17:00:37 #startmeeting murano 17:00:38 Meeting started Tue Aug 23 17:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:39 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:41 The meeting name has been set to 'murano' 17:00:42 hey 17:00:51 #topic rollcall 17:01:06 let's see who's up for some murano today ) 17:01:12 hey 17:02:05 o/ 17:02:33 o/ 17:02:43 o/ 17:05:05 #topic Action Items Review 17:05:33 I wanted to write a letter about glare jobs voting — done and would appreciate some input there 17:06:01 basically since I envision another rework to v1 17:06:17 I believe that we can keep it non-voting untill that 17:07:07 kzaitsev_mb: I'm agree here 17:08:21 2) moving mistral/congress to plugins 17:08:26 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/move-murano-integrations-to-plugins 17:08:30 here's a link to bp 17:08:46 we're most likely not going to do it in newton anyway, since ff is 2 weeks away 17:09:24 guess that's all with the AIs 17:09:34 no specific agenda for today, so 17:09:41 #topic Open Discussion 17:10:31 well, I'd like to remind you folks that N3 is 2 weeks away and N3 marks FF 17:10:50 #link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html 17:11:54 so we've got to concentrate on getting important things into newton release. 17:13:14 ok 17:13:43 Well, I've contacted zhu_rong as I promised at previous meeting 17:14:09 He said that he know about 4 other people from China who are interested in community meetings 17:14:53 Nikolay_St: maybe that would make our meetings more lively =) 17:15:20 kzaitsev_mb: yeap. the problem is that it's too late for guys from China 17:16:07 Nikolay_St: may I ask you to start an email thread to see which time is more suitable for the guys? 17:16:22 kzaitsev_mb: ok, will do 17:16:29 Initially I'm ok with having horizon-style alterating meetings 17:16:38 their timezone is like UTC +8 17:17:38 kzaitsev_mb: I'm okay with that style too 17:18:00 kzaitsev_mb: I can help you with "morning" meetings in case it will be too early for you =D 17:18:07 there is plenty of slots in the morning 17:18:11 https://www.dropbox.com/s/a72aqn64jxdmukl/Capture%20d'écran%202016-08-23%2020.17.43.png?dl=0 17:18:30 Nikolay_St: well, that's something I would like to avoid =) I mean — I would like to attend all of them ))) 17:18:56 the problem is that our US-based colleagues would not be able to attend though 17:21:09 anyways — let's try to figure out possible times and see if we can balance them between everyone 17:21:28 sure 17:23:54 jallirs in #murano asked about the meeting, but I'm not sure if he's online anymore ) 17:23:57 ok 17:24:47 unless there are more news to share/discuss — going to end the meeting in around half the time 17:30:55 Hi, I'm new here but have been working on a solution to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/migrate-to-glance-v2 using glance tasks. Would now be the right time to discuss this? 17:31:24 ding: yep, you made it right on time =) 17:31:41 so, what's your solution to the glance-v2 thing? 17:32:19 the biggest problems IMO is ux 17:32:35 Basically, it looks like the glance team decided to move copying images from external sources from --copy-from as part of image create into asyncronous tasks 17:32:43 while we can fix it somehow in CLI — there is next to no way to do it for dashboard 17:34:32 ding: so your ideas? 17:34:37 Is there not a way to use tasks from the dashboard, or is it some other issue? 17:34:52 ding: you mean glance tasks API? 17:34:55 yes 17:35:20 last time I talked to our glance experts — they said to not touch the tasks API and that they're deprecating it 17:35:48 oh, interesting. All of the documentation seems to be saying that is the future of glance, haha 17:36:25 Have the experts mentioned what they plan to do instead? 17:37:26 ding: well, nothing =) 17:37:50 that's the main problem with glance v2 17:38:23 nikhil: ping =) please correct me if I'm wrong, but we should not touch tasks API of glance v2, should we? 17:38:46 kzaitsev_mb: it's admin by default now 17:38:58 it's been deprecated that way 17:39:14 (in short, not to use it) 17:39:34 nikhil: meaning that there would not be a way for us to use it programmatically, say from horizon unless the user logged in is admin 17:39:49 nikhil: thanks a lot for clarification 17:39:56 ding: here's your answer 17:39:58 kzaitsev_mb: correct, we don't want it to be end user facing 17:40:06 okay, didn't know that. Thanks. 17:40:14 the import refactor is the way to go, when that's ready of course 17:42:04 ding: so I think, that we can count that bp as deferred for now, until glance import refactor is done 17:42:36 Yeah, that sounds like the best approach. Thank you. 17:43:53 ding: if you're interested in getting involved in murano — I can share a couple of links with entry level tasks and bugs for you ;) 17:44:10 If you don't mind, I'd appreciate it :) 17:44:21 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-entry-level-tasks here's one 17:44:51 we also have this e-pad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-newton-priorities 17:44:58 I've got to update it ) 17:46:21 Thanks, I'll see if there is something on here that my corporate overlords want me to work on. 17:47:59 ding: feel free to propose smth you want/need yourself. Also take note, that N3 is just 2 weeks away, so most likely we're going to push most of unfinished features to ocata 17:48:23 however we're thinking of moving to a faster release schedule (i.e. release-with-intermediary) 17:49:02 in ocata cycle, to make a lot of intermediary releases between major N,O,P, etc 17:51:29 How frequently would the intermediary releases be, and will the major releases still be on the same schedule? 17:54:55 ding: like every 3 weeks at-most =) and yes major releases would still be on time with all the other OS components 17:55:40 currently it's just one of the thoughts, that are brewing =) 17:59:17 ding: I'm looking at ironic's model basically as role-model 17:59:23 ok thanks folks for joining today 17:59:35 see you in #murano if you have any more questions 17:59:38 #endmeeting