17:00:34 <felipemonteiro> #startmeeting murano 17:00:35 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Feb 14 17:00:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is felipemonteiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:36 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:38 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'murano' 17:00:59 <felipemonteiro> #topic Roll Call 17:01:05 <felipemonteiro> o/ 17:01:15 <learnmore_> o/ 17:01:30 <felipemonteiro> Hi learnmore_ 17:01:55 <learnmore_> Hello 17:02:33 <learnmore_> No one else joining? 17:03:34 <kzaitsev_mb> o/ 17:03:40 <kzaitsev_mb> hi folks ) 17:03:55 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_mb: Hi 17:04:07 <learnmore_> kzaitsev_mb: Hi 17:05:39 <felipemonteiro> #topic Open Discussion 17:06:02 <felipemonteiro> Thanks kzaitsev_mb for creating the stable/ocata release for murano: #link https://review.openstack.org/433604 17:06:52 <learnmore_> I have a question. On the blueprints page for the new UI, there are 3 reviews listed. I noticed all of them have been abandoned. Does anyone know why? 17:06:54 <kzaitsev_mb> felipemonteiro: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/251,members here's the group for ptl 17:07:07 <kzaitsev_mb> I'm not sure it does anything though =) 17:07:19 <kzaitsev_mb> have just deleted myself from there 17:07:46 <kzaitsev_mb> also pls ping me for any l-pad groups you want me to add you to 17:08:33 <felipemonteiro> learnmore_: Do you mean for example #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/dynamic-fields-on-service-details 17:09:18 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_mb: Thanks, will do. Did you see AJaeger's message to you yesterday? Asked about disabling python34 Jenkins gate for stable/mitaka 17:09:21 <felipemonteiro> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429051/ 17:09:50 <kzaitsev_mb> #link https://review.openstack.org/433604 17:10:05 <kzaitsev_mb> link only works if it's at the begining of the line ) 17:10:18 <felipemonteiro> Thanks :) 17:10:23 <kzaitsev_mb> nope, did not see that one. 17:10:30 <kzaitsev_mb> would do so today 17:10:34 <kzaitsev_mb> let me fetch the logs 17:10:51 <kzaitsev_mb> my workstation got disconnected so I again lost my bot =( 17:11:16 <kzaitsev_mb> should probably launch a VM somewhere with the bot 17:11:31 <learnmore_> felipemonteiro: this is the one I was referring to: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/schema-driven-ui 17:11:55 <felipemonteiro> There's also an issue with KeystoneV2AuthProvider in the tempest gate for stable/mitaka 17:12:04 <felipemonteiro> #link http://logs.openstack.org/51/429051/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-murano-api-ubuntu-trusty/e3d0fde/console.html.gz 17:14:58 <kzaitsev_mb> felipemonteiro: so we need to investigate py34 job, or is it a known issue and we should just disable it right away? 17:16:18 <felipemonteiro> learnmore_: That would be for the client-side. I wasn't around when development for that took place, so not sure. I would reach out to Timur Sufiev 17:16:26 <felipemonteiro> #link https://launchpad.net/~tsufiev-x 17:17:12 <learnmore_> felipemonteiro: Thanks. I will do that. 17:17:12 <kzaitsev_mb> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23murano/%23murano.2017-02-13.log.html#t2017-02-13T18:56:49 17:17:16 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_mb: I'm wondering when py34 support was added to stable/mitaka. It's been causing issues for a while. 17:18:19 <felipemonteiro> learnmore_: A lot of the server-side commits were merged though 17:18:20 <felipemonteiro> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/muranopl-forms 17:19:09 <kzaitsev_mb> ugh there's a surge of stable/ocata patches ))) 17:19:27 <learnmore_> felipemonteiro: Yes, It is very good that the server-side commits were done. That gives us a good start. 17:20:02 <kzaitsev_mb> #action kzaitsev_mb look into https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429051/ and py34 job for stable/mitaka 17:20:21 <kzaitsev_mb> I'll see what's wrong with the gates and whether we can fix it 17:21:23 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_mb: I need to look into py27 bug I see in stable/ocata release for murano too 17:21:30 <felipemonteiro> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433723/ 17:21:57 <felipemonteiro> It might be a very deceptive bug, having to do with mock (in another test file) mocking out something in a different test file 17:23:57 <kzaitsev_mb> felipemonteiro: that one looks straightforward 17:24:20 <kzaitsev_mb> wouldn't a simple 'http://foo_glare_url' fix the issue? 17:25:04 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_mb: Yes, I thought so too. Like I said, I'll look into it. It may be very easy to fix, or require chasing down a mock conflict like I said. 17:25:20 <kzaitsev_mb> oh, ok ) 17:25:44 <kzaitsev_mb> gates have this tendency to start falling apart around release time %) 17:26:04 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_mb: Also wanted to bring up what I think an Oracle dev wanted to remove: 17:26:07 <felipemonteiro> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429889/ 17:26:47 <felipemonteiro> They want to remove this, couldn't find any info on it. If we remove unsupported packages, then I don't see the problem. 17:28:20 <kzaitsev_mb> well yep 17:28:49 <felipemonteiro> I just think the timing is strange b/c it was merged in about 10 - 11 months ago 17:28:55 <kzaitsev_mb> the only thing is this was an example of integrating with an external service 17:28:57 <felipemonteiro> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266521/ 17:29:56 <kzaitsev_mb> but well, if folks don't want to support it anymore. I see little harm in actually removing the thing 17:30:09 <kzaitsev_mb> it's still in git history you know 17:30:19 <kzaitsev_mb> but having some rationale would be great though 17:30:40 <kzaitsev_mb> oh, it's in the commit message 17:31:00 <felipemonteiro> He came into #murano last week and kept asking that it be removed 17:31:41 <kzaitsev_mb> yep saw that, but was busy unfortunatelly =( 17:32:04 <felipemonteiro> Any other open discussion items? Otherwise wanted to talk about PTG 17:33:10 <learnmore_> So do you both agree that the package should be removed and will be? 17:33:56 <learnmore_> Just saw the +2 from Kirill. 17:34:28 <felipemonteiro> learnmore_: Yeah, I just wanted advice, because this would be the first time for me removing a large chunk of code from murano 17:35:19 <learnmore_> Onto the PTG, then 17:35:42 <felipemonteiro> #topic Atlanta PTG 17:36:17 <felipemonteiro> Most other teams are cancelling the IRC meeting next week, if there weren't any objections, I think we should do the same? 17:36:52 <kzaitsev_mb> sure 17:37:10 <kzaitsev_mb> that's usual thing around summit/ptg events 17:38:36 <felipemonteiro> Ok, I'll send out an openstack-dev reminder about that 17:40:05 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_mb: So far you and Stan Lagun said you'd meet in an unofficial capacity at the PTG. Was wondering what this would entail. 17:40:21 <kzaitsev_mb> ok, I actually have a bunch of things I'd love to discus on ptg as part of ptl transition and general direction ) 17:40:34 <kzaitsev_mb> 1) release model/schedule 17:40:57 <kzaitsev_mb> we switched to cycle-with-intermediary in hopes of having faster, shorter releases 17:41:01 <kzaitsev_mb> but that didn't happen =( 17:41:11 <kzaitsev_mb> so maybe it would be a good idea to switch back? 17:41:18 <kzaitsev_mb> we only have untill p-1 to do so 17:41:51 <kzaitsev_mb> 2) we had an initiative that ensured, that murano would be runnable on a prev version of openstack 17:42:12 <learnmore_> what is p-1? 17:42:33 <kzaitsev_mb> part of that is gate-murano-tox-py27-mitaka branch 17:42:41 <kzaitsev_mb> p-1 is for pike-1 17:42:55 <kzaitsev_mb> https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html 17:42:59 <kzaitsev_mb> pike-1 milestone 17:43:13 <learnmore_> Thanks. I am hoping that Pike will be released later this year. 17:43:27 <kzaitsev_mb> hm. I thought I saw an email today with a compiled schedule 17:43:46 <felipemonteiro> Do you mind updating https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-atlanta-ptg 17:43:53 <kzaitsev_mb> well yeah. the other option is cycle-with-milestones 17:44:05 <felipemonteiro> #link https://releases.openstack.org/reference/release_models.html 17:44:07 <kzaitsev_mb> sure, would do 17:45:22 <kzaitsev_mb> so the question is — do we add tox-newton, delete tox-mitaka, leave both or delete both. It's an open question — on whether we would like to persue that idea 17:45:35 <learnmore_> We are depending on some features in Pike and would like to see this released this year. 17:46:59 <kzaitsev_mb> well I wouldn't have any hard feelings about the jobs ) 17:47:14 <kzaitsev_mb> just want to have a consolidated opinion ) 17:47:28 <kzaitsev_mb> I think I'll explain the rationale we had behind them at the PTG 17:47:29 <felipemonteiro> learnmore_: Which features? Could you be more specific :) If you attending the PTG, you could include your items on the etherpad too 17:48:11 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_mb: I'll need to look at the difference between tox-mitaka and tox-newton jobs first. 17:48:16 <kzaitsev_mb> learnmore_: it's not about not adding new features. It's about being able to run murano code on -1 version of openstack code 17:48:43 <kzaitsev_mb> or -2 =) 17:48:52 <kzaitsev_mb> felipemonteiro: that's the catch =) there is no such job ) 17:48:58 <kzaitsev_mb> now is the time to create it 17:49:05 <kzaitsev_mb> or update the tox-mitaka 17:49:15 <felipemonteiro> Do you meangate-murano-tox-py27-mitaka-ubuntu-xenial? 17:49:15 <kzaitsev_mb> or decide that we don't want it anymore ) 17:49:56 <kzaitsev_mb> yeah. it's not a universal job, that everyone has. We added it to murano to get some guarantee that it can run using only mitaka requirements 17:50:31 <kzaitsev_mb> my number 3 is glare related, but it's already on the list ) 17:50:35 <kzaitsev_mb> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-atlanta-ptg 17:50:38 <kzaitsev_mb> btw 17:50:40 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_mb: I believe Tempest has both newton and mitaka gates. 17:50:52 <kzaitsev_mb> mfedosin: is going to attend =) the glare de-facto PTL ) 17:50:52 <felipemonteiro> Thanks! 17:51:31 <kzaitsev_mb> felipemonteiro: gate-murano-tox-py27-mitaka is a job, that runs tox -e py27-mitaka, not tempest ) nobody has it but us I believe ) 17:51:51 <kzaitsev_mb> oh, you probably meant that tempest has similar gate jobs 17:52:19 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_mb: I meant the Tempest project has gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-trusty-mitaka and gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial-newton 17:52:34 <kzaitsev_mb> yeah, got that a minute too late =) 17:52:54 <felipemonteiro> So if I understood you, you want to add a new job for newton as well as mitaka to Murano? To check whether it runs correctly on -1 and -2? 17:54:24 <kzaitsev_mb> I want to discuss if we need an old one, actually ) 17:54:34 <felipemonteiro> Btw, we have about 5 minutes left, so just wanted to ask about schedule. Even if we meet unofficially, I think we need to figure one out, otherwise I will email openstack-dev about scheduling. 17:54:52 <felipemonteiro> For me it doesn't matter since I live in Atlanta, but for everyone else, it does. 17:55:14 <kzaitsev_mb> I'd suggest to crash into the community-app-catalog area ) 17:55:28 <kzaitsev_mb> I'd like to meet the new PTL anyway 17:56:09 <kzaitsev_mb> is there a schedule with rooms assigned, or smth like that anywhere? 17:56:54 <felipemonteiro> Yes, there's even one for cross-project collaboration, let me find it 17:58:30 <felipemonteiro> I'll forward it to you after the meeting, can't find it with the time we have left. 17:59:51 <felipemonteiro> Thanks everyone for meeting, I'll send out an email with more details 18:00:08 <kzaitsev_mb> thanks! 18:00:12 <felipemonteiro> #endmeeting