17:00:43 #startmeeting murano 17:00:44 Meeting started Tue Jan 28 17:00:43 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tsufiev_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:45 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:47 The meeting name has been set to 'murano' 17:01:14 So, as always let's begin with AI review 17:01:28 it seems to me, that remain the same from the previous meeting 17:02:05 1. stanlagun to update the DSL description according to the implemented PoC 17:02:21 stanlagun: how is it going? 17:03:03 actually i said that code would be ready by now, not documentation 17:03:22 Well the DSL code is 95% complete 17:03:40 yes, i know it because i'm working with the rest 5% :) 17:04:13 stanlagun: should we postpone this one until the next meeting? 17:04:33 postpone what? 17:04:47 katyafervent: postpone AI 17:04:53 docs? yes 17:05:03 hi 17:05:07 hi 17:05:11 hi 17:05:16 Hi Joel 17:05:23 Yes,let's make it to creating service with new engine 17:05:44 ok, with the code ready in 1-2 days there should be some time until next week for writing docs 17:06:13 katyafervent: right now there is an ActiveDirectory service served by new Dsl Engine 17:06:14 Let's move on thrn 17:06:17 *then 17:06:24 #action stanlagun to update the DSL description according to the implemented PoC 17:06:44 tsufiev_, That's a good news, mark it with #info 17:07:23 next 2 AI is assigned to ativelkov 17:07:33 as he won't be there today, let's skip them 17:08:19 And please update openstack wiki with DSL specification 17:08:33 ok, let's move it to the next meeting too. 17:08:37 so let's move to the next item in our agenda 17:08:43 #topic Status for release 0.4.1 17:09:21 katyafervent: i think you're the most competent person on this topic now ;) 17:09:58 We postpone 0.4.1 for the 6th of February 17:10:00 katyafervent: speaking of ActiveDirectory topic - a bit later 17:10:17 Due to delay with floating ip feature implementation 17:10:19 katyafervent: are there some major bugs left? 17:10:58 tsufiev_, not major but there are couple that would be better to fix in 0.4.1 17:11:18 tsufiev, yes, we have several not fixed bugs which are targeted to 0.4.1 release 17:11:21 Plus we need to update documentation 17:11:42 That's why the release was postponed 17:11:57 don't forget to fix bugs with installation scripts 17:12:13 Please provide a link) 17:12:21 akuznetsova_: aren't they in master branch? 17:12:33 we are speaking now about release-0.4 branch 17:12:34 yes, it is bug with High priority for release 17:12:55 yes, this is actual for release-0.4 https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1267420 17:13:13 How is testing going?) 17:14:00 Did you test all implemented features? 17:14:14 good, today i worked with this one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/per-tenant-isolation 17:14:35 not bad ) it is in progress now and we found several bugs in new features 17:14:37 akuznetsova_: ah, yes, it seems like the pip version issue 17:15:12 tsufiev, yes, and we have workaround for this issue. 17:15:33 tnurlygayanov_: speaking of new bugs, should they be fixed in 0.4.1? 17:15:34 #info We will have feature freeze this Friday 17:15:37 tnurlygayanov_: do you speak about it feature https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/per-tenant-isolation ? 17:16:09 tnurlygayanov_: oops, wrong link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/key-pair-for-linux-services 17:16:21 tsufiev_, yes, we have bugs which sohlud be fixed in 0.4.1, like issue with empty key pair 17:17:02 looks like this feature (per tenant isolation) works good 17:17:32 we have several problems with keypais and devstack scripts 17:17:52 katyafervent: do these additional fixes fit into our new release date estimate? 17:17:57 it is the most important issues which should be fixed in 0.4.1 17:18:45 Yes, we do have in our deliverables 17:19:09 ok 17:19:28 if nothing left on 0.4.1 topic, let's move to the next one 17:19:35 Here is the link https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1273596 17:19:49 stanlagun, Could you please take it? 17:20:05 np 17:20:15 What's next in our agenda? 17:20:20 stanlagun, thanks! 17:20:36 #topic New DSL engine 17:21:39 as said before the code is 95%-ready 17:22:24 right now i'm helping stanlagun with the conditional deploy implementation 17:22:35 and what about the rest 5 % ? ) 17:23:13 95% of my part :) 17:23:35 it is a bit more general than deploy-only - it should allow to decide whether to invoke or not to invoke specific methods based on deployment history 17:23:45 so it's the 5% i'm working on 17:24:14 problem is interesting and not quite trivial :) 17:24:33 can we try to use not finished DSL engine now, before the release? 17:24:41 i'm going to think a bit more about it today and have a brainstorm with stanlagun tomorrow 17:25:01 There were huge improvements in DSL since last CM. Nearly all the problems we had are solved or at least a solution is know 17:25:33 ok 17:26:32 do we plan to rewrite more services using new DSL? 17:26:43 for release 0.5 17:26:45 ActiveDirectory DSL definitions are still being reworked - to use the conditional system 17:27:14 yes. But not before the DSL syntax etc. are approved 17:27:20 once we have 100%-ready engine, it would be much faster 17:28:11 anything else on the DSL engine? 17:28:15 That's cool! 17:28:33 ok, cool. And do we have anly plan to merge this new DSL with Mistral DSL/engine? 17:29:14 or it is only internal Murano DSL? 17:29:30 right now they're doing same things quite differently 17:31:14 *butt we should remember about this project and plan to use it, if it will be possible and usefull 17:31:18 tnurlygayanov_: idk. haven't been on a Mistral meetings for a while 17:31:24 tnurlygayanov_: not in 0.5. Mistral integration in not clear at this moment 17:31:33 ok 17:31:53 yes, not for release 0.5 17:32:30 There can be 2 strategies for this: rewrite DSL engine (very very very not trivial) or just contribute Murano DSL to Mistral in some way 17:32:47 stanlagun: also, what about unit tests for new DSL? 17:33:13 +1 for potential merge of murano DSL with mistral 17:33:13 i understand that it's still a POC, but the sooner we start writing them, the better 17:34:17 Unit-testing of YAML workflows is something we need to invent. Currently there is nothing done for this, but this definitely possible. Probably someone may start thinking on it 17:35:19 Unit tests of DSL engine is also yet to be done. I hope someone will help me with it 17:36:08 i'd be glad to think about it, but i have 2-weeks vacation starting next week 17:36:45 ok, I can help with it on the next week 17:37:19 #action tnurlygayanov to help stanlagun with DSL Engine & YAML workflow unit tests 17:37:28 I know alex is writing unit tests for YAQL 0.3 17:37:29 but I want to review code before it ) 17:37:48 yes, Alex can help too ) 17:38:30 tnurlygayanov_: it's going to be very interesting activity :) 17:38:42 I will discuss it with him, probably he will share some examples. 17:39:09 yes )) 17:39:35 ok, is there some other DSL-related questions we want to discuss? 17:39:36 and it will help to fast uderstand new DSL to me and Alex. 17:40:21 tnurlygayanov_: the best way to understand new DSL (for me) is reading it's code and trying to implement some functionality 17:41:08 *to write the tests in my case ) 17:41:14 yes ) 17:42:12 so it seems that we finished with DSL engine 17:42:40 do we have any other AI? 17:43:07 ativelkov asked to drop the Repository reorganization topic from today agenda, because he wants to discuss it on the next meeting 17:43:35 #action ativelkov to write to ML about repository re-organization 17:43:48 #action ativelkov to schedule a meeting with Dmitry 17:44:23 akuznetsova_: no, we haven't specific topics left 17:44:36 #topic Open discussion 17:47:13 the question that bothers me most is 'When this cold winter ends?' :) 17:47:37 but if you have more Murano-specific questions, you're welcome :)) 17:48:03 When you vacation starts) 17:48:16 *your 17:49:09 it is 03.02.14-16.02.14 17:49:30 I guess we are done for today 17:50:02 agree 17:50:09 #endmeeting