17:01:09 #startmeeting murano 17:01:10 Meeting started Tue Sep 1 17:01:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Nikolay_St. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:13 The meeting name has been set to 'murano' 17:01:26 o/ 17:01:28 hello 17:01:35 o/ 17:01:35 o/ 17:01:57 <_ddovbii> hi 17:02:24 #topic Action items review 17:02:29 Hey! 17:02:58 well 17:03:22 it look like we don't have any action items since previous meeting 17:04:27 so, if we really don't have any I think we can move forward 17:04:41 any objections?? 17:05:19 \o/ 17:05:24 kzaitsev_mb: hey! 17:05:45 a bit late for rollcall, aint I? =) 17:06:45 hi folks 17:06:49 sorry for being late 17:07:03 #topic Artifact (glance v3) transition status update (ativelkov) 17:07:09 ativelkov: please 17:07:13 OK 17:07:27 So, the inetegration itself is 99% complete 17:07:48 Right now I am verifying the remaining 1% ) 17:08:06 ativelkov: ok 17:08:21 so nothing to worry about? 17:08:25 There are a number of bugs in Glance which are fixed but await the patches to land 17:09:01 And two patches in Glance Client in the same state (on review) which we will copy from glanceclient to muranoclient 17:09:21 The list of this patches is here: 17:09:23 #link http://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fastTrackPatches 17:09:44 I expect submitting the patches to murano today or tomorrow 17:10:36 ok, good to know. guys, please keep an eye at review and review patches when they will appear 17:11:10 ativelkov: anything else? 17:11:13 Are we going to have artifacts ON or OFF by default? 17:11:23 in stable/liberty I mean 17:11:32 kzaitsev_mb: I'd prefer them to be off 17:11:39 as this is experimental feature 17:11:57 In glance we have v3 api disabled by default in L 17:12:02 agree on that one 17:12:16 +1 17:12:32 stan_lagun: any comments on this? 17:13:24 comments on Glance? 17:13:34 stan_lagun: about artifacts usage 17:13:43 on glance being off by default. Will that be an issue for versioning? 17:14:00 I'd prefer that client will discover GLARE availability by default 17:14:05 so on/off/auto 17:14:10 and auto=default 17:14:29 That may be tricky 17:14:56 you can call some v3 API and fallback on error code 17:15:13 As this requires to 1) discover glance in service catalog, 2) call / on glance and check which versions of Glance API are available 17:15:20 or analyze keystone endpoints 17:15:32 Such logic usually should not be part of client 17:15:52 why not? 17:17:09 you may do it on engine side if you'd like and if client can be configured to use GLARE by the caller 17:17:21 yes 17:17:30 I'll try doing that if I have time 17:19:13 so, we agree to enable 'version discovery mechanism' for artifacts usage? 17:19:32 Well, I cannot commit on doing this in L 17:19:38 I'll try if we can 17:19:56 But the time is really tight and I'd prefer not to add any new features 17:20:02 ok 17:20:18 FF is just several days ahead 17:20:30 So its either auto or off by default 17:20:41 yup 17:21:40 #agreed artifacts usage auto/off by default. 17:22:15 #topic Feature Freeze is September 3 17:22:32 kzaitsev_mb: I know that you added this topic 17:22:44 yep 17:22:54 well Just wanted everyone to know =) 17:22:59 :D 17:23:01 ok 17:23:02 apparently not many people came =) 17:23:13 #info Feature Freeze is September 3 17:23:15 haha 17:23:23 kzaitsev_mb: what's the scope of FF 17:23:24 ? 17:23:39 in my understanding it is only murano / murano-dashboard repos 17:23:48 well, as a quick reminder we have stan_lagun patches about versioning on review 17:24:08 while murano-apps and python-muranoclient are on different release schedule, is that correct? 17:24:27 huh, want about client? ) 17:24:29 here is the chain starts #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214163/ 17:25:01 also, we have my 2 patches with CF service broker. 17:25:04 wall I'd think, that apps have completely different schedule. they do not even have stable branches unless we would decide to make one 17:25:15 which is... a nice idea in my understanding 17:25:27 the chain starts #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196820/ 17:25:45 new apps are guaranteed to work on master and having a stable/liberty for apps seems good enough 17:25:57 kzaitsev_mb: it's a good idea 17:26:13 kzaitsev_mb: we can discuss it in ML I guess 17:26:40 yep. We need Serg to answer those questions (I mean app and client FF scope) 17:26:44 anyway 17:27:05 kzaitsev_mb: yeap 17:27:23 do we have any other features on review? 17:27:46 Apps should not be tied to Murano releases by any means other than those introduced by versioning 17:29:15 You don't need to guarantee that apps works on Liberty or any other release. As long as you have fixed your requirements to released versions of MuranoPL and core library etc they must work forever 17:30:00 And as soon as core library become a plugin we may release it in the middle of the cycle 17:31:01 stan_lagun: so I have stable/kilo murano and want to use some apps. But all the apps on murano-apps use new UI FormatVersion 17:31:16 guys 17:31:18 so I get 500 when I try to add them to env 17:31:26 I guess that it's not this topic 17:31:39 Nikolay_St: I think you can safely change it to OpenDiscussion ;) 17:31:47 so, if we don't have any other to talk about ff we should move forward 17:31:51 kzaitsev_mb: yeah 17:32:00 #topic OpenDiscussion 17:32:14 kzaitsev_mb: you are wrong 17:32:34 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda/Archive/2015-09-01/ todays agenda 17:32:45 as part of versioning there will be not just latest version of the app but all versions simultaneously 17:32:58 huh 17:33:09 so if you are using older version of something just grab older version of the app 17:33:10 well if that is solved — then yep, I'm ok 17:33:18 stan_lagun: where from 17:33:36 murano-apps 17:33:45 stan_lagun: would we publish new versions of apps as different folders? 17:33:49 yes 17:33:58 ok, sonds fine to me 17:34:10 otherwise you need to have a separate repo for each app 17:34:46 if that's though of as part of versioning initiative — great. =) 17:35:42 so just for the record 17:36:05 We have our gates blocked by django 1.8 =( 17:36:18 I hoped we had that under controll, but we hadn't 17:36:39 kzaitsev_mb: any suggestion about how we can fix it? 17:36:43 so dashboard job is blocked untill https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219222/ lands 17:37:23 #link s joined #openstack-meeting-alt 17:37:30 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219222/ 17:37:45 but not for murano repo 17:38:13 Nikolay_St: we have to add formtools to requirements. If the guys in infra would not agree on that we would have to grab the code I guess 17:38:18 but I do not like that idea 17:38:25 jenkins is passed! 17:38:40 katyafervent2: yep after a couple of rechecks it's finally green =) 17:38:57 kzaitsev_mb: I think, in this patch not needed to update upper-constraints. 17:39:05 can you maybe ping some infra guys — you mentioned you know who to ask ) 17:39:10 freerunner: you're wrong 17:39:19 if you would not update the job would fail 17:39:24 kzaitsev_mb: It will be updated automatically by bot. 17:39:32 they have a job, that checks upper constraints on commit 17:39:39 thats not infra team 17:39:40 freerunner: yeah, but not for new libraries 17:40:01 freerunner: remember the time we added yaql 17:40:07 we need to go to openstack dev 17:40:41 kzaitsev_mb: I remember this time ;) 17:41:56 kzaitsev_mb: katyafervent2: I've added requirements cores to this patch. Let's wait. 17:42:49 also just for the note — we have a commit on review, (that's blocked by this obviously =)), that adds preliminary angular support for murano-dashboard 17:43:17 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218515/ 17:44:01 It adds REST api to dashboard, that we later should be able to expand, when angularising the dashboard 17:47:10 Here is the link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219222/ 17:47:36 Please, take a look. You can help us unblock our gate before feature freeze! 17:47:51 wrong channel) 17:48:00 katyafervent2: ok) 17:50:11 Do we have topic to discuss? 17:51:24 katyafervent2: I don't think so 17:51:32 any questions guys? 17:51:44 Can i add some app into murano-app after sep.3? 17:52:20 xiangxinyong: as far as we don't have FF for it - yes 17:52:24 kzaitsev_mb: ^^ 17:52:39 OK 17:52:51 Yes, murano-apps and pythonclient are not followed main scheduler and have separate releases 17:53:17 understood 17:53:18 Ok, see you later, guys! 17:54:10 well 17:54:18 any other questions? 17:57:07 I guess no questions to discuss 17:57:13 so, see you all guys! 17:57:19 #endmeeting