17:01:00 #startmeeting murano 17:01:00 Meeting started Tue Jan 31 17:01:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:04 The meeting name has been set to 'murano' 17:01:30 #topic rollcall 17:01:33 o/ 17:01:54 O/ 17:02:38 felipemonteiro_: hi =) congrats on becoming a PTL-elect =)) 17:02:58 o/ 17:03:08 kzaitsev_mb: Thank you, couldn't have done it with you & your team's support. 17:03:33 Congrats! 17:03:47 learnmore_: Thanks 17:04:45 #topic Open Discussion 17:05:01 so. anything to discuss, folks? 17:06:14 Not really. I entered 2 blueprints this morning. And now looking into uploading an application into the community catalog. Just checked in to this meeting to see if any news. 17:06:48 kzaitsev_mb: I have some things in mind for the PTG, but haven't added anything to the doc you sent out last time. Was wondering what you had in mind first. 17:07:55 not really — we probably should work with felipemonteiro on the PTG agenda. mine would mostly be transferring the rights and giving any info/updates I can 17:08:28 I'd also like to know what happens with glare, although I'm 99% sure mike fedosin is not coming 17:08:40 and the app catalog — they have a new PTL also 17:09:32 I'd say that we should deprecate glare v0.1 — there is little chance anyone is going to support it and work on moving to glare v1 17:10:23 kzaitsev_mb: Yes, I read the discussion between Serg Melikyan and others in openstack-dev about it. I also think that the UI should better support glare. 17:10:43 Which I've already personally started doing :) 17:10:51 felipemonteiro: no, I mean we should support the supported version of glare ) 17:11:55 Yes, I recall Mikhail saying: "Serg, you forgot that Glare v1 != Glare v0.1. " 17:13:13 v0.1 was written when glare was glance v3, then it was glance-glare 17:13:13 Should a blueprint be added for moving to Glare V1? 17:13:25 learnmore_: yeah, good idea 17:14:08 so then they decided that we had it too easy, so they rewrote 0.1 to 1.0 17:14:17 and they're incompatible 17:14:19 =) 17:15:20 and no one really supports 0.1 anymore =) we had internal agreement with mike, that at least he would bugfix support it. but since he's no longer with mirantis — I'm pretty sure the deal is off ) 17:15:37 It's too bad they are incompatible. So for the time being, we will have to support both versions since deprecated does not mean removed. 17:16:12 learnmore_: I'd say we should deprecate it, since glance has also deprecated it 17:16:28 learnmore_: that's another point to talk to glance guys on the status of their deprecation 17:17:03 cause if glance removes that code, say in Pike — there would no longer be any glare 0.1 =) 17:17:36 so our support of v0.1 is tied to that code being emoved 17:17:41 or kept 17:18:20 kzaitsev_mb: Do you have any estimate on how long it make time to do the migration from v0.1 to v1 if needed? 17:18:26 Good to know. Felipemonteiro: I assume you will follow up with glance, yes? 17:19:11 learnmore_: I'd say it's one of the topics to discus with glance guys on the PTG ) 17:19:14 learnmore_: I'll definitely reach out to them. 17:20:06 felipemonteiro: first — we need to reach out to mike and see if they finally released the client. If they did — adding v1.0 support should be pretty trivial 17:20:36 kzaitsev_mb: Good. I was worried the API would have changed, requiring a lot more code changes. 17:20:51 for 0.1 client is embedded in muranoclient (one of the decisions I'm not so proud of) 17:23:08 On another note, I've noticed tempest gates failing for stable releases -- but only a few cores have +2 rights on stable release. I could backport a patch to get those tempest gates passing, but it might take a while to get merged. 17:24:13 felipemonteiro: yeah thanks for reminding — I'm going to add you to release branch 17:25:15 kzaitsev_mb: Thanks. I think right now we have 3+ patches backed up b/c of that. I also think non-glare muranodashboard is failing outright, because it's saying Firefox plugin isn't installed. 17:25:43 for backports the policy is lighter, but the number of cores is smaller 17:26:18 kzaitsev_mb: What do you mean by lighter policy? You only need 1 +2 to merge? 17:26:35 http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#review-guidelines 17:26:41 Thanks. 17:27:06 Each backported commit proposed to Gerrit should be reviewed and +2ed by two project-specific stable maintenance team members before it is approved. Where a team member has backported a fix, a single other +2 is sufficient for approval. 17:27:19 meaning you still need 2 +2 17:27:38 but if you have +2 and you're backporting a fix to stable branch — your +2 counts 17:27:46 unlike master ) 17:28:05 Ah, so you can +2 yourself. 17:29:06 kzaitsev_mb: Will Mirantis still maintain the various gates during Pike? Is this something I need to be concerned about? 17:31:22 felipemonteiro: hm, good question — I'll ask around 17:33:01 kzaitsev_mb: Thanks, this is not an area I'm too familiar with. But we have a lot of deployment experts where I work that I could talk to as well. 17:34:35 the CI is running on Mirantis hardware & I haven't heard of any plans for it to stop. however the devstack it's running on need maintenance from time to time. the deployment scripts (and CI config) are all available through deployment repo 17:35:03 but access to the underlying lab — I don't think even I have it ) 17:35:11 but anyway — I'll ask around ) 17:37:13 kzaitsev_mb: Interesting. 17:40:06 kzaitsev_mb: Do you believe core participation will remain the same in Pike? Otherwise my intention is to coach others to contribute enough to warrant core status -- which is no easy task. 17:41:26 felipemonteiro: it's always a good idea to coach more cores ) 17:41:41 kzaitsev_mb: Ha, agreed. 17:41:42 and it's always a hard task ) 17:42:10 By the way, I added OSC plugin support to the patchset you reviewed earlier. 17:42:19 we have 3-5 active cores at the moment ) 17:42:29 you and I included 17:42:40 so I'd say — we're in a stable position 17:43:07 when I've first joined Murano — getting a patch in was harder than today ;) 17:43:38 kzaitsev_mb: That's very reassuring. I've gone to Heat dashboard (no offense to anyone there) and they have about 20 - 30 patches in need of 2nd +2. 17:49:01 I guess that's all for today? =) 17:49:36 Yes from me. 17:50:00 kzaitsev_mb: Same. 17:50:47 let's save 10 mins of our lives then )) 17:51:02 :) 17:51:03 thanks for coming, looking forward to seeing you guys on the PTG 17:51:14 #endmeeting