17:04:20 #startmeeting murano 17:04:21 Meeting started Tue Nov 19 17:04:20 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ativelkov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:04:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:04:24 The meeting name has been set to 'murano' 17:04:32 So, let's begin 17:04:40 Our agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda#Agenda 17:05:14 let's start with the #topic Summit summary 17:05:23 #topic Summit Summary 17:05:57 So, we have officially presented the changing of Murano mission from "Windows DataCenter as a service" to "Application Catalog" 17:06:10 Received some positiv 17:06:19 received some positive feedback from the community 17:07:05 Seems like lot's of people were working on the similar topics on their own, looks like we may get some synergy while working together 17:07:44 Also, it is #agreed to extract reusable functionality from Murano and contribute it to other projects 17:08:47 E.g. Murano Workflows will be contributed to Mistral, Murano Agent may become Unified Agent, and some of our software post install configuration may get its way into Heat Software Configuration 17:09:11 Discussions on Mistral and Unified Agent are already in progress 17:09:48 Good news! 17:09:48 That's all for summit, I think. Any questions? 17:10:25 Is there is a special project name for a Unified Agent? 17:11:31 Not yet. We just call it "unified agent", and "unified" means "adopted by more then one project" 17:12:20 So, next topic 17:12:24 #topic AI review 17:12:51 We actually have 4 AIs 17:13:20 gokrokve was supposed to "Put together and distribute over the mailing list AIs and agreements achieved in HK" 17:14:34 gokrokve is on the Solum workshop today, so he probably cannot answer. In fact, we have sent an email into the distribution, summarising all the agreements and inviting the community to participate 17:15:08 sergmelikyan was supposed to "Find new available timeslot for Murano meeting that is later then current one." 17:15:23 As we are chatting right now it seems like this is done :) 17:15:30 ativelkov, we moved meeting to Tuesday, 17:00 UTC :) 17:15:42 yup 17:15:44 And today is a first meeting with new schedule :) 17:16:10 There is an AI to "fix Jenkins configuration to full eng" 17:16:16 It was not assigned 17:16:23 any news on this? 17:17:35 It was assigned to Timur and AFAIK was done at the same day as assigned 17:17:36 Probably it is up to tnurlygayanov, but he is not present 17:17:44 ah, good 17:18:07 last AI was to start discussing with Solum devs API specs and env. descriptions format 17:18:17 sergmelikyan: any progress on that? 17:19:46 May by Gosha is doing it right now) 17:20:24 I hope so 17:20:24 ativelkov, from my side I had not enough time to do that :( 17:20:37 And Georgy on the Solum Design Workshop now 17:21:03 OK. So, let's hope gokrokve will do this on their workshop 17:21:16 ok, we are done with AIs 17:21:28 #topic Release 0.3 status 17:21:44 sergmelikyan, can you give us an update on the release status? 17:22:41 We fixing last issues in Release 0.3 and finishing with documentations 17:23:16 Any estimates on when it will be ready? 17:23:24 Current ETA for the release - 2 days, we planning to release 0.3 on Thursday 17:23:38 #info Realease 0.3 is expected on Thursday 17:24:34 #topic Release 0.4 17:25:01 tsufiev: can you give an update for r.04? 17:25:38 we're finishing admin UI for metadata today almost as planned 17:26:15 i mean, last commit implementing its functionality should be approved tomorrow 17:26:44 also there is advanced networking still to be merged... 17:27:12 I thought it have already merged 17:27:18 yes, I am working on this today 17:27:35 #info metadata repository admin part is almost done 17:27:48 #info advanced networking is being finished 17:28:22 katyafervent: adv networking part of Conductor has been merged indeed, however some workflows still has to be modified 17:28:43 ativelkov, Ok, thanks 17:29:06 so, next topic) 17:29:27 #topic Load Balancer Issue 17:29:46 AFAIK, there was an email by sergmelikyan describing the problem 17:30:33 Serge, can you briefly describe it here as well? 17:30:36 I remember there was some feedback about the subj 17:30:48 Yes, but not so many responses. Maybe we need to forward this email to the Fuel Team to get they thoughts on Neutron LBaaS support. 17:31:27 The feedback from Heat team was that we should't use AWS::-based templates if we can use OS::-based 17:32:14 so, let's ale an AI ) 17:32:18 make* 17:32:37 Yep, I think we can modify the subj, adding there [Neutron] and [Fuel], and may be to ping folks personally to get some feedback 17:32:54 #action forward the LoadBalancer email to Neutron and Fuel team, asking for feedback 17:33:38 Anything else on this topic? 17:34:02 If no, then the next one 17:34:07 #topic Solum Integration 17:34:32 I guess we don't have much here for now - not until gokrokve has some news from the workshop 17:35:27 He's there in #murano channel, let me ping him 17:35:45 #action gokrokve to summarise the decisions of Solum design workshop for further discussion of integration paths 17:37:12 Ok, probably he is busy. May be they have a lot to discuss, this may be promising :) 17:37:26 What else is in the agenda? What about scope of 0.5? Is it there? 17:37:40 it is not in the agenda ) 17:37:45 #topic Open Discussion 17:37:56 but let's discuss it now then 17:38:21 So, we are going towards Application Catalog, obviously 17:38:55 The core concept of the App Catalog will be the Metadata, describing the Cloud Applications 17:39:02 Do we need to implement more applications? 17:39:10 Nope 17:39:15 at least not for now 17:39:43 We expect others to do that - and not as part of Murano project 17:40:06 For release 0.5 we need to dramatically improve the concept of Metadata 17:40:26 I think we will need to develop the specification 17:40:40 Rich and detailed, formal and excessive 17:41:00 Then, we will need to extract a subset of it - which will be easy to explain and implement 17:41:16 and then - last but not least - actually implement it :) 17:41:42 rich and detailed, formal and excessive � sounds scaring:) 17:41:59 igormarnat_: that's specification only 17:42:06 we don't want to change it often 17:42:21 but we do not need to implement it as the whole thing 17:42:30 we'll need something simple to begin with 17:42:54 but this simple implementation should comply to the global vision, so the vision should be detailed 17:43:48 Speaking of spec, I'd say it's enough to be integral and consistent, but still these are just words:) 17:44:05 What's the plan then? When do we plan to have the draft? 17:45:08 BTW, is Stan here? 17:45:36 stanlagun: are you here? 17:46:25 yep 17:47:48 we are working on it 17:48:12 I mean ideas for spec 17:49:00 We'll try to have some formal draft as soon as I finish with adv.net. 17:49:12 Do we have an etherpad or something? 17:49:42 not yet, just the ideas. As I said, we need to fomalize them 17:51:35 Suppose to have them formalized by the next meeting (in a week)? 17:51:41 Yes 17:51:59 #action ativelkov stanlagun to formalise the new metadata ideas in the etherpad 17:52:04 sure 17:52:23 Ok. Any other questions? 17:52:38 #action ativelkov stanlagun To elaborate and formalize the spec for Metadata 17:53:31 So, let's conclude the meeting 17:53:36 thanks for joining 17:53:40 #endmeeting