21:01:46 <markmcclain> #startmeeting Networking
21:01:47 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Jan 13 21:01:46 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:02:01 <markmcclain> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings
21:02:11 <markmcclain> #topic Announcements
21:02:24 <armax> here
21:02:30 <emagana> Hello All!! I'm back!
21:02:34 <markmcclain> The Tempest/Neutron code sprint starts this week
21:02:47 <sc68cal> hello
21:02:48 * mestery waves at emagana.
21:02:52 <markmcclain> we'll talk about it later in the agenda
21:02:55 <markmcclain> emagana: wb
21:03:10 <markmcclain> #info Icehouse-2 deadline is Jan 23rd
21:03:24 <dkehn> markmcclain: are you in wonderful Montreal
21:03:26 <markmcclain> #info code should be proposed by Jan 21st for I-2
21:03:46 <markmcclain> dkehn: no I'm in a much warmer location: Atlanta
21:04:03 <dkehn> k, I was going to ask hows the weather
21:04:05 <markmcclain> additionally the 3rd party testing deadline is next week too
21:04:40 <markmcclain> we have many systems reporting, but there are few that aren't or are returning incorrect results
21:05:17 <markmcclain> I'll be reaching out to the contacts this week to sync up for those without testing enabled and voting
21:05:41 <Sukhdev> markmcclain: what is the expectation in terms of the tests to run and the details of logs to report back?
21:06:08 <markmcclain> Sukhdev: the expectation is that a full tempest test be run and the logs be publicly available
21:06:27 <sc68cal> markmcclain: I see some that are voting but do not post logs, like Midokura CI Bot
21:06:28 <markmcclain> otherwise in the case of a failure proposers will not be able to triage the failures
21:06:28 <armax> markmcclain: when you say full tempest
21:06:36 <armax> are you saying smoke+gate
21:06:44 <armax> as the other jenkins neutron runs?
21:06:46 <markmcclain> sc68cal: right I'll be reaching out to those folks
21:07:00 <markmcclain> armax: yes
21:07:15 <armax> that's what we've been doing with vmware mine sweepr
21:07:17 <armax> gotcha
21:07:19 <armax> thanks
21:07:20 <sc68cal> Public logs should be a preqreq for voting
21:07:27 <markmcclain> if that causes for folks please PM or email me
21:07:32 <markmcclain> sc68cal: they are
21:07:45 <sc68cal> looks like people aren't respecting that
21:08:14 <markmcclain> sc68cal: infra made changes recently to not allow systems to vote until the reliability has been proven
21:08:22 <markmcclain> that includes posting logs
21:08:25 <sc68cal> ok - I'll shut up now :)
21:08:43 <markmcclain> a few of the early systems may have slipped through
21:09:32 <markmcclain> lastly… I've got a new email address
21:09:45 <dkehn> here it comes
21:09:49 <mestery> :)
21:09:54 <emagana> markmcclain: congs on the move!
21:10:02 <markmcclain> mmcclain at yahoo-inc.com
21:10:51 <dkehn> cue crickets
21:10:53 <markmcclain> The move allows me to continue focusing on upstream
21:10:55 <arosen> haha
21:11:02 <markmcclain> emagana: thanks
21:11:13 <arosen> ^cue cricks* Congrats
21:11:19 <dkehn> awesome
21:11:20 <marun> congrats!
21:11:37 <enikanorov_> cool
21:11:42 <beagles> nice
21:11:46 <Sukhdev> contrats!!!
21:11:50 <markmcclain> Thanks all!
21:11:53 <dkehn> arosen: when its quiet like that all you can hear in the crickets
21:12:03 <dkehn> s/in/is/
21:12:04 <gongysh> congrats.
21:12:22 <nati_uen_> congrats!
21:12:32 <markmcclain> There's lots to cover this week on the agenda, so let's dive in
21:12:46 <markmcclain> #topic Bugs
21:13:26 <markmcclain> Last week many of you probably felt the pain of extremely long merge queue
21:14:21 <markmcclain> it was really a combination of critical bugs piling up causing lots of gate resets
21:14:47 <markmcclain> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=Critical&field.status=New&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress
21:15:00 <markmcclain> we're got 4 critical bugs
21:15:23 <markmcclain> salv-orlando is stuck on a plane
21:15:41 <markmcclain> but has tracked down a solution for 1253896
21:15:55 <markmcclain> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1253896
21:15:57 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1253896 in neutron "Attempts to verify guests are running via SSH fails. SSH connection to guest does not work." [Critical,In progress]
21:16:09 <markmcclain> he expects to post a revised patch soon
21:16:41 <markmcclain> there are also patches up for review for parallel testing tempest
21:17:08 <nati_uen_> cool
21:17:09 <markmcclain> those are some good patches to get more core review cycles especially heading into Montreal this week
21:17:36 <enikanorov_> how do you check if the bug is hit recently?
21:17:38 <markmcclain> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/neutron-tempest-parallel,n,z
21:17:47 <enikanorov_> is there tools other than kibana?
21:18:00 <markmcclain> enikanorov_: logstash+kibana is the best way
21:18:08 <enikanorov_> i see
21:18:23 <enikanorov_> i dont see hits for bug 1210483 for the last 7 days
21:18:25 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1210483 in neutron "ServerAddressesTestXML.test_list_server_addresses FAIL" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1210483
21:18:44 <markmcclain> enikanorov_: ok.. make a note of that in bug
21:18:50 <enikanorov_> ok
21:18:51 <markmcclain> and we can re-triage it
21:19:03 <markmcclain> any other critical bugs we need to discuss?
21:19:26 <markmcclain> #topic Docs
21:19:29 <markmcclain> emagana: hi
21:19:44 <emagana> Hello there!  Still catching up
21:20:19 <markmcclain> ok that's fine.. when you're up to speed feel free to up the community via the ML
21:20:25 <markmcclain> #topic Nova Parity
21:20:27 <markmcclain> beagles: hi
21:20:30 <emagana> It seems that HA documentation is quite outdated, there is a proposal for deprecating some section, EmilienM already sent me some proposals
21:20:38 <beagles> hi!
21:20:42 <markmcclain> emagana: great
21:20:45 <emagana> markmcclain: sure, I will do
21:21:01 <markmcclain> beagles: big report
21:21:08 <markmcclain> any highlights you'd like to cover?
21:21:27 <beagles> yes, a lot has been going on... some of which I've uncovered just today. Thanks to everyone!
21:21:48 <beagles> I'd like to highlight the NotImplemented exceptions in the neutronv2/api.py
21:22:26 <beagles> Some of these are probably low hanging fruit and some may require input from more savvy indiividuals
21:23:02 <markmcclain> ok.. so we'll need to create bugs and triage?
21:23:06 <beagles> two things about it then are I was thinking it would be good to represent these through launchpad bugs and ...
21:23:32 <markmcclain> +1 to creating LP bugs
21:23:35 <beagles> yes.. maybe if we could sketch out a 1/2 hour or so at some point and 3 or 4 of us just collaboratively drive through the triage
21:23:54 <markmcclain> I'll be stuck on a plane for a few hours tomorrow
21:23:55 <beagles> the list isn't *all* that long and the nature of the APIs are typically pretty simple
21:24:01 <beagles> yup...
21:24:23 <beagles> I'll create the bz's this week.. .maybe if we can do it early next if they haven't been gotten to already ;)
21:24:37 <markmcclain> I'll ping you offline about collaborating on triaging the bugs
21:24:42 <beagles> cool
21:24:54 <markmcclain> awesome
21:25:07 <beagles> I think that's all I have for highlighting at the moment
21:25:33 <markmcclain> ok.. thanks for the detailed update in the agenda
21:25:43 <markmcclain> Any nova parity questions?
21:26:19 <beagles> crickets!
21:26:23 <markmcclain> #topic Tempest
21:26:31 <markmcclain> mlavalle: hi
21:26:42 <mlavalle> hi
21:26:56 <mlavalle> I also updated the agenda
21:27:02 <markmcclain> great thank you
21:27:12 <mlavalle> folks are contributing code
21:27:33 <markmcclain> yeah it is nice to see so many reviews
21:27:35 <mlavalle> I had an exchange with Sumit regarding enabling fwaas in the gate
21:28:11 <SumitNaiksatam> mlavalle: my suggestion we hold off until after I2
21:28:13 <mlavalle> so we can running the tests under development for it
21:28:29 <markmcclain> I agree holding off until after I-2 makes sense
21:28:36 <mlavalle> Yes, the greement is to hold off until after icehouse 2
21:28:47 <SumitNaiksatam> don't want to disrupt curent efforts
21:28:55 <SumitNaiksatam> in stabilizing L3 agent
21:29:04 <mlavalle> fully in agreement with this
21:29:19 <SumitNaiksatam> mlavalle: great, thanks for brining it up
21:29:46 <mlavalle> the other thing that I want o highlight is that we already have a scenario test for vpnaas
21:29:59 <mlavalle> I would like nati_ueno to take a first look at it
21:30:05 <mlavalle> it's wip
21:30:11 <markmcclain> oh cool
21:30:29 <mlavalle> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65515
21:30:32 <nati_uen_> mlavalle: COOL!
21:30:51 <nati_uen_> mlavalle: let's me take a look
21:31:10 <mlavalle> I'm not the author. it was written by Joris Roovers
21:31:30 <mlavalle> and I'll see some of you in balmy Montreal
21:31:49 <markmcclain> yeah much better weather this week
21:31:57 <gongysh> since vpnaas fwaas is in experiment phase, should we put it into gate test?
21:32:24 <markmcclain> vpnaas yes.. fwaas let's wait until after I-2
21:32:50 <gongysh> ok
21:32:52 <mlavalle> that's all I have
21:32:58 <markmcclain> gongysh: vpn is already enabled in the gate testing
21:33:03 <salv-mobile> Aloha. Sorry for being so late.
21:33:10 <markmcclain> mlavalle: thanks for the update
21:33:40 <markmcclain> salv-mobile: no worries.. just updated everyone based on your email from earlier
21:33:45 <markmcclain> #topic API
21:33:52 <gongysh> I just think we should define what is experiment phase.
21:33:54 <markmcclain> salv-mobile: just in time.. any API updates for this week?
21:34:42 <markmcclain> gongysh: fwaas API is the only service we released marked as experimental in the Havana release notes
21:35:08 <gongysh> thanks. got it.
21:35:33 <markmcclain> not sure if salv-mobile dropped offline, but I don't think he had an API updates for this week
21:35:37 <markmcclain> #topic IPv6
21:35:40 <markmcclain> sc68cal: hi
21:35:57 <sc68cal> hello
21:36:01 <markmcclain> looks like we're no longer blocked on tail-f correct?
21:36:06 <sc68cal> Correct :)
21:36:31 <sc68cal> However, we're seeking input on how to proceed on the subnet mode keyword patch
21:36:41 <sc68cal> api extension vs. change to core
21:36:47 <sc68cal> I started a new mailing list e-mail to discuss
21:37:14 <salv-mobile> No api updates... But I will comment on sc68cal issue
21:37:36 <salv-mobile> On the mailing list
21:38:06 <markmcclain> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-January/024179.html
21:38:20 <markmcclain> ok  I'd encourage folks to chime in on that thread
21:38:25 <markmcclain> sc68cal: any other updates?
21:38:40 <sc68cal> Nope - that's it. Please do contribute to that thread
21:39:02 <markmcclain> sc68cal: thanks for the update
21:39:22 <markmcclain> #topic ML2
21:39:37 <markmcclain> rkukura, mestery: hi
21:39:55 <mestery> hi!
21:40:11 <mestery> I think we've made progress on the port binding issues which have plagued some ML2 MechanismDriver creators.
21:40:17 <mestery> rkukura is working on a patch for that now in fact.
21:40:32 <markmcclain> great
21:40:34 <mestery> That was the main topic at our meeting last week in fact. :)
21:40:43 <mestery> That's the high level update from ML2 unless rkukura has anything else.
21:40:54 <enikanorov_> what's with patches that fix migrations for ml2?
21:41:00 <enikanorov_> we have a few
21:41:24 <enikanorov_> on review, I mean
21:41:38 <mestery> enikanorov_: I think I've seen a few of those, have they not gone in yet? I'll make sure to review those today yet.
21:41:51 <rkukura> enikanorov_: I will look too
21:41:59 <enikanorov_> thanks
21:42:21 <markmcclain> enikanorov_: the problem with reviews is we're changing released migrations
21:42:28 <emagana> mestery: I remember this patch had some ML2 implications, are those fine now? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61663
21:42:49 <markmcclain> unfortunately sqlalchemy does not support some of the conditional SQL we'll need to make the migrations work in offline mode
21:42:54 <enikanorov_> markmcclain: yes, I know. I remember your conversation with Roman
21:43:15 <mestery> emagana: I'll take a peek at that one in closer detail.
21:43:24 <emagana> mestery: Thanks!
21:44:04 <markmcclain> I started working on possible fixes, but the offline fix has been a bigger challenge than I'd like
21:44:29 <markmcclain> I'll craft a post to the ML this week on various paths forward
21:44:42 <markmcclain> mestery: thanks for the ML2 update
21:44:48 <markmcclain> Any other questions?
21:45:04 <mestery> markmcclain: Sure!
21:45:21 <markmcclain> #topic VPN
21:45:44 <markmcclain> nati_uen_: looks like this has been up for review for some time
21:45:45 <markmcclain> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58897/
21:46:10 <nati_uen_> markmcclain: yes. I'm also working on review comments
21:46:16 <markmcclain> ok
21:46:22 <nati_uen_> markmcclain: I'll push new review today
21:46:34 <markmcclain> perfect any other updates from the VPN team?
21:46:41 <nati_uen_> That's it
21:46:51 <markmcclain> thanks for updating
21:46:54 <markmcclain> #topic FWaaS
21:47:01 <markmcclain> SumitNaiksatam: hi
21:47:03 <SumitNaiksatam> hi
21:47:15 <markmcclain> we've talked about activating fwaas in the gate post I-2
21:47:15 <pcm_> would be nice to get the service type frameworkfor VPN
21:47:15 <SumitNaiksatam> we have a couple of reviews
21:47:17 <markmcclain> any other items?
21:47:49 <SumitNaiksatam> would like to get the service provider reviewed in at the earliest
21:47:50 <markmcclain> one of the reviews on the agenda looks to be anbandoned
21:48:02 <SumitNaiksatam> hmmm...let me check
21:48:22 <SumitNaiksatam> but other than that, the discussion for wait until I2
21:48:29 <markmcclain> if we rebase and repush that will be reactivate it
21:48:35 <SumitNaiksatam> markmcclain: yeah
21:48:52 <markmcclain> ok.. I'll add a reminder to revisit fwaas items after I-2 is branched
21:49:01 <markmcclain> #topic LBaaS
21:49:10 <markmcclain> SumitNaiksatam: thanks for the update
21:49:17 <SumitNaiksatam> markmcclain: sure
21:49:28 <markmcclain> enikanorov_: we've been discussing resource declarations in #openstack-neutron
21:49:33 <markmcclain> any other items to raise?
21:49:38 <enikanorov_> we have a few workitems right now
21:49:55 <enikanorov_> besides loadbalancer instance those are ssl extension
21:49:58 <enikanorov_> and l7 rules
21:50:19 <enikanorov_> and also a patch which allows to use one driver with several provider names
21:50:33 <enikanorov_> to be able to specify additional settings for the same actual provider
21:51:00 <markmcclain> yeah I saw that.. that is kind of venturing into flavor territory
21:51:03 <enikanorov_> that patch is in pretty good shape in case it is a desired direction
21:51:07 <enikanorov_> right
21:51:20 <markmcclain> and might be a good general discussion because flavors make more sense long term
21:51:24 <enikanorov_> another item, a littlebit unrelated to lbaas is about configuration files
21:51:40 <enikanorov_> we've introduced services.conf a while ago
21:51:51 <markmcclain> right
21:51:55 <enikanorov_> to put vendor-specific stuff there (for adv/ services)
21:52:07 <enikanorov_> Sean Dague has objection to this practice
21:52:22 <enikanorov_> of increasing amount of files passed to a service in cmd line
21:52:41 <enikanorov_> I've started a thread on ML on the matter
21:52:58 <markmcclain> enikanorov_: agreed the more we pass the more unwieldy it gets
21:53:14 <markmcclain> thanks for starting a thread
21:53:31 <enikanorov_> appreciate if you add your opinion
21:53:48 <markmcclain> I've got a got a few thoughts, I'll chime in
21:53:52 <markmcclain> Anything else?
21:53:55 <enikanorov_> nope
21:54:02 <markmcclain> enikanorov_: thanks for updating
21:54:10 <markmcclain> #topic General Discussion
21:54:28 <markmcclain> We finished with 6 minutes to spare this week
21:54:38 <pcm_> VPNaas: would be nice to get the service type framework code reviews -  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41827/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53602/
21:55:00 <yamahata> I'm arranging a f2f meeting for advanced service vm framework in Santa Clara Jan 20
21:55:01 <nati_uen_> yeah, hopefully, we could get two core on it
21:55:03 <markmcclain> pcm_: looks like amotoki and I are the cores on it
21:55:14 <pcm_> cool
21:55:16 <amotoki> pcm_: will look at it
21:55:21 <pcm_> thnank!
21:55:22 <nati_uen_> markmcclain: amotoki: Thanks
21:55:35 <yamahata> If you want to attend, please let contact me as I announced on the ML.
21:55:45 <shivh> markmcclain: forwarded an email to u on your new addr
21:56:07 <markmcclain> shivh: thanks… I'll look at it after the meeting
21:56:14 <shivh> thx
21:56:45 <markmcclain> yamahata: 1/20 is a holiday for many US based companies
21:57:40 <yamahata> markmcclain, yes, but it's fixed due to other tight schedules. I've already got some to attend.
21:57:57 <markmcclain> ok
21:58:14 <markmcclain> Any other items for this week?
21:58:32 <dkehn> see all in Montreal
21:58:36 <nati_uen_> Do you have any wether info in montreal?
21:58:47 <nati_uen_> it looks ok (-13 c) as far as I know
21:59:00 <dkehn> 30 F for the week
21:59:25 <markmcclain> nati_uen_: I'm showing around slightly above/below freezing during the days
21:59:29 <nati_uen_> dkehn: Thanks
21:59:38 <dkehn> .\https://www.google.com/search?q=montreal+weather&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
21:59:54 <nati_uen_> markmcclain: scary
22:00:15 <Sukhdev> wow!! 40 is good - not bad..
22:00:23 <markmcclain> yeah
22:00:31 <nati_uen_> cool
22:00:32 <markmcclain> Ok we are out of time for this week
22:00:36 <marun> except…slush and freezing rain
22:00:36 <mestery> You folks have fun in the northern tundra this week. :)
22:00:42 * mestery grumbles about real cold in the meantime.
22:00:52 <markmcclain> for those traveling to Montreal safe travels and see you all there
22:01:03 <dkehn> mestery: this should be like summer for you
22:01:07 <mestery> :D
22:01:13 <markmcclain> mestery: I need to pack shorts right?
22:01:18 <markmcclain> #endmeeting