17:01:52 <kzaitsev_mb> #startmeeting murano 17:01:53 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Jul 21 17:01:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:54 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:57 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'murano' 17:02:14 <kzaitsev_mb> hi all, murano time 17:02:19 <katyafervent> Hi 17:02:26 <noa-koffman> Hi 17:03:02 <Nikolay_St> hi 17:03:37 <sergmelikyan> o/ 17:03:42 <sergmelikyan> Hi noa-koffman! 17:03:46 <mgershen> Hi 17:03:47 <sergmelikyan> Happy to see you here :) 17:03:55 <sergmelikyan> mgershen: o/ 17:03:57 <FilipBlaha> Hi 17:03:58 <noa-koffman> Hi, happy to be here :) 17:04:03 <mgershen> :D 17:04:06 <Nikolay_St> :D 17:04:07 <sergmelikyan> FilipBlaha: o/ 17:04:10 <kzaitsev_mb> Agenda for todays meeting: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda/Archive/2015-07-21/ 17:04:14 <ativelkov> o/ 17:04:47 <kzaitsev_mb> so we can start with action items review. There was only one — I had to update the yaql BP, to offload some work from slagun 17:05:01 <kzaitsev_mb> I didn't, but katyafervent did the work anyway =) 17:05:02 <freerunner> o/ 17:05:11 <kzaitsev_mb> thank you katyafervent for that! =) 17:05:15 <katyafervent> :) 17:05:42 <kzaitsev_mb> #topic Migrating to yaql 1.0 status. 17:06:02 <kzaitsev_mb> So slagun is unable to attend, but I chatted with him and can give a status update 17:07:00 <kzaitsev_mb> 1) the dsl is ported 2) yaql itself was improved by slagun. What's left is to port yaql functions of the engine (not dsl) 17:07:11 <kzaitsev_mb> slagun promises to finish it by tomorrow =) 17:07:44 <kzaitsev_mb> the WIP commits are #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204099/ 17:08:01 <kzaitsev_mb> and #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204103/ 17:08:34 <kzaitsev_mb> So let's hope that we'll see murano working on yaql 1.0 by the end of the week =) 17:08:57 <sergmelikyan> kzaitsev_mb: we need to coordinate with Mistral team on that 17:09:12 <sergmelikyan> We should switch to 1.0 together 17:09:20 <kzaitsev_mb> sergmelikyan: that's a good point! 17:09:30 <katyafervent> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/migrate-to-yaql-vnext,n,z 17:10:00 <katyafervent> Stan, please set corresponding topic to be able to see all commits 17:10:47 <katyafervent> We will release new version of yaql and update all the patches 17:10:59 <katyafervent> so it's too early to merge them 17:12:12 <kzaitsev_mb> sorry, got disconnected 17:12:32 <kzaitsev_mb> #action slagun coordinate yaql1.0 release with mistral guys 17:12:41 <kzaitsev_mb> lets leave it like this, then 17:13:09 <kzaitsev_mb> #topic Assign CrossProjectLiason status for Oslo (and possibly Release management) 17:13:38 <kzaitsev_mb> so the next topic is about CPLs 17:14:04 <kzaitsev_mb> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons for those who do not know who CPLs are 17:14:40 <kzaitsev_mb> sergmelikyan, are you willing to share Oslo and Release duties with someone, right? 17:15:07 <sergmelikyan> kzaitsev_mb: will be happy to :) 17:15:57 <kzaitsev_mb> I think I can take oslo, since I visit Oslo for horizon anyway, but that would make me have 3 CPL titles, whoch is a bit too much +) 17:16:47 <kzaitsev_mb> katyafervent: can you maybe take doc CPL from me? =) 17:16:57 <sergmelikyan> kzaitsev_mb: it takes too much of your time? 17:17:11 <kzaitsev_mb> not really, just the bus factor ) 17:17:13 <katyafervent> I don't know what I need to do 17:18:14 <kzaitsev_mb> katyafervent: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Documentation here's short info. you do not to do much, just be the person, that passes important news from doc team to murano and vice versa 17:19:20 <katyafervent> ok 17:19:22 <kzaitsev_mb> sergmelikyan: and the release.. I'm not really sure about that one. 17:19:38 <sergmelikyan> kzaitsev_mb: I will keep this one for now 17:20:47 <kzaitsev_mb> ok, so if no objections katyafervent takes documentation CPL from me. I take oslo CPL from sergmelikyan. and sergmelikyan keeps release CPL. 17:21:36 <Nikolay_St> kzaitsev_mb: no objections :) 17:21:37 <kzaitsev_mb> #agreed katyafervent is the new doc CPL, kzaitsev_mb is the new oslo CPL, sergmelikyan is still the release CPL 17:22:05 <kzaitsev_mb> I'll update the wiki, then =) 17:22:46 <kzaitsev_mb> Let's move to the openstack-murano question then 17:22:53 <kzaitsev_mb> #topic Voting: should we move to openstack-murano? 17:23:20 <katyafervent> recently I wrote an email about that 17:23:31 <kzaitsev_mb> #startvote should we move to #openstack-murano? Yes, No, Abstain 17:23:31 <openstack> Begin voting on: should we move to #openstack-murano? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. 17:23:32 <openstack> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:23:36 <sergmelikyan> ativelkov: summarized my thoughts around that, that's why I don't support this idea at all 17:23:41 <sergmelikyan> No 17:23:46 <sergmelikyan> #vote No 17:23:48 <katyafervent> most of openstack project have openstack suffix. 17:24:01 <freerunner> #vote Yes 17:24:03 <kzaitsev_mb> #vote Abstain 17:24:09 <katyafervent> Is that just heat has not that suffix? 17:24:37 <ativelkov> #vote No 17:24:38 <FilipBlaha> #vote Abstain 17:24:40 <katyafervent> There are a lot of resources where we providing our irc channel as #murano 17:24:41 <mgershen> #vote Abstain 17:24:48 <kzaitsev_mb> katyafervent: there is a wiki page with all IRC channels 17:24:59 <noa-koffman> #vote Abstain 17:25:05 <sergmelikyan> ativelkov: your vote? 17:25:12 <kzaitsev_mb> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC 17:25:15 <freerunner> I'm not see real significant reasons to stay in #murano 17:25:16 <ativelkov> sergmelikyan: I did 17:25:21 <ativelkov> #vote No 17:25:23 <ativelkov> see above) 17:25:33 <sergmelikyan> A really lot of resources, that's why I very negative about that 17:25:36 <sergmelikyan> *I am 17:25:47 <Nikolay_St> congres, heat and nova-docker 17:25:50 <katyafervent> #vote No 17:25:56 <Nikolay_St> and also magneto-db 17:26:00 <Nikolay_St> #vote Abstain 17:27:05 <ruhe> #vote Yes 17:28:01 <kzaitsev_mb> on the one hand this make our channel a bit more consistent, but on the other would likely cause confusion and some trouble short and mid-term 17:30:07 <sergmelikyan> Heat is perfectly fine with they channel :) 17:30:12 <katyafervent> we loosing our time with vote "Abstain". there are should be just two options 17:30:16 <freerunner> katyafervent: I'm really surprised that you vote 'No' in this voting. ;) 17:30:17 <sergmelikyan> I don't see why we need to change ours 17:30:31 <sergmelikyan> Let's finish the vote 17:30:44 <kzaitsev_mb> #endvote 17:30:45 <openstack> Voted on "should we move to #openstack-murano?" Results are 17:30:46 <openstack> Yes (2): freerunner, ruhe 17:30:47 <openstack> Abstain (5): noa-koffman, FilipBlaha, kzaitsev_mb, mgershen, Nikolay_St 17:30:48 <openstack> No (3): katyafervent, ativelkov, sergmelikyan 17:31:38 <katyafervent> I could affect the result) 17:31:43 <kzaitsev_mb> katyafervent: well, if we didn't have abstain, people could just ignore the vote to do so =) 17:31:53 <katyafervent> I just imagine what we need to change 17:32:06 <katyafervent> all docs together with readme's 17:32:13 <kzaitsev_mb> so it's decided. We're staying in #murano 17:32:33 <kzaitsev_mb> katyafervent: lot's of work, really =) 17:32:42 <kzaitsev_mb> #topic Logging refactoring and the spec for it. 17:32:48 <kzaitsev_mb> our last topic for today 17:32:57 <kzaitsev_mb> Nikolay_St: can you pls elaborate? 17:33:04 <Nikolay_St> kzaitsev_mb: yeap 17:33:52 <Nikolay_St> so, a few weeks ago when I just join the team I suggest an idea to write a loggin spec for murano like this one: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-specs/blob/master/specs/log-guidelines.rst 17:34:29 <Nikolay_St> It's a complex spec with general statements 17:34:48 <Nikolay_St> and here is the one I've adopted to sahara project: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/sahara-specs/specs/kilo/sahara-log-guidelines.html 17:35:11 <Nikolay_St> but few week ago we use murano.common.log 17:35:41 <Nikolay_St> and now we merged oslo_log into murano ana I also provide a patch with oslo_log to murano-dasboard 17:36:11 <Nikolay_St> so, as for me it's time to work on spec with more specific log levels descriptions and rules 17:36:31 <Nikolay_St> I plan to do it myself 17:36:33 <kzaitsev_mb> #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-specs/blob/master/specs/log-guidelines.rst 17:37:10 <Nikolay_St> what do you think do we need this spec? 17:37:26 <Nikolay_St> #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/sahara-specs/specs/kilo/sahara-log-guidelines.html 17:37:28 <sergmelikyan> We need this spect, but it's sure not a top priority thing 17:38:07 <Nikolay_St> sergmelikyan: I rememer about amount of bugs 17:38:13 <kzaitsev_mb> agree with sergmelikyan on that one. Would be really nice to have a guideline, but we're not desperate to have one =) 17:38:16 <Nikolay_St> I'll do it in 'background' 17:38:41 <kzaitsev_mb> Nikolay_St: looks like a nice idea overall to me. 17:38:48 <katyafervent> +1 17:40:04 <Nikolay_St> so, we can mark it as agreed, right? 17:40:07 <kzaitsev_mb> #action Nikolay_St create a draft of the log guideline spec. 17:40:30 <Nikolay_St> nice 17:40:32 <kzaitsev_mb> Nikolay_St: yep, I think there are no objections to that one =) 17:40:48 <kzaitsev_mb> so If you have time to work on it — it would be really nice. 17:40:58 <kzaitsev_mb> ok, then 17:41:03 <kzaitsev_mb> #topic Open Discussion 17:41:21 <kzaitsev_mb> Anything you have to discuss about murano in general? 17:41:46 <kzaitsev_mb> Oh! I think we have an announcement: python-muranoclient was released 17:42:10 <kzaitsev_mb> python-muranoclient 0.6.2 to be specific with abandon feature support 17:42:14 <noa-koffman> I opened a bug today https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1476543, and wanted to see if there is an agreement about this issue 17:42:15 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1476543 in murano "catalog/packages/<package_id>/ui does not return json" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Lin Yang (lin-a-yang) 17:42:16 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1476543 in murano "catalog/packages/<package_id>/ui does not return json" [Undecided,New] 17:42:17 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1476543 in murano "catalog/packages/<package_id>/ui does not return json" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1476543 17:42:54 <kzaitsev_mb> btw, sergmelikyan shouldn't we write about these to openstack-announce@lists.openstack.org ? 17:43:20 <Nikolay_St> noa-koffman: right, I think it looks like bug 17:43:36 <sergmelikyan> noa-koffman: definitely a bug 17:43:58 <sergmelikyan> confirmed 17:44:04 <noa-koffman> ok thanks 17:44:13 <sergmelikyan> kzaitsev_mb: usually small releases are not announced 17:44:19 <kzaitsev_mb> I think you can even say triaged ;) 17:44:46 <noa-koffman> I also opened a bug regarding the version of murano endpoint in keystone, https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1476716 17:44:47 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1476716 in murano "murano is registerd in keystone without API version" [Undecided,New] 17:44:48 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1476716 in murano "murano is registerd in keystone without API version" [Undecided,New] 17:44:49 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1476716 in murano "murano is registerd in keystone without API version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1476716 17:44:59 <noa-koffman> that we discussed about last week 17:45:29 <kzaitsev_mb> sergmelikyan: well there was recently a letter about glance_store 0.7.0..0.7.1 being released. 17:45:31 <sergmelikyan> Yep, thank you for that! 17:45:59 <sergmelikyan> kzaitsev_mb: well, than I would appreciate if you would send e-mail there 17:46:22 <sergmelikyan> Nikolay_St: can you take a look at the both of them? 17:47:20 <Nikolay_St> sergmelikyan: you're talking about bugs? 17:47:27 <sergmelikyan> yep 17:47:32 <kzaitsev_mb> ok I'll take a look at the list and send a letter there. I think we can start using that mailing list a bit more =) 17:48:22 <kzaitsev_mb> sergmelikyan: Lin Yang is working on one of those, we should try to catch the guy and ask him/her to visit our meetings sometime 17:48:23 <Nikolay_St> sergmelikyan: one of them is already assigned to Lin Yang 17:48:30 <Nikolay_St> but I'll take another one 17:48:49 <kzaitsev_mb> he seems to do some good job fixing some of our smaller bugs =) 17:49:00 <noa-koffman> Nikolay_St: ok great thanks 17:53:52 <sergmelikyan> Any other open questions? Or we can finish slightly earlier? 17:55:11 <kzaitsev_mb> I think we can. was witing for -5 mins 17:55:25 <kzaitsev_mb> ok, folks. Thanks everyone for attending! 17:55:30 <Nikolay_St> bye 17:55:32 <katyafervent> Bye 17:55:34 <noa-koffman> bye 17:55:39 <kzaitsev_mb> See you next week or in #murano 17:55:40 <FilipBlaha> bye 17:55:43 <kzaitsev_mb> #endmeeting