17:00:34 #startmeeting murano 17:00:35 Meeting started Tue Feb 14 17:00:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is felipemonteiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:36 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:38 The meeting name has been set to 'murano' 17:00:59 #topic Roll Call 17:01:05 o/ 17:01:15 o/ 17:01:30 Hi learnmore_ 17:01:55 Hello 17:02:33 No one else joining? 17:03:34 o/ 17:03:40 hi folks ) 17:03:55 kzaitsev_mb: Hi 17:04:07 kzaitsev_mb: Hi 17:05:39 #topic Open Discussion 17:06:02 Thanks kzaitsev_mb for creating the stable/ocata release for murano: #link https://review.openstack.org/433604 17:06:52 I have a question. On the blueprints page for the new UI, there are 3 reviews listed. I noticed all of them have been abandoned. Does anyone know why? 17:06:54 felipemonteiro: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/251,members here's the group for ptl 17:07:07 I'm not sure it does anything though =) 17:07:19 have just deleted myself from there 17:07:46 also pls ping me for any l-pad groups you want me to add you to 17:08:33 learnmore_: Do you mean for example #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/dynamic-fields-on-service-details 17:09:18 kzaitsev_mb: Thanks, will do. Did you see AJaeger's message to you yesterday? Asked about disabling python34 Jenkins gate for stable/mitaka 17:09:21 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429051/ 17:09:50 #link https://review.openstack.org/433604 17:10:05 link only works if it's at the begining of the line ) 17:10:18 Thanks :) 17:10:23 nope, did not see that one. 17:10:30 would do so today 17:10:34 let me fetch the logs 17:10:51 my workstation got disconnected so I again lost my bot =( 17:11:16 should probably launch a VM somewhere with the bot 17:11:31 felipemonteiro: this is the one I was referring to: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/schema-driven-ui 17:11:55 There's also an issue with KeystoneV2AuthProvider in the tempest gate for stable/mitaka 17:12:04 #link http://logs.openstack.org/51/429051/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-murano-api-ubuntu-trusty/e3d0fde/console.html.gz 17:14:58 felipemonteiro: so we need to investigate py34 job, or is it a known issue and we should just disable it right away? 17:16:18 learnmore_: That would be for the client-side. I wasn't around when development for that took place, so not sure. I would reach out to Timur Sufiev 17:16:26 #link https://launchpad.net/~tsufiev-x 17:17:12 felipemonteiro: Thanks. I will do that. 17:17:12 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23murano/%23murano.2017-02-13.log.html#t2017-02-13T18:56:49 17:17:16 kzaitsev_mb: I'm wondering when py34 support was added to stable/mitaka. It's been causing issues for a while. 17:18:19 learnmore_: A lot of the server-side commits were merged though 17:18:20 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/muranopl-forms 17:19:09 ugh there's a surge of stable/ocata patches ))) 17:19:27 felipemonteiro: Yes, It is very good that the server-side commits were done. That gives us a good start. 17:20:02 #action kzaitsev_mb look into https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429051/ and py34 job for stable/mitaka 17:20:21 I'll see what's wrong with the gates and whether we can fix it 17:21:23 kzaitsev_mb: I need to look into py27 bug I see in stable/ocata release for murano too 17:21:30 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433723/ 17:21:57 It might be a very deceptive bug, having to do with mock (in another test file) mocking out something in a different test file 17:23:57 felipemonteiro: that one looks straightforward 17:24:20 wouldn't a simple 'http://foo_glare_url' fix the issue? 17:25:04 kzaitsev_mb: Yes, I thought so too. Like I said, I'll look into it. It may be very easy to fix, or require chasing down a mock conflict like I said. 17:25:20 oh, ok ) 17:25:44 gates have this tendency to start falling apart around release time %) 17:26:04 kzaitsev_mb: Also wanted to bring up what I think an Oracle dev wanted to remove: 17:26:07 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429889/ 17:26:47 They want to remove this, couldn't find any info on it. If we remove unsupported packages, then I don't see the problem. 17:28:20 well yep 17:28:49 I just think the timing is strange b/c it was merged in about 10 - 11 months ago 17:28:55 the only thing is this was an example of integrating with an external service 17:28:57 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266521/ 17:29:56 but well, if folks don't want to support it anymore. I see little harm in actually removing the thing 17:30:09 it's still in git history you know 17:30:19 but having some rationale would be great though 17:30:40 oh, it's in the commit message 17:31:00 He came into #murano last week and kept asking that it be removed 17:31:41 yep saw that, but was busy unfortunatelly =( 17:32:04 Any other open discussion items? Otherwise wanted to talk about PTG 17:33:10 So do you both agree that the package should be removed and will be? 17:33:56 Just saw the +2 from Kirill. 17:34:28 learnmore_: Yeah, I just wanted advice, because this would be the first time for me removing a large chunk of code from murano 17:35:19 Onto the PTG, then 17:35:42 #topic Atlanta PTG 17:36:17 Most other teams are cancelling the IRC meeting next week, if there weren't any objections, I think we should do the same? 17:36:52 sure 17:37:10 that's usual thing around summit/ptg events 17:38:36 Ok, I'll send out an openstack-dev reminder about that 17:40:05 kzaitsev_mb: So far you and Stan Lagun said you'd meet in an unofficial capacity at the PTG. Was wondering what this would entail. 17:40:21 ok, I actually have a bunch of things I'd love to discus on ptg as part of ptl transition and general direction ) 17:40:34 1) release model/schedule 17:40:57 we switched to cycle-with-intermediary in hopes of having faster, shorter releases 17:41:01 but that didn't happen =( 17:41:11 so maybe it would be a good idea to switch back? 17:41:18 we only have untill p-1 to do so 17:41:51 2) we had an initiative that ensured, that murano would be runnable on a prev version of openstack 17:42:12 what is p-1? 17:42:33 part of that is gate-murano-tox-py27-mitaka branch 17:42:41 p-1 is for pike-1 17:42:55 https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html 17:42:59 pike-1 milestone 17:43:13 Thanks. I am hoping that Pike will be released later this year. 17:43:27 hm. I thought I saw an email today with a compiled schedule 17:43:46 Do you mind updating https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-atlanta-ptg 17:43:53 well yeah. the other option is cycle-with-milestones 17:44:05 #link https://releases.openstack.org/reference/release_models.html 17:44:07 sure, would do 17:45:22 so the question is — do we add tox-newton, delete tox-mitaka, leave both or delete both. It's an open question — on whether we would like to persue that idea 17:45:35 We are depending on some features in Pike and would like to see this released this year. 17:46:59 well I wouldn't have any hard feelings about the jobs ) 17:47:14 just want to have a consolidated opinion ) 17:47:28 I think I'll explain the rationale we had behind them at the PTG 17:47:29 learnmore_: Which features? Could you be more specific :) If you attending the PTG, you could include your items on the etherpad too 17:48:11 kzaitsev_mb: I'll need to look at the difference between tox-mitaka and tox-newton jobs first. 17:48:16 learnmore_: it's not about not adding new features. It's about being able to run murano code on -1 version of openstack code 17:48:43 or -2 =) 17:48:52 felipemonteiro: that's the catch =) there is no such job ) 17:48:58 now is the time to create it 17:49:05 or update the tox-mitaka 17:49:15 Do you meangate-murano-tox-py27-mitaka-ubuntu-xenial? 17:49:15 or decide that we don't want it anymore ) 17:49:56 yeah. it's not a universal job, that everyone has. We added it to murano to get some guarantee that it can run using only mitaka requirements 17:50:31 my number 3 is glare related, but it's already on the list ) 17:50:35 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-atlanta-ptg 17:50:38 btw 17:50:40 kzaitsev_mb: I believe Tempest has both newton and mitaka gates. 17:50:52 mfedosin: is going to attend =) the glare de-facto PTL ) 17:50:52 Thanks! 17:51:31 felipemonteiro: gate-murano-tox-py27-mitaka is a job, that runs tox -e py27-mitaka, not tempest ) nobody has it but us I believe ) 17:51:51 oh, you probably meant that tempest has similar gate jobs 17:52:19 kzaitsev_mb: I meant the Tempest project has gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-trusty-mitaka and gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial-newton 17:52:34 yeah, got that a minute too late =) 17:52:54 So if I understood you, you want to add a new job for newton as well as mitaka to Murano? To check whether it runs correctly on -1 and -2? 17:54:24 I want to discuss if we need an old one, actually ) 17:54:34 Btw, we have about 5 minutes left, so just wanted to ask about schedule. Even if we meet unofficially, I think we need to figure one out, otherwise I will email openstack-dev about scheduling. 17:54:52 For me it doesn't matter since I live in Atlanta, but for everyone else, it does. 17:55:14 I'd suggest to crash into the community-app-catalog area ) 17:55:28 I'd like to meet the new PTL anyway 17:56:09 is there a schedule with rooms assigned, or smth like that anywhere? 17:56:54 Yes, there's even one for cross-project collaboration, let me find it 17:58:30 I'll forward it to you after the meeting, can't find it with the time we have left. 17:59:51 Thanks everyone for meeting, I'll send out an email with more details 18:00:08 thanks! 18:00:12 #endmeeting