21:00:37 <armax> #startmeeting networking
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21:00:44 <njohnston> o/
21:00:44 <amotoki> hi
21:00:49 <HenryG> o/
21:01:03 <pc_m> hi
21:02:00 <armax> I suppose everyone is heads down testing RC1
21:02:01 <armax> is that right?
21:02:26 <njohnston> pretty much
21:02:28 <dougwig> it's monday, i'm just waiting for the fog in my head to clear.
21:02:39 <anteaya> it clears?
21:03:08 <armax> dougwig: if it’s any help I can keep the meeting short
21:03:20 <armax> I have only a couple of recommendations/announcements to make anyway
21:04:22 <armax> wow, the fog must be pretty tick
21:04:32 <armax> *thick
21:04:34 <dougwig> it is.
21:04:41 <armax> :)
21:04:44 <dougwig> :)
21:05:12 <njohnston> It's not fog, your head is just in The Cloud.
21:05:46 <johnsom> sigh
21:05:55 <armax> ok let’s dive in
21:06:56 <armax> njohnston: thanks for saving the embarassement
21:07:09 <armax> I was saying…
21:07:13 <armax> RC1 has been cut last week
21:07:51 <armax> we have roughly another week-ish to shake any outstanding bug between now and when we must call Newton done done
21:08:24 <dougwig> i'm curious if we have any limitations on merging at this point in the newton cycle?  and are we freezing project-config changes, or is the gate crush far enough past?
21:08:28 <armax> so even though Ocata master is open, we should still be careful at what we merge between now and then
21:08:48 <armax> to make sure we don’t make cherry picks to stable/newton awkward
21:08:57 <armax> dougwig: excellent question
21:09:23 <armax> so as as far as neutron and neutron-related repos are concerned
21:09:51 <armax> there’s no strict limitation in force, though as I said earlier, we should make sure we don’t go down the path of big refactoring right now
21:09:58 <anteaya> dougwig: the gate crush seems past looking at today's activity
21:09:59 <armax> at least for the next few days
21:10:06 <armax> as for project-config changes
21:10:14 <armax> I’d say, low risk changes can be looked at
21:10:15 <dougwig> ok, so no 3000 line neutron-lib mass edits, or similar that would hurt backports.
21:10:27 <armax> as for others that may affect stable branches or may have wider impact
21:10:28 <anteaya> not the time to make huge design directions in testing though, but project config cleanups are fine
21:10:39 <armax> we should probably want to exercise a higher level of scrutiny
21:10:49 <dougwig> for p-c, perhaps unfreezing things that don't affect the integrated gate?
21:11:08 <armax> dougwig: yes
21:11:25 <Sam-I-Am> hello.
21:11:29 <armax> dougwig: to give you an instance, we probably won’t make fullstack voting this week
21:11:47 <armax> even though we may want to consider this soon enough
21:12:00 <armax> so
21:12:17 <armax> going back to what we should focus right now is the following:
21:12:19 <armax> testing
21:12:20 <armax> testing
21:12:22 <armax> and testing
21:12:24 <armax> oh
21:12:25 <armax> I forgot
21:12:27 <armax> documentation
21:12:29 <armax> and testing
21:12:29 <Sam-I-Am> hey!
21:12:31 <Sam-I-Am> heh
21:12:48 <armax> and by testing I don’t mean just poke the bears
21:12:58 <armax> but added more coverage to things you’re not happy with
21:13:18 <armax> HenryG for  instance is doing that for the keystone v3 work
21:13:23 <armax> kevinbenton is doing for trunk
21:13:23 <armax> etc
21:13:45 <armax> the more test cases we add more holes will pop up that need filling
21:13:57 <armax> officially we’re gonna need an RC2
21:13:58 <armax> https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/newton-rc2
21:14:16 <armax> if you find a bug, report it, tag it newton-rc-potential and we’ll vet it for inclusion
21:14:31 <armax> please review/give priority to patches that address RC issues
21:14:40 <armax> test-only patches are ok
21:14:51 <armax> but they should be address a real issue
21:15:17 <armax> TrivialFixes at this point are only clogging the gate unless they affect rst files
21:15:20 <njohnston> Should we add newton-rc-potential for bugs in projects handled by neutron release process, like *-aas?
21:15:30 <armax> njohnston: yes
21:15:34 <njohnston> good
21:15:48 <armax> njohnston: like I did here https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624496
21:15:50 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1624496 in neutron "_create_or_update_agent used by neutron-dynamic-routing" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Armando Migliaccio (armando-migliaccio)
21:15:51 <armax> for dynamic-routing
21:16:31 <armax> another thing to keep an eye on is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360207/
21:16:33 <armax> #link v
21:16:36 <armax> #undo
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21:16:39 <armax> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360207/
21:16:50 <armax> I’ll keep it current until we release officially
21:16:58 <armax> please keep me honest
21:17:33 <armax> please go over
21:17:34 <armax> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=doc
21:17:43 <armax> and see if there’s anything you can contribute to plug a documentation hole
21:18:05 <armax> and make yourself familiar with
21:18:08 <armax> #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/release-checklist.html
21:18:29 <armax> to see what tasks are involved during this time of the year
21:19:05 <amotoki> re document, some of networking-guide bugs might be related too.
21:19:09 <amotoki> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=networking-guide
21:19:24 <Sam-I-Am> there's plenty of holes in the networking guide
21:19:45 <Sam-I-Am> i'm *still* trying to get the scenario rearchitecture done. turns out teaching and words are hard. :/
21:21:14 <armax> Sam-I-Am: is there anything specific we can do to help?
21:21:40 <Sam-I-Am> for the rearch, reviewing the complete content would be nice (its a large wip now)
21:21:55 <Sam-I-Am> for example, getting someone familiar with l3ha to validate the l3ha content
21:21:58 <Sam-I-Am> same with dvr
21:22:14 <Sam-I-Am> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367691/
21:23:16 <armax> ok, I’ll get amuller on this
21:23:38 <armax> sc68cal: are you on it for the rebase?
21:24:05 <Sam-I-Am> sean is helping a bit with content review
21:24:13 <Sam-I-Am> i'll need to rebase it due to some minor patches that merged
21:24:20 <armax> Sam-I-Am: sorry I misread the patch
21:24:25 <armax> Sam-I-Am: ack
21:24:27 <sc68cal> ++
21:25:13 <armax> I added amuller and carl_baldwin on that patch, hopefully they’ll turn around
21:25:22 <Sam-I-Am> cool, thats helpful
21:25:22 <carl_baldwin> armax: ack
21:25:37 * carl_baldwin will look
21:25:41 <armax> Sam-I-Am: is there a specific cut off date by which doc changes are no longer accepted for Newton?
21:25:49 <armax> Sam-I-Am: I guess it’s the same for other projects
21:25:52 <armax> right?
21:26:14 <Sam-I-Am> usually we dont cut stable/newton until a couple weeks after release so bug fixes dont have to be backported
21:26:21 <armax> ok
21:26:25 <Sam-I-Am> so probably a week before barcelona we'll cut
21:26:30 <armax> nice
21:26:46 <armax> ok, we’ll do our best to add/revise as much content as we can
21:27:36 <Sam-I-Am> cool. i really like all the other contributions lately too.
21:27:37 <haleyb> Sam-I-Am: i will look as well, sorry, just got here
21:27:41 <Sam-I-Am> nice to see docs with features
21:27:45 <Sam-I-Am> and i dont have to prod :)
21:27:58 <Sam-I-Am> haleyb: all the new scenarios include v6 by default
21:28:06 <Sam-I-Am> none of this second class citizen stuff anymore
21:28:09 <haleyb> :-)
21:29:24 <armax> ok, is there any question so far?
21:32:07 <armax> ok
21:32:19 <armax> looks like you guys have this under control
21:33:00 <dougwig> folks, even.
21:33:41 <Sam-I-Am> "control"
21:33:46 <Sam-I-Am> its relative
21:34:21 <armax> ok if there’s nothing else, it looks like we’re covered for this week
21:34:25 <armax> our focus should be RC2
21:34:33 <armax> we have a few bugs to squash
21:34:41 <armax> and patches to push through
21:35:16 <armax> if there’s nothing else let’s get some of the time back to do just that!
21:36:29 <amotoki> one thing
21:37:00 <amotoki> do we need to encourage neutron stadium project wiht release independent to release neutron releases?
21:37:02 <armax> amotoki: go ahead
21:37:14 <amotoki> like octavia, l2gw, sfc and so on.
21:37:25 <armax> amotoki: it looks like you just did :)
21:37:47 <dougwig> if they need encouragement, shouldn't they be on a different release cycle, then?
21:38:07 <amotoki> according to the schedule https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html
21:38:24 <amotoki> Oct 17-21 R+2 is the suggested deadline.
21:38:40 <amotoki> See "Newton cycle-trailing Deadline"
21:38:45 <armax> amotoki: I’ll send an email reminder
21:38:59 <amotoki> thanks
21:39:12 <armax> amotoki: thank you
21:40:00 <armax> ok
21:40:09 <armax> thanks for your undevoted attention folks
21:40:24 <armax> we’ll continue our chat on our usual media
21:40:26 <armax> #endmeeting