14:00:43 <rhochmuth> #startmeeting monasca 14:00:44 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jul 19 14:00:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:45 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:47 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' 14:00:50 <rhochmuth> o/ 14:01:03 <koji> o/ 14:01:20 <shinya_kwbt> o/ 14:01:41 <kornica> o/ 14:01:43 <rhochmuth> hi everyone 14:01:50 <Fdaisuke> o/ 14:02:15 <kornica> hello 14:02:26 <sc> yo 14:02:26 <rhochmuth> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda 14:02:36 <rhochmuth> Agenda for Wednesday July 19 2017 (14:00 UTC) 14:02:36 <rhochmuth> 1. Reviews 14:02:37 <rhochmuth> 1. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479169/ - Needs +1 to move forward and to start reenabling the gates (Added by Artur Basiak, unfortunatelly I cannot join meeting) 14:02:37 <rhochmuth> 2. monasca-docker 14:02:37 <rhochmuth> 1. https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/pull/121 14:02:37 <rhochmuth> 2. https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/pull/120 14:02:37 <rhochmuth> 3. https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/issues/122 14:02:48 <rhochmuth> not a huge agenda for the day 14:02:54 <rhochmuth> but, we can work through it 14:03:16 <rhochmuth> #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479169/ 14:03:39 <kornica> I can take it, Artur has some apartment stuff or sth going on these days 14:04:30 <kornica> in overall, Witek wanted you to take a look and approve the cleanup, that said - the change is more or less dropping old codebase and adding all of the tooling 14:04:37 <kornica> we've developed recently for other components 14:05:24 <rhochmuth> ok, i'll look through and add a +1 14:05:39 <rhochmuth> although, my time lately has been difficult 14:05:45 <kornica> if you want there are already 3 related changes 14:06:00 <kornica> from which the most notable is an idea of extending monasca-persister to handle events 14:06:08 <kornica> persisting raw events into database 14:06:22 <kornica> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485113/ 14:06:40 <kornica> I know that having a time is difficult these days (oh...yeah...I know that) 14:06:54 <kornica> still we know this is vital to have such details communicated 14:07:11 <rhochmuth> yup 14:07:23 <kornica> other side of the coing is the idea of adding new project 14:07:23 <rhochmuth> so, you are planning on extending the persister, rather than add a new one 14:07:37 <kornica> we had such a plan initially 14:07:58 <kornica> but witek stepped in (no offense or sth) in a pretty much correct momement to point out 14:08:09 <kornica> that basically we might not need new repo / service 14:08:14 <kornica> but we can extend persister 14:08:27 <kornica> and roll with the idea I presented in comments for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485113/ 14:08:27 <rhochmuth> i see, so witek is in charge now 14:08:34 <rhochmuth> :-) 14:08:41 <kornica> he's not in charge 14:08:41 <kornica> :D 14:08:57 <kornica> though we've been talking a lot how to approach the events topic 14:09:00 <kornica> the best way we could 14:09:05 <rhochmuth> i'm just kidding 14:09:11 <kornica> i know ;-) 14:09:20 <kornica> just giving some background :D 14:09:33 <kornica> anyway, if could you find some time to tell which idea might be better 14:09:38 <kornica> that'd be really great ;-0 14:09:40 <kornica> :) 14:09:45 <rhochmuth> sure 14:09:52 <rhochmuth> i probably would have said keep them separate 14:10:04 <rhochmuth> however, everytime we add a new repo it is a lot of overhead 14:10:16 <rhochmuth> so, not exactly for adding more overhead 14:10:38 <rhochmuth> so, i'm probably ok with that in the persister 14:10:41 <kornica> that's pretty much the argument that Witek has given 14:10:56 <kornica> question is should be do the same for every other part of events :/ 14:11:00 <kornica> and that is somehow unclear 14:11:09 <rhochmuth> you can get caried away with microservices 14:11:19 <kornica> there are benefits of such approach 14:11:22 <kornica> and there re downsides 14:11:26 <rhochmuth> yup 14:11:29 <kornica> yeah, that'd be the downside 14:11:41 <kornica> I will ask then 14:11:45 <rhochmuth> i see, so are think thinking about adding to the monasca-api directly then too 14:11:56 <kornica> well yeah 14:11:57 <rhochmuth> would that be still under consideration? 14:12:11 <kornica> if you see this as better idea, yeah - we would reconsider 14:12:24 <kornica> at the moment events-api is on hold 14:12:34 <kornica> no gates, no CI - pretty much dead repo 14:12:55 <rhochmuth> yup, lot's of fun enabliing all that infrastructure too 14:13:01 <kornica> we can either go direction we are now going 14:13:11 <kornica> or retire the project 14:13:28 <rhochmuth> let's ask witek 14:13:38 <kornica> he will most likely read all that 14:13:45 <kornica> and we decided to talk about all that 14:14:18 <kornica> so most likely we will continue with current approach and if necessary just port all that to exisiting repos 14:14:23 <rhochmuth> i'm going to have to think a bit off-line and look closer at what you've done so far 14:14:31 <rhochmuth> and talk to a few folks 14:14:39 <kornica> nevertheless I am sure we will try and communicate 14:14:43 <rhochmuth> sure 14:14:57 <kornica> though I am not really into events now (my priorities goes to other items on agenda) :D 14:15:09 <kornica> but I will ask arturb to put some focus on that fact 14:15:15 <rhochmuth> ok 14:15:25 <kornica> and thx for having a look 14:15:27 <rhochmuth> i'll send an email 14:15:59 <rhochmuth> so, probably time to move to the next topic 14:16:15 <rhochmuth> #topic monasca-docker 14:16:16 <rhochmuth> 2. monasca-docker 14:16:16 <rhochmuth> 1. https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/pull/121 14:16:16 <rhochmuth> 2. https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/pull/120 14:16:16 <rhochmuth> 3. https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/issues/122 14:16:48 <kornica> well, we started working on log-pipeline in docker (finally decided on container course in fujitsu ;P) 14:16:53 <hoppalm> woohooo!!! 14:16:54 <rhochmuth> this looks really exciting 14:17:08 <kornica> and in overall figured that we want to get on board with y'all :D 14:17:26 <rhochmuth> i see timothyb89 has been working on it 14:17:30 <kornica> for now we've just have mainly #121 (log-pipeline extension) 14:17:34 <kornica> couple of ideas 14:17:38 <rhochmuth> witek gave me a heads-up last week 14:18:01 <kornica> so I am sure he might have mentioned that we want to contribute to monasca-helm as well ? 14:18:45 <rhochmuth> sounds good 14:18:57 <kornica> yeah, it's just helm is much tougher nut to crack :D 14:19:26 <hoppalm> if you need any help or want us to walk you through it we would be happy to 14:19:29 <kornica> well, at leat today, was first time I sat and tried to write sth...ended up trying something already there 14:19:54 <kornica> we've got a gist list of activites/features/changes we would like to apply to monasca-docker 14:20:01 <kornica> but we're still consolidating that internally 14:20:33 <kornica> those would be the things we consider important to have but shouldn't conflict too much with your idea 14:20:36 <kornica> *idea 14:20:49 <kornica> hoppalm: thx - for start a reviews of images I've written would be great 14:20:59 <hoppalm> yes we can do that 14:21:15 <hoppalm> we will look at the two docker prs 14:21:27 <kornica> there is one breaking point there, but I've put that point into comments under #121 14:21:35 <sc> I did some test with odcker 14:21:47 <hoppalm> yes travis always lacks behind on docker version 14:21:52 <sc> I changed the order of box creation 14:21:53 <hoppalm> we can try to manually upgrade it 14:22:40 <hoppalm> we have been thinking about switching to multistage build 14:22:44 <hoppalm> for some of our stuff 14:22:46 <kornica> hoppalm: actually I was referring to the kafka topics creation (my idea was to make log-pipeline an extension without affecting docker-compose.yml which in overall is metric pipeline) 14:23:03 <kornica> hoppalm: I already have this for kibana (but as you saw it requires newer docker) 14:23:33 <hoppalm> ohhh okay yes I will go through it with Tim and we will review it 14:23:52 <kornica> hoppalm: big thumb up and high five :D 14:24:00 <kornica> sc: what about box order ? 14:24:32 <sc> kornica: I changed the order in docker-compose 14:25:01 <kornica> you have any code ? at least me - well I am not sure I understand what that means :D 14:25:19 <sc> I just put mysql up, it looks to me it speads up setup 14:25:43 <sc> kornica: OK, I'll share ASAP 14:26:33 <kornica> ah ok :) 14:26:45 <hoppalm> probably did as multiple things need to talk to it so the sooner it comes up the better, and please put up any changes you think are good 14:26:48 <hoppalm> and we will look 14:26:56 <kornica> sure 14:27:13 <kornica> ok, I think I've exhausted the topic - nice to see that you're happy with that contribution 14:28:22 <kornica> I have one openstack-reviews item in my agenda, that I did not post but figured now it is worth discussing 14:29:20 <kornica> unless someone has anything to add about sth else, I could just elaborate on that 14:29:30 <rhochmuth> you have the floor 14:30:52 <kornica> the changes I wanted to mentioned are about inhibit,silencing and grouping 14:31:00 <rhochmuth> oh 14:31:05 <kornica> I had to -2 one of them as it would break the CI 14:31:22 <kornica> but apperently there is now nobody who would adress that :/ 14:31:51 <kornica> I mean, is that really that bad of situation from HPE side that such promissing features are left behind ;-( 14:31:53 <kornica> ? 14:32:07 <rhochmuth> we haven't left it behind 14:32:26 <kornica> similar comments goes to monasca-agent mods that, for example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448895/ 14:32:52 <kornica> oh...I mean, as reviewer, I am not quite sure what else apart from pinging owner we could do 14:33:14 <kornica> -2 is pretty strong, but breaking CI was never sth that we were accepting 14:34:14 <hoppalm> we are planning on finishing it as it is a feature important to us we want 14:34:24 <kornica> it's just the time ? 14:34:29 <rhochmuth> andrea has been out? 14:34:45 <rhochmuth> so, we are trying to figure out how to address/load-balance this on the team 14:34:51 <kornica> well, 've given this -2 over 2 weeks from now 14:35:56 <kornica> I mean, please don't get me wrong or anything like that - just trying to finally understand what should we expect in upstream 14:37:15 <rhochmuth> not sure how to address right now as the developer is not around 14:37:28 <rhochmuth> so, we've been trying to address this 14:38:31 <kornica> maybe someone (you, I believe would be the best guy) or someone else, could just go through open changes 14:38:35 <kornica> abandon what is really not needed 14:38:46 <kornica> mark needed changes with -1@W 14:39:19 <rhochmuth> yeah, we had talked about that a few months ago 14:39:27 <rhochmuth> but, i wouldn't abandon these changes 14:39:54 <rhochmuth> for alarm inhibition, silencing, ... 14:40:39 <kornica> that's out of a question - those should be left for future work 14:40:59 <kornica> what about agent mods around container monitoring ? 14:41:53 <rhochmuth> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448895/ 14:41:58 <hoppalm> so i need to go through them again 14:42:13 <kornica> hoppalm: thx 14:42:19 <hoppalm> it was during the time when we were trying to learn what we want for kubernetes monitoring 14:42:47 <kornica> might be that now, that I finally have k8s and docker functional at my workstatation (finally off the proxy hook, yeah) 14:42:58 <kornica> I will be able to properly test those 14:43:22 <hoppalm> sweeet :) if you see gaps in our container monitoring let us know as well 14:43:29 <kornica> sure :D 14:43:45 <kornica> the only thing I would most certainly need would have them rebased by author :D 14:43:59 <kornica> later hopefully I will be smart enough to understand them and test them 14:43:59 <kornica> :D 14:44:19 <hoppalm> :) 14:44:23 <rhochmuth> btw, on another topic, has anyone from fujitsu thought about, https://www.netways.de/nocache/en/events/osmc/cfp/ 14:44:41 <rhochmuth> deadline is uly 31st 14:44:42 <kornica> BTW: I've noticed that in helm repo you;ve been referring to minikube 14:44:46 <kornica> having that said - https://github.com/kornicameister/journeys/tree/master/kubernetes/scripts 14:44:54 <kornica> those might be come in handy for you ;-) 14:45:01 <kornica> that;s for kubeadm 14:45:31 <kornica> rhochmuth: I will ping rest of my team 14:45:51 <kornica> rhochmuth: thx 14:46:25 <rhochmuth> thx kornica 14:46:38 <rhochmuth> i need to run to another meeting right now 14:46:43 <rhochmuth> i know weird time 14:46:44 <hoppalm> oh sweet 14:46:56 <kornica> hoppalm: kubeadm scripts ? 14:46:56 <rhochmuth> can someone end the meeting when done 14:47:04 <hoppalm> oyeah 14:47:06 <kornica> I think someone should know how :D 14:48:03 <hoppalm> anything else from anyone? 14:48:04 <kornica> hoppalm: I am using those everyday since I wrote them (or rather reforged knowledge of my collegue associated with kubernetes-dashboard project :D) 14:48:16 <kornica> hoppalm: so they should be fine enough 14:48:36 <kornica> hoppalm: from my side - no 14:48:48 <hoppalm> cool anyone else or good to end meeting? 14:49:48 <hoppalm> ill take that as a no 14:49:54 <hoppalm> #endmeeting 14:49:55 <kornica> it's a trap 14:50:08 <hoppalm> dangit whats the exact command :) 14:50:28 <kornica> #endmeeting 14:50:34 <kornica> that should be it 14:50:42 <kornica> witek used that last time :D 14:50:47 <hoppalm> #end-meeting 14:50:49 <hoppalm> :) 14:50:52 <kornica> just copied and pasted here 14:50:57 <hoppalm> hoepfully it doesnt require roland to do it 14:50:58 <kornica> rotfl.... 14:51:15 <hoppalm> let me send him a pm 14:51:23 <kornica> hmmm....ok...so how many developers you need to end the meeting 14:51:35 <rbrndt> n+1 developers 14:53:11 <kornica> #endmeeting 14:53:19 <kornica> ok, this has to be the correct command 14:53:24 <kornica> just checked other meeting logs 14:53:34 <kornica> I am out of juice to end meeting ;/ 14:53:36 <rhochmuth> #endmeeting