17:00:46 <felipemonteiro> #startmeeting murano
17:00:47 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Jun  6 17:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is felipemonteiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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17:00:50 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'murano'
17:00:53 <felipemonteiro> #topic Roll Call
17:01:17 <felipemonteiro> o/
17:01:31 <kzaitsev_> o/
17:01:43 <kzaitsev_> from my phone here :)
17:02:13 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_: nice
17:02:53 <kzaitsev_> my schedule shifted a bit so the meeting is now around the time I'm heading home :(
17:03:01 <felipemonteiro> shouldn't be a long meeting as this time is currently incovenient to many
17:03:10 <felipemonteiro> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468182/
17:03:16 <felipemonteiro> linking for archives
17:03:42 <felipemonteiro> usually infra reviews really fast, hopefully it gets merged before next meeting
17:04:30 <kzaitsev_> well we can always just put that to ML and have next meeting on new time :)
17:04:38 <felipemonteiro> #topic Open Discussion
17:05:10 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_: i was attempted but i didn't reschedule today because of worse case situation where another project did the same thing with another open review
17:05:16 <felipemonteiro> tempted*
17:05:45 <kzaitsev_> this week is pike-2 week, so I'm going to request respective releases tomorrow
17:06:19 <felipemonteiro> thanks
17:06:33 <felipemonteiro> the policy stuff should be done before pike-3
17:06:51 <kzaitsev_99> my connection may disappear for a couple of moments. will be better in a min
17:08:27 <felipemonteiro> wanted to ask you about api versioning in murano...i don't believe it's currently supported?
17:09:22 <kzaitsev_99> I believe there was a letter, that all libraries should release before p-2 so there'll be client release also
17:09:40 <kzaitsev_99> you mean micro-versions?
17:10:10 <felipemonteiro> yes, api wg will require it going forward for pretty much most api changes
17:10:35 <kzaitsev_99> well, generally no. i don't think we implemented micro versions
17:11:19 <felipemonteiro> something i'll look at for next release because many things in the api are unclear or inconsistent, imo it could undergo some cleaning up
17:11:24 <kzaitsev_99> there probably was some discussion back in the day. but i don't think there ever was a bp or smth
17:12:58 <felipemonteiro> also looks like freerunner is attempting to get murano ci to work with xenial?
17:13:56 <kzaitsev_> he's still with mirantis and in a different city than i am :) i'll try to ping him :)
17:14:04 <kzaitsev_> to get some info
17:14:49 <kzaitsev_> saw both yours and his CI patches.
17:15:13 <kzaitsev_> also the cinder tests got super annoying lately :(
17:15:36 <felipemonteiro> i experimented with putting it in infra (for murano) but i don't think it's viable. i do believe it can be done with murano dashboard ci and splitting classes across multiple gates.
17:15:49 <felipemonteiro> haven't been focusing on it though because keep getting dragged into different things
17:16:13 <felipemonteiro> but if freerunner fixes murano ci internally that would be ideal
17:17:12 <kzaitsev_> freerunner: used to brag, he understands how to make infra run CI tests, but I never got down in the weeds of how to do that
17:17:18 <kzaitsev_> :)
17:17:35 <felipemonteiro> yes, cinder tests have been. some functions in murano's tempest plugin might need to be looked at for proper clean up. some places even use deprecated functionality and other gotchas if i remember correctly.
17:18:12 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_: did it for patrole, our company project, very annoying, but absolutely necessary for testing framework
17:19:52 <felipemonteiro> don't know if you saw, pbourke also has a spec up
17:20:00 <felipemonteiro> i have yet to read through it, will try to get to it today
17:20:39 <kzaitsev_> saw, reviewed a bit. need to go through the 2d ver
17:21:02 <kzaitsev_> i'm mostly ok with it as long as it's optional.
17:21:56 <felipemonteiro> yes because it opts to use Castellan which is external resource
17:22:17 <kzaitsev_> ideally the encryption thing should be pluggable, so that we could get a dummy plugin or smth more complex
17:22:20 <felipemonteiro> although i believe that once implemented documentation should be written to encourage its use for obvious reasons
17:22:32 <kzaitsev_> although..
17:23:38 <kzaitsev_> no it's probably better not to tempt users :) if you want encryption — use Barbican :) if not — ok but not smth homebrewrd
17:24:02 <kzaitsev_> will disappear for a sec
17:25:51 <felipemonteiro> i haven't looked through castellan project, i figured it was a wrapper around barbican and other storage back-ends
17:30:43 <felipemonteiro> kzaitsev_: anything else for discussion? appears  no one else is joining us this week
17:31:32 <kzaitsev_> nope.
17:31:48 <kzaitsev_> was glad to hear from you :)
17:32:10 <felipemonteiro> same, thanks for joining and congrats on the new job at...samsung?
17:32:29 <kzaitsev_> yeah :)
17:33:03 <felipemonteiro> will end a bit early then this week, hopefully our new meeting time gets approved for next week so we get better attendance
17:33:06 <kzaitsev_> i keep my stackalytics account updated :)
17:33:25 <felipemonteiro> i was curious as to whether you were in russia to determine your time zone :)
17:34:10 <felipemonteiro> see you next wee
17:34:11 <felipemonteiro> k
17:34:39 <kzaitsev_> yep i'm in moscow :)
17:34:57 <kzaitsev_> k. see you :)
17:35:17 <felipemonteiro> #endmeeting