21:02:18 #startmeeting networking 21:02:18 Meeting started Mon Jun 23 21:02:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:02:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:02:21 The meeting name has been set to 'networking' 21:02:25 o/ 21:02:29 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda 21:02:49 #topic Announcements 21:03:04 The mid-cycle sprint focused on nova-network parity is coming up in 2 weeks! 21:03:05 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-juno-mid-cycle-meeting 21:03:17 Hope to see all those who signed up there and make some great progress!@ 21:04:02 #topic Bugs 21:04:17 hi 21:04:17 enikanorov: Hi! Any major bugs the team should be aware of this week? 21:04:27 i have a quick update 21:04:53 i've filed a few new bgs on lock wait timeouts/deadlocks 21:05:10 these were seen in the gate from time to time, quite rarely though 21:05:40 Thanks enikanorov! I see them in the agenda as well. 21:05:41 one of the constant producer of the gate failures related to DB is carl_baldwin's patch that separates rpc_workers into separate processes 21:05:59 another bug that i've not filed yet is some issue in loadbalancer_db 21:06:20 it seems to be hit very often in neutron jobs since 23rd of june 21:06:25 enikanorov: that patch shouldn’t be run very often. 21:06:29 enikanorov: vmware one? 21:06:57 ihrachyshka: not sure it's vmware, but 'ive not looked too closely yet 21:07:03 ihrachyshka: the patch causing ut failures has been reverted. 21:07:16 that one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1332724 21:07:17 Launchpad bug 1332724 in neutron "neutron.tests.unit.vmware.vshield.test_lbaas_plugin.TestLoadbalancerPlugin.test_create_vip_with_invalid_router often fails in gate" [High,Confirmed] 21:07:23 no, not this one 21:07:38 http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOiBcIidOb25lVHlwZScgb2JqZWN0IGhhcyBubyBhdHRyaWJ1dGUgJ2ZpeGVkX2lwcydcIiIsImZpZWxkcyI6W10sIm9mZnNldCI6MCwidGltZWZyYW1lIjoiODY0MDAiLCJncmFwaG1vZGUiOiJjb3VudCIsInRpbWUiOnsidXNlcl9pbnRlcnZhbCI6MH0sInN0YW1wIjoxNDAzNTU0NzIxNTYxfQ== 21:07:43 ihrachyshka: we’re talking about the load balancing scenario test. 21:07:45 here's the query for the new issue 21:07:58 no, that's API test actualy 21:08:18 I and enikanorov looked at it today. I have not been able to find the root cause yet (well did not really spent a lot of time investigating)... 21:08:18 anyway, that's not filed yet, so feel free to do it 21:08:48 salv-orlando: that one i'm talking about is also different, not related to scenario 21:08:57 enikanorov: so that’s yet another issue wrt the one I saw 21:09:06 salv-orlando: yes 21:09:09 ok.. please file a classifier for it, so that it shows up in elastic-recheck 21:09:14 * mestery loses track of how many separate issues we're discussing here. 21:09:25 folks: it’s 2 issue 21:09:30 salv-orlando: Thanks. :) 21:10:03 I was also just alerted by infra about an ew version of sqalalchemy (0.9.5) which is causing UT failures for neutron and nova. 21:10:05 markmcclain: ok 21:10:11 I don't have details yet, literally they just pinged me in-channel now. 21:10:12 one in API tests - one in scenario tests. I have not yet filed a e-r query for the latter as I’m hoping to find a trace which is a bit more precise than the console log message 21:10:14 So, there's that too. 21:10:24 mestery: that's interesting 21:10:35 enikanorov: Indeed. :) 21:10:49 that's it on bugs from my side 21:10:57 Thanks enikanorov! 21:11:03 Any other bugs the team should be aware of right now? 21:11:09 salv-orlando: ah cool 21:11:26 I think we should be aware of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1332724 21:11:29 Launchpad bug 1332724 in neutron "neutron.tests.unit.vmware.vshield.test_lbaas_plugin.TestLoadbalancerPlugin.test_create_vip_with_invalid_router often fails in gate" [High,Confirmed] 21:11:31 mestery: we said Thursday that we want to review the bugs preventing the full Neutron job to execute 21:11:42 mlavalle: Should we do that during the tempest section or now? 21:11:42 this is a unit test failing in gate, sporadically 21:11:57 ihrachyshka: enikanorov is assigned that issue at the moment it looks like. 21:12:04 mestery: let's do it in the tempest section 21:12:08 thnanks 21:12:10 mlavalle: OK, thanks. :) 21:12:13 I think unit tests were quite stable recently, but now they fail too, not nice 21:12:38 ihrachyshka: i have some observations about this bug, but were not able to find the root cause 21:12:43 mestery: I'm not sure whether anyone is *actively* working on it (if not, I may be of help tomorrow) 21:12:55 enikanorov: ok, let's sync on this tomorrow 21:12:55 ihrachyshka: Please sync with enikanorov on that one tomorrow if you could. 21:13:00 ihrachyshka: Ha! :) 21:13:00 ihrachyshka: sure 21:13:09 ihrachishka, mestery: we have reverted the patch causing that bug 21:13:10 OK, lets move on. 21:13:27 salv-orlando: Link by chance? 21:13:57 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101789/ 21:14:08 thanks 21:14:20 salv-orlando: thanks! 21:14:27 OK, now moving on. 21:14:30 #topic Nova Parity 21:14:31 markmcclain: Hi! 21:14:39 hi 21:14:50 I've updated with links to the specs 21:15:09 salv-orlando and I are leading the charge on reviewing the db healing ones 21:15:28 OK, cool! 21:15:34 healing is a must for us to work on adding grenade testing back 21:16:38 Thanks markmcclain. I also encourage folks to review obondarev's nova spec for hte migration API. 21:16:53 sure will do. 21:16:57 mestery: it’s on my todo list 21:16:59 mestery: ++ 21:17:07 armax salv-orlando markmcclain: Great! 21:17:11 * salv-orlando said the man who has a 5-minute memory span 21:17:24 :) 21:17:58 #topic Tempest 21:18:03 mlavalle: Hi there! 21:18:06 hi 21:18:37 I want to see if we want to review the bugs in the full neutron job 21:18:54 from those who have been working on that 21:19:08 mlavalle: Yes, but lets give some background: QA is no longer reviewing neutron tests until we get the full job running. 21:19:16 mlavalle: Thus the urgency on that front I think. 21:19:24 so why don’t I get some attention here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88289/ 21:19:31 * mestery looks 21:19:38 mestery: yeah, that's the urgency 21:19:39 the job has been deemed as rather stable - sdague’s words ;) 21:19:59 salv-orlando: I believe the failure rate was deemed too high during last weeks QA meeting, right mlavalle? 21:20:00 and I think that we better enable it and deal with the inevitable raise in failure rate 21:20:07 than wait forever 21:20:09 salv-orlando: +1 to that though 21:20:22 also, the trusty switch over this week should help, right? 21:20:32 sdague: +1 21:20:33 iirc new openvswitch was more resilient 21:20:47 sdague: It's light years ahead to be honest 21:20:49 mestery: that high failure rate might have been “tainted” by the failures we have been plagued with for that timing issue which caused images to not boot right. 21:21:05 I think we should push to get this merged then. 21:21:07 sdague: ^^^ 21:21:21 sdague: What else do you need from us here? We're ready to triage and fix issues once it merges. 21:21:30 mestery, sdague: if we get to the end of juno-2 without doing that, we’ll just end up not doing it 21:21:43 as people will be afraid of enabling a potentially gate breaking job in juno-3 21:21:44 I'm with you salv-orlando on this front. 21:21:50 mestery: I think that's about it. Why don't we wait for trusty flip, which should be in the next couple of days 21:21:53 then do it 21:22:05 sdague: Agreed. I'll touch base with you later this week. 21:22:08 salv-orlando: Sound good? 21:22:18 sdague, cool il ping you back on thurs morning 21:22:24 salv-orlando: sounds great 21:22:28 sdague: and I will raaisee the point also during the tempest meeting on Thursday 21:22:34 Excellent! 21:22:41 * mestery loves it when a plan comes together. 21:23:03 mlavalle: Anything else on the agenda for Tempest today? 21:23:34 mestery: just to report to the team we made good progress with api tests for new LBaaS last week 21:23:44 mlavalle: Awesome! 21:23:44 I should push somehting for review later this week 21:23:52 as wip 21:24:10 other than that, I will be following up with the full neutron job 21:24:17 and that's it from me this week 21:24:34 Is anyone has any idea why the full neutron job fails more than the smoke ? 21:25:42 afazekas: There are a few independent issues. some are because a few tests are not well designed, some because there are a few bugs in neutron which need to be polished. 21:26:00 nothing serious imho though. But bear in mind that the last time I did this analysis it was about 6 weeks ago. 21:26:16 bug numbers ? 21:27:02 afazekas: gimme a few minutes, in the meanwhile you guys can go on with the meeting 21:27:11 salv-orlando: Thanks! 21:27:32 #topic L3 21:27:36 carl_baldwin: Hi and welcome back! 21:27:38 mestery: hi 21:27:39 Thanks. 21:27:51 The DVR patches have seen a lot of updates. 21:28:19 One of them is nearly ready and we’ve discussed plans to get the others in to shape splitting efforts between me and Armando as the core reviewers. 21:28:48 carl_baldwin: Perfect, thanks! 21:29:02 I’m also working on having all the patches available together for testing by others in devstack. 21:29:27 afazekas: here’s the list (needs update though - some bugs might have been already fixed): http://pastebin.com/DFySpmu1 21:29:28 carl_baldwin: awesome 21:29:30 I think we could also pull together a demo soon. 21:29:31 carl_baldwin: That would be most excellent! Are the patches already linked in gerrit? 21:29:43 Yes, they are all on the same topic. 21:29:46 carl_baldwin: I’ll send a note when the demo is ready 21:29:53 carl_baldwin: Cool! 21:29:55 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/neutron-ovs-dvr,n,z 21:30:08 mestery: I am going to work on one of the patches so that it can be more digestibile 21:30:17 armax: Awesome! 21:30:24 Yeah that was one of my concerns, that one patch is like 2K lines 21:30:26 mestery: so expect a lot more traffic this week :) 21:30:27 mestery: I’ll be working on another in a similar fashion. 21:30:34 sc68cal: indeed 21:30:35 but I hate to be that guy that -1s and grumbles about big patches 21:30:46 sc68cal: I have a strategy 21:30:48 stay tuned 21:30:52 Large patches are a valid concern. 21:30:59 Sounds like this is moving forward nicely carl_baldwin! 21:31:01 sc68cal: still not the biggest patch we have in the queue 21:31:03 Other subteam projects are making progress and status is on the wiki. 21:31:28 carl_baldwin: Thanks for the updates here. Anything else to add? 21:31:32 mestery: that is all I have. See you all at the meeting on Thursday. 21:31:43 carl_baldwin: Thanks! 21:32:01 #topic Advanced Services 21:32:03 SumitNaiksatam: Hi! 21:32:13 mestery: hi 21:32:32 so, as last week we have a few specs waiting for review/approval 21:32:49 the most notable among them is the flavors spce put by enikanorov 21:33:08 SumitNaiksatam: I'm going to post an alt proposal for flavors 21:33:10 that it hit a bit of a road block last week, just as we were beginning to thin that we are getting consensus 21:33:31 SumitNaiksatam: much simpler version that is implementable during J and still cross service 21:33:53 markmcclain: any reason why the suggestions cannot be factored into the current proposal? 21:34:04 salv-orlando: which causes the most failure on the full jobs ? 21:34:28 markmcclain: my concern is that we repeatedly reset the discussion 21:34:28 afazekas salv-orlando: Can you guys pop over to #openstack-neutron since we're in the meeting here at the moment? Thanks! 21:34:30 SumitNaiksatam: I don't think the current prop is the proper direction upon further thinking 21:34:56 afazekas - they’re pasted in order of failure rate. But I don’t want to give you obsolete numbers. Let me run again checks on logstash tonight and I’ll update you tomorrow morning in openstack-qa 21:35:09 SumitNaiksatam: additionally current prop does not solve original problem of operator control 21:35:21 markmcclain: i think it does 21:35:32 salv-orlando: ok 21:35:38 let's get togather and analyse how we can converge 21:36:02 markmcclain enikanorov mestery: can i propose that we use this week’s adv services meeting to arrive at a consensus on what we plan to implement in Juno? 21:36:03 enikanorov: sure we can chat offline 21:36:17 markmcclain: right 21:36:19 if we push this any further, i dont think it will make it into Juno 21:36:31 markmcclain enikanorov: IF there is a way to retrofit this into the existing BP, it may be easiest. 21:36:36 SumitNaiksatam: -1 have conflict with that timeslot this week 21:37:29 markmcclain: when we can get your proposal? 21:37:30 markmcclain: what are your alternate suggestions? 21:38:15 hopefully this evening 21:38:24 sounds good 21:38:41 OK, lets try to resolve this sometime this week so we can move forward, flavors are important to a lot of sub-teams I believe. 21:38:52 mestery: yes 21:38:58 mestery: very true 21:39:23 mestery: other than that we have the services’ insertion and traffic steering specs which have received some decent attention 21:39:44 SumitNaiksatam: concerned about those as we have _lots_ of other work to land 21:39:56 mestery: so we would like to close on them, hopefully this week, so that these can be pursued in implementation for J2 21:40:22 markmcclain: i believe these have been scheduled for J2 21:40:49 markmcclain SumitNaiksatam: We should understand if there are issues here as well and sort that out this week with the flavors stuff if possible. 21:41:07 * mestery notes there is a seemingly endless supply of stuff to land this cycle. :) 21:41:23 mestery: sure, these have been in discussion for a long time 21:41:35 SumitNaiksatam: Yes, agreed. 21:41:49 mestery: so hopefully whoever feels strongly about these, can make it to the IRC meeting, and we can make progress 21:41:54 SumitNaiksatam: understand the length of time they've been discussed.. I just question if the team have bandwidth to land with quality 21:42:16 mestery: meh we have enough history to know our limits on what we can land in a milestone. We should use them to decide what we can reasonably target. 21:42:21 markmcclain: there are several people reviewing this 21:42:28 Otherwise we’ll end up generating frustation and disappointment 21:42:53 salv-orlando: I agree… the potential load is still really high 21:43:18 mestery: thats pretty much it from me on this, thanks for the time 21:43:19 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronJunoProjectPlan 21:43:31 There is a lot on there, agreed, we're already behind according to that plan. 21:43:37 But, lets move on. Thanks SumitNaiksatam! 21:43:46 #topic IPv6 21:43:48 sc68cal: Hi there! 21:43:51 Hello 21:44:20 So the two big items in my opinion are the spec for radvd and this small patch to complete ipv6 provider net slaac 21:44:43 sc68cal: Is there a spec for radvd yet? 21:44:45 #link https://review.openstack.org/64578 provider net slaac bug 21:44:51 mestery: yep - linking now 21:44:55 sc68cal: cool 21:44:56 #link https://review.openstack.org/101306 21:45:06 sc68cal: awesome will add to review queue 21:45:33 I believe xuhanp and shshang will be pivoting to do dhcpv6 stateful support in dnsmasq 21:45:48 will provide a link to the spec when it is published 21:46:47 If we can get some core reviewers on the provider net slaac patch we can close that bp from the j2 milestone 21:46:57 sc68cal: I'll review that one. 21:47:00 put one in the proverbial win column :) 21:47:03 that's it for me today 21:47:07 Thanks sc68cal! 21:47:14 #topic ML2 21:47:17 Sukhdev: Hi! 21:47:25 mestery: Hi 21:47:28 Anything on ML2 this week? 21:47:34 Couple of items - 21:47:56 the team has been reviewing specs - please see here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ML2_Subgroup_Reviews#Under_Review 21:48:15 Few of the patches are ready for blessing by Cores - so, will be pinging you guys 21:48:30 Sukhdev: OK, sounds good. 21:48:41 Additionally, work has been kicked off on the Modular L2 agent 21:49:08 discussion is on the ML - if one wants to participate 21:49:23 mestery: that is it for now - unless some questions 21:49:31 Thanks Sukhdev. 21:49:44 #topic Group Based Policy 21:49:48 SumitNaiksatam: Hi again! 21:49:56 mestery: hi, and thanks again 21:50:12 rkukura was able to land the mapping patches this past week 21:50:35 he will be landing some more driver patches later this week 21:50:48 Yes, and I see some good iterations on the first couple of patches as well, addressing the UT concerns marun had pointed out. 21:50:55 we already have had a good review churn on the initial model patches 21:51:07 mestery: those have all been addressed 21:51:30 thanks to the reviewers, and hopefully this is ripe now for more reviewer interest 21:51:52 the series starts here #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95900 21:52:05 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95900 21:52:05 I'll join reviewing 21:52:26 nati_ueno: thanks 21:53:03 mestery: thats it from us on GP 21:53:09 OK, thanks SumitNaiksatam! 21:53:28 I encourage people to review the fresh GBP patches as well. 21:53:36 #topic Open Discussion 21:53:48 markmcclain: We have a request for a python-neutronclient release here: 21:53:49 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/038389.html 21:53:57 markmcclain: Can we make htis happen anytime soon? Thoughts? 21:54:03 yes 21:54:16 markmcclain: cool! 21:54:20 I'll reply on that thread on the ML then. 21:54:20 I'd like cores to take a look at the blueprint https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89969/ (Enable to set DHCP port attributes) I want core's suggestion to move forward. 21:54:24 I'll work offline to show you how 21:54:37 markmcclain: Perfect, thanks! 21:55:13 oda-g: I'll have a look at that BP. 21:55:28 mestery: thanks 21:55:36 oda-g: I also have some comments to make on that BP. 21:56:18 OK, if that's it, we'll see you all on the ML and IRC! 21:56:23 And of course, back here next week. 21:56:25 #endmeeting