14:00:43 #startmeeting monasca 14:00:44 Meeting started Wed Jul 19 14:00:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:45 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:47 The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' 14:00:50 o/ 14:01:03 o/ 14:01:20 o/ 14:01:41 o/ 14:01:43 hi everyone 14:01:50 o/ 14:02:15 hello 14:02:26 yo 14:02:26 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda 14:02:36 Agenda for Wednesday July 19 2017 (14:00 UTC) 14:02:36 1. Reviews 14:02:37 1. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479169/  - Needs +1 to move forward and to start reenabling  the gates (Added by Artur Basiak, unfortunatelly I cannot join meeting) 14:02:37 2. monasca-docker 14:02:37 1. https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/pull/121 14:02:37 2. https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/pull/120 14:02:37 3. https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/issues/122 14:02:48 not a huge agenda for the day 14:02:54 but, we can work through it 14:03:16 #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479169/ 14:03:39 I can take it, Artur has some apartment stuff or sth going on these days 14:04:30 in overall, Witek wanted you to take a look and approve the cleanup, that said - the change is more or less dropping old codebase and adding all of the tooling 14:04:37 we've developed recently for other components 14:05:24 ok, i'll look through and add a +1 14:05:39 although, my time lately has been difficult 14:05:45 if you want there are already 3 related changes 14:06:00 from which the most notable is an idea of extending monasca-persister to handle events 14:06:08 persisting raw events into database 14:06:22 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485113/ 14:06:40 I know that having a time is difficult these days (oh...yeah...I know that) 14:06:54 still we know this is vital to have such details communicated 14:07:11 yup 14:07:23 other side of the coing is the idea of adding new project 14:07:23 so, you are planning on extending the persister, rather than add a new one 14:07:37 we had such a plan initially 14:07:58 but witek stepped in (no offense or sth) in a pretty much correct momement to point out 14:08:09 that basically we might not need new repo / service 14:08:14 but we can extend persister 14:08:27 and roll with the idea I presented in comments for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485113/ 14:08:27 i see, so witek is in charge now 14:08:34 :-) 14:08:41 he's not in charge 14:08:41 :D 14:08:57 though we've been talking a lot how to approach the events topic 14:09:00 the best way we could 14:09:05 i'm just kidding 14:09:11 i know ;-) 14:09:20 just giving some background :D 14:09:33 anyway, if could you find some time to tell which idea might be better 14:09:38 that'd be really great ;-0 14:09:40 :) 14:09:45 sure 14:09:52 i probably would have said keep them separate 14:10:04 however, everytime we add a new repo it is a lot of overhead 14:10:16 so, not exactly for adding more overhead 14:10:38 so, i'm probably ok with that in the persister 14:10:41 that's pretty much the argument that Witek has given 14:10:56 question is should be do the same for every other part of events :/ 14:11:00 and that is somehow unclear 14:11:09 you can get caried away with microservices 14:11:19 there are benefits of such approach 14:11:22 and there re downsides 14:11:26 yup 14:11:29 yeah, that'd be the downside 14:11:41 I will ask then 14:11:45 i see, so are think thinking about adding to the monasca-api directly then too 14:11:56 well yeah 14:11:57 would that be still under consideration? 14:12:11 if you see this as better idea, yeah - we would reconsider 14:12:24 at the moment events-api is on hold 14:12:34 no gates, no CI - pretty much dead repo 14:12:55 yup, lot's of fun enabliing all that infrastructure too 14:13:01 we can either go direction we are now going 14:13:11 or retire the project 14:13:28 let's ask witek 14:13:38 he will most likely read all that 14:13:45 and we decided to talk about all that 14:14:18 so most likely we will continue with current approach and if necessary just port all that to exisiting repos 14:14:23 i'm going to have to think a bit off-line and look closer at what you've done so far 14:14:31 and talk to a few folks 14:14:39 nevertheless I am sure we will try and communicate 14:14:43 sure 14:14:57 though I am not really into events now (my priorities goes to other items on agenda) :D 14:15:09 but I will ask arturb to put some focus on that fact 14:15:15 ok 14:15:25 and thx for having a look 14:15:27 i'll send an email 14:15:59 so, probably time to move to the next topic 14:16:15 #topic monasca-docker 14:16:16 2. monasca-docker 14:16:16 1. https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/pull/121 14:16:16 2. https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/pull/120 14:16:16 3. https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/issues/122 14:16:48 well, we started working on log-pipeline in docker (finally decided on container course in fujitsu ;P) 14:16:53 woohooo!!! 14:16:54 this looks really exciting 14:17:08 and in overall figured that we want to get on board with y'all :D 14:17:26 i see timothyb89 has been working on it 14:17:30 for now we've just have mainly #121 (log-pipeline extension) 14:17:34 couple of ideas 14:17:38 witek gave me a heads-up last week 14:18:01 so I am sure he might have mentioned that we want to contribute to monasca-helm as well ? 14:18:45 sounds good 14:18:57 yeah, it's just helm is much tougher nut to crack :D 14:19:26 if you need any help or want us to walk you through it we would be happy to 14:19:29 well, at leat today, was first time I sat and tried to write sth...ended up trying something already there 14:19:54 we've got a gist list of activites/features/changes we would like to apply to monasca-docker 14:20:01 but we're still consolidating that internally 14:20:33 those would be the things we consider important to have but shouldn't conflict too much with your idea 14:20:36 *idea 14:20:49 hoppalm: thx - for start a reviews of images I've written would be great 14:20:59 yes we can do that 14:21:15 we will look at the two docker prs 14:21:27 there is one breaking point there, but I've put that point into comments under #121 14:21:35 I did some test with odcker 14:21:47 yes travis always lacks behind on docker version 14:21:52 I changed the order of box creation 14:21:53 we can try to manually upgrade it 14:22:40 we have been thinking about switching to multistage build 14:22:44 for some of our stuff 14:22:46 hoppalm: actually I was referring to the kafka topics creation (my idea was to make log-pipeline an extension without affecting docker-compose.yml which in overall is metric pipeline) 14:23:03 hoppalm: I already have this for kibana (but as you saw it requires newer docker) 14:23:33 ohhh okay yes I will go through it with Tim and we will review it 14:23:52 hoppalm: big thumb up and high five :D 14:24:00 sc: what about box order ? 14:24:32 kornica: I changed the order in docker-compose 14:25:01 you have any code ? at least me - well I am not sure I understand what that means :D 14:25:19 I just put mysql up, it looks to me it speads up setup 14:25:43 kornica: OK, I'll share ASAP 14:26:33 ah ok :) 14:26:45 probably did as multiple things need to talk to it so the sooner it comes up the better, and please put up any changes you think are good 14:26:48 and we will look 14:26:56 sure 14:27:13 ok, I think I've exhausted the topic - nice to see that you're happy with that contribution 14:28:22 I have one openstack-reviews item in my agenda, that I did not post but figured now it is worth discussing 14:29:20 unless someone has anything to add about sth else, I could just elaborate on that 14:29:30 you have the floor 14:30:52 the changes I wanted to mentioned are about inhibit,silencing and grouping 14:31:00 oh 14:31:05 I had to -2 one of them as it would break the CI 14:31:22 but apperently there is now nobody who would adress that :/ 14:31:51 I mean, is that really that bad of situation from HPE side that such promissing features are left behind ;-( 14:31:53 ? 14:32:07 we haven't left it behind 14:32:26 similar comments goes to monasca-agent mods that, for example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448895/ 14:32:52 oh...I mean, as reviewer, I am not quite sure what else apart from pinging owner we could do 14:33:14 -2 is pretty strong, but breaking CI was never sth that we were accepting 14:34:14 we are planning on finishing it as it is a feature important to us we want 14:34:24 it's just the time ? 14:34:29 andrea has been out? 14:34:45 so, we are trying to figure out how to address/load-balance this on the team 14:34:51 well, 've given this -2 over 2 weeks from now 14:35:56 I mean, please don't get me wrong or anything like that - just trying to finally understand what should we expect in upstream 14:37:15 not sure how to address right now as the developer is not around 14:37:28 so, we've been trying to address this 14:38:31 maybe someone (you, I believe would be the best guy) or someone else, could just go through open changes 14:38:35 abandon what is really not needed 14:38:46 mark needed changes with -1@W 14:39:19 yeah, we had talked about that a few months ago 14:39:27 but, i wouldn't abandon these changes 14:39:54 for alarm inhibition, silencing, ... 14:40:39 that's out of a question - those should be left for future work 14:40:59 what about agent mods around container monitoring ? 14:41:53 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448895/ 14:41:58 so i need to go through them again 14:42:13 hoppalm: thx 14:42:19 it was during the time when we were trying to learn what we want for kubernetes monitoring 14:42:47 might be that now, that I finally have k8s and docker functional at my workstatation (finally off the proxy hook, yeah) 14:42:58 I will be able to properly test those 14:43:22 sweeet :) if you see gaps in our container monitoring let us know as well 14:43:29 sure :D 14:43:45 the only thing I would most certainly need would have them rebased by author :D 14:43:59 later hopefully I will be smart enough to understand them and test them 14:43:59 :D 14:44:19 :) 14:44:23 btw, on another topic, has anyone from fujitsu thought about, https://www.netways.de/nocache/en/events/osmc/cfp/ 14:44:41 deadline is uly 31st 14:44:42 BTW: I've noticed that in helm repo you;ve been referring to minikube 14:44:46 having that said - https://github.com/kornicameister/journeys/tree/master/kubernetes/scripts 14:44:54 those might be come in handy for you ;-) 14:45:01 that;s for kubeadm 14:45:31 rhochmuth: I will ping rest of my team 14:45:51 rhochmuth: thx 14:46:25 thx kornica 14:46:38 i need to run to another meeting right now 14:46:43 i know weird time 14:46:44 oh sweet 14:46:56 hoppalm: kubeadm scripts ? 14:46:56 can someone end the meeting when done 14:47:04 oyeah 14:47:06 I think someone should know how :D 14:48:03 anything else from anyone? 14:48:04 hoppalm: I am using those everyday since I wrote them (or rather reforged knowledge of my collegue associated with kubernetes-dashboard project :D) 14:48:16 hoppalm: so they should be fine enough 14:48:36 hoppalm: from my side - no 14:48:48 cool anyone else or good to end meeting? 14:49:48 ill take that as a no 14:49:54 #endmeeting 14:49:55 it's a trap 14:50:08 dangit whats the exact command :) 14:50:28 #endmeeting 14:50:34 that should be it 14:50:42 witek used that last time :D 14:50:47 #end-meeting 14:50:49 :) 14:50:52 just copied and pasted here 14:50:57 hoepfully it doesnt require roland to do it 14:50:58 rotfl.... 14:51:15 let me send him a pm 14:51:23 hmmm....ok...so how many developers you need to end the meeting 14:51:35 n+1 developers 14:53:11 #endmeeting 14:53:19 ok, this has to be the correct command 14:53:24 just checked other meeting logs 14:53:34 I am out of juice to end meeting ;/ 14:53:36 #endmeeting