15:00:51 #startmeeting monasca 15:00:52 Meeting started Wed Mar 21 15:00:51 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:53 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:55 The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' 15:01:12 hello 15:01:18 hi 15:01:21 howdy 15:01:36 how is weather in Ireland? :) 15:01:43 dry 15:01:54 hello 15:02:06 Hello 15:02:23 Dry weather in Ireland? That's a first :-) 15:02:53 we have few topics topics today 15:02:55 dry = it's not raining right now 15:03:07 feel free to add if you have some 15:03:08 hello 15:03:20 #topic Vancouver Forum 15:03:45 the brainstorming phase for Vancouver Forum is open 15:04:08 the topics for discussion sessions can be proposed 15:04:56 Forum are 40-mins. session slots with open discussions 15:05:22 the goal is to get feedback from operators, users, developers 15:05:30 or agree on future work 15:05:43 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum 15:05:46 here more info 15:06:06 deadline for topic submissions is Apr 2 15:06:28 e.g. there is already etherpad for self-healing SIG 15:06:34 which could be interesting 15:06:41 let me see if I understood: a small PTG with users 15:07:00 witek: we have to join them for sure 15:07:24 it's held together with the Summit 15:08:20 yes, it's somehow like PTG, with more focus on feedback I would say 15:08:29 is there any possibility it changes some rocky priorities? 15:09:00 40 minutes daily? 15:09:16 the output could rather influence next release prios 15:09:47 ok 15:09:50 jgu_: the sessions are organised to 40-mins. slots 15:10:36 everyday through the complete Summit 15:11:07 who is likely to be in Vancouver? If IIRC we don't have any presentation next summit 15:12:01 we'll have Project Update and Project Onboarding 15:12:49 waiting for volunteers to help on these 15:12:56 OK. What I meant is that if we commit to organized the forum we need to have someone always present 15:13:44 yes, when proposing the topic normally you should moderate the discussion 15:13:51 I could volunteer but I have to see if I can travel, budget, approvals... all the big company stuff 15:14:57 yes, please check 15:15:49 do you know, who else will attend the Vancouver Summit? 15:16:02 Added to my todo list, I have to wait till Monday as my boss is off this week 15:16:18 the home boss granted approval 15:16:35 we are waiting for approvals 15:16:38 I am also in the approval phase 15:16:53 I think it's unlikely I'll be able to make it. I should be able to dial in to relevant sessions. 15:17:29 I think the sessions are not even recorded 15:17:49 ah 15:18:10 just etherpad notes 15:18:17 in most cases 15:18:51 should we move on? 15:19:02 yes. 15:19:09 #topic reviews 15:19:22 sc: your stage 15:19:31 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554304/ 15:19:58 I tested this in devstack and systemd works from the agent. I have to check some interaction with notification 15:20:22 notification? 15:20:34 from devstack log 15:20:48 I see something when the notification starts 15:21:04 ok 15:21:16 like a check of services, I'm thinking about something wrong in the devstack/plugin 15:21:27 so, you basically rework monasca_setup 15:21:34 yes 15:21:53 and split to separate 3 services 15:22:09 yes and one target to manage them all 15:22:30 monasca_agent now is target that spawn and manage the 3 services 15:22:56 I guess we'll need some update in documentation as well 15:23:13 good suggestion witek 15:23:17 can you do it, or should we split the tasks? 15:23:31 I prefer to add a new task 15:23:38 fine 15:23:49 but I'm going to do 15:24:00 you've been asking about SysV support 15:24:04 the big reason this is marked as WIP is that in monasca_setup we have code to manager sysv systems 15:24:10 could we get rid of this 15:24:10 :) 15:24:25 ? 15:24:52 I think originally monasca_setup supported only SysV 15:24:58 I mean this is unused code and I don't like leaving code around 15:25:10 then systemd was added 15:25:29 does anyone still need support for SysV? 15:25:31 do you know of any distro supported by OpenStack that is not running systemd 15:25:48 no 15:26:42 any opinions? 15:27:45 I think we can remove this code 15:28:08 good, I'm doing ASAP and unlock the review 15:28:14 next topic... 15:28:18 great, thanks 15:28:27 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546956/ 15:28:41 amofakhar: is asking for reviews 15:28:45 oslo.policy in monasca-api 15:29:00 yes 15:29:14 I'll have a look myself in next days 15:29:22 good thanks 15:29:27 but would be nice to have someone else as well 15:29:45 I think sc added himself last week 15:30:31 amofakhar: anything else on this? 15:30:38 no thats all 15:30:41 I took a look then I got interupted by something. I'll complete tonight 15:30:51 thanks 15:31:16 amofakhar: ping me on monasca channel if tomorrow you don't have any news from myself 15:31:17 sc: night is for something else than looking at code ;) 15:31:34 relaxing before going to sleep 15:31:51 #topic Rocky prios 15:31:59 your position is getting worse 15:32:29 the prio page has been merged 15:32:35 http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/monasca-specs/priorities/rocky-priorities.html 15:32:57 it would be great if owners could add short descriptions 15:33:32 could be one sentence with reference to story or spec 15:34:08 I have also looked at how we can track progress on prios with StoryBoard 15:34:31 and haven't found a reasonable way to make it automatically 15:34:57 I don't want to track all the tasks from StoryBoard, just the prios 15:35:17 so some kind of tagging would be needed to filter the tasks 15:35:28 but tags can only be added to stories 15:35:45 which are not granular enough 15:36:26 I cannot help 15:36:33 so I would like to continue to use the board in current shape 15:36:40 https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/60 15:37:03 and drag the tasks at least every Wednesday 15:37:34 that way everyone can see which important changes need review 15:37:48 or which tasks could be picked up to work on 15:38:10 also if anyone would like to help updating this board, please ping me 15:38:19 and I will add the permissions 15:38:36 any thoughts? 15:39:41 ok, next topic then 15:40:06 #topic rejecting future and past measurements 15:40:27 Tim has provided some more information from Craig 15:40:34 https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001535 15:41:07 thresholding engine is just dropping these measurements 15:41:21 and the alarm will stay in UNDETERMINED state 15:41:58 that seems OK. 15:42:28 Basically, it requires an alarm on the fact that no metrics are coming from a specific agent. 15:42:53 so, there is no reason to discard the metrics at the API level 15:43:18 but the metric would be coming 15:44:32 oh, so you mean monitoring thresholding engine, right 15:44:33 ? 15:44:44 yes, but it it would be rejected by the threshold engine during the computation 15:44:50 yes 15:46:04 is it possible to define an alarm in the threshold like "SUM(ALL metrics) == 0 By agent" 15:46:08 ? 15:46:32 don't know, would have to check 15:46:51 I guess you could pick any metric really, as basically as soon as that metric does not come in anymore, the total couont of events related to that metric would become 0 15:48:03 My guess is that the agent is not a dimension? 15:48:15 hostname 15:48:20 in most cases 15:48:32 ok, that should work I suppose 15:48:46 or? 15:49:27 I'll think of it, could you also investigate please? 15:50:31 yes, I could try to setup a use case 15:50:50 thanks 15:51:09 np 15:51:13 10 mins. left 15:51:24 do we have some other topics? 15:51:56 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554918/1 15:52:12 I don't understand what is this about? 15:53:15 pypy is supposed to be faster than Python 15:53:43 it usually is 15:54:03 so why disabling it? 15:55:08 as far as I understand, he wants to add this 15:56:15 the patchset I see it's the other way around, but I may be completelly wrong 15:56:43 oh, I'm sorry, you're right 15:57:06 yes it is removed 15:59:02 I'll ping this guy 15:59:06 ok 15:59:13 we have to close 15:59:16 thank you all for today 15:59:17 see you 15:59:22 see you next week 15:59:27 see you 15:59:27 bye 15:59:39 #endmeeting