yup, i've added several +1's
15:34:58 <witek> still waiting for a couple of repos
15:35:01 <rhochmuth> thanks for doing that
15:35:11 <witek> no problem
15:35:22 <rhochmuth> ok, let us know if you run into any issues or need anything
15:35:33 <witek> thanks, I'll do
15:36:24 <rhochmuth> so, that was all the agenda that i had
15:36:30 <rhochmuth> i can open it up to the floor
15:36:35 <rhochmuth> #topic open floor
15:37:54 <stevejims> I have a minor topic
15:37:59 <rhochmuth> sure
15:38:33 <rhochmuth> stevejims: you have the floor
15:38:54 <stevejims> I've been asked to give the same talk I gave at PGDay/FOSDEM at another Postgres conference on March 23rd in Paris
15:39:17 <rhochmuth> excellent
15:39:21 <stevejims> It is about monitoring openstack, has some mentions of Monasca
15:39:22 <rhochmuth> congratulations
15:40:01 <rhochmuth> ahh, that reminds me, i thought you were going to give us an overview of your presentation
15:40:09 <rhochmuth> is that available on youtube or somewhere
15:40:15 <stevejims> Mostly about an experiment we have been doing to see if Postgres could be a backend for Monasca, so kinda in "R&D" stage
15:40:31 <rhochmuth> yes, very interested in your learnings
15:40:46 <rhochmuth> that could be another topics for the mid-cycle, btw
15:40:58 <stevejims> Yes I was wondering the best way to do that, the talk is very much geared towards a Postgres audience
15:41:28 <stevejims> Was considering writing a Wiki page geared towards Monasca audience with our findings on perhaps
15:42:38 <rhochmuth> sounds like an excellent idea
15:42:48 <rhochmuth> are you looking for a place to host it
15:42:57 <rhochmuth> the only suggestion i have is on the monasca wiki
15:43:18 <rhochmuth> but, that usually isn't the best spot for these types of discussions
15:43:30 <rhochmuth> sounds like an excellent topic for a blog
15:44:20 <rhochmuth> we could also schedule a separate vidoe conference session to cover that topic
15:44:34 <rhochmuth> looking at the agenda for the mid-cycle i'm getting a little worried about time
15:44:39 <stevejims> Wiki is fine, or yes my employer was keen to put it up as a blog I think, I'll work something out
15:45:14 <rhochmuth> Were the results good?
15:46:49 <stevejims> So far yes - up to a certain scale. We do some pre-aggregation to get the performance but it's very simple
15:47:30 <stevejims> We think it could monitor up to 800 nodes with a very underpowered box, we have tested 80 so far
15:47:39 <stevejims> maybe higher.
15:47:50 <rhochmuth> are you monitoring VMs too?
15:47:58 <rhochmuth> or just the physical nodes?
15:48:22 <stevejims> Some but it's not the primary use case for our deployment
15:48:46 <stevejims> HPC use case is usually fewer, more heavyweight VMs, or bare-metal
15:49:30 <rhochmuth> i see, if you want to review with monasca team, then probably a separate video conference would be best
15:49:41 <rhochmuth> but, i think we would all be interested in your anlaysis
15:49:52 <rhochmuth> so looking forward to it
15:49:59 <stevejims> sure, happy to arrange that
15:50:22 <bklei> i'd like to see that too!
15:50:37 <rhochmuth> let's talk about that at the mid-cycle, since everyone should be there, and then schedule a time for the presentation
15:51:43 <rhochmuth> ok, i'm going to shut er down
15:51:50 <rhochmuth> if no more topics
15:52:12 <rhochmuth> going once
15:52:29 <rhochmuth> gone
15:52:31 <rhochmuth> by everyone
15:52:36 <rhochmuth> #endmeeting