21:00:37 <armax> #startmeeting networking 21:00:38 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Sep 19 21:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:39 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00:42 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'networking' 21:00:44 <njohnston> o/ 21:00:44 <amotoki> hi 21:00:49 <HenryG> o/ 21:01:03 <pc_m> hi 21:02:00 <armax> I suppose everyone is heads down testing RC1 21:02:01 <armax> is that right? 21:02:26 <njohnston> pretty much 21:02:28 <dougwig> it's monday, i'm just waiting for the fog in my head to clear. 21:02:39 <anteaya> it clears? 21:03:08 <armax> dougwig: if it’s any help I can keep the meeting short 21:03:20 <armax> I have only a couple of recommendations/announcements to make anyway 21:04:22 <armax> wow, the fog must be pretty tick 21:04:32 <armax> *thick 21:04:34 <dougwig> it is. 21:04:41 <armax> :) 21:04:44 <dougwig> :) 21:05:12 <njohnston> It's not fog, your head is just in The Cloud. 21:05:46 <johnsom> sigh 21:05:55 <armax> ok let’s dive in 21:06:56 <armax> njohnston: thanks for saving the embarassement 21:07:09 <armax> I was saying… 21:07:13 <armax> RC1 has been cut last week 21:07:51 <armax> we have roughly another week-ish to shake any outstanding bug between now and when we must call Newton done done 21:08:24 <dougwig> i'm curious if we have any limitations on merging at this point in the newton cycle? and are we freezing project-config changes, or is the gate crush far enough past? 21:08:28 <armax> so even though Ocata master is open, we should still be careful at what we merge between now and then 21:08:48 <armax> to make sure we don’t make cherry picks to stable/newton awkward 21:08:57 <armax> dougwig: excellent question 21:09:23 <armax> so as as far as neutron and neutron-related repos are concerned 21:09:51 <armax> there’s no strict limitation in force, though as I said earlier, we should make sure we don’t go down the path of big refactoring right now 21:09:58 <anteaya> dougwig: the gate crush seems past looking at today's activity 21:09:59 <armax> at least for the next few days 21:10:06 <armax> as for project-config changes 21:10:14 <armax> I’d say, low risk changes can be looked at 21:10:15 <dougwig> ok, so no 3000 line neutron-lib mass edits, or similar that would hurt backports. 21:10:27 <armax> as for others that may affect stable branches or may have wider impact 21:10:28 <anteaya> not the time to make huge design directions in testing though, but project config cleanups are fine 21:10:39 <armax> we should probably want to exercise a higher level of scrutiny 21:10:49 <dougwig> for p-c, perhaps unfreezing things that don't affect the integrated gate? 21:11:08 <armax> dougwig: yes 21:11:25 <Sam-I-Am> hello. 21:11:29 <armax> dougwig: to give you an instance, we probably won’t make fullstack voting this week 21:11:47 <armax> even though we may want to consider this soon enough 21:12:00 <armax> so 21:12:17 <armax> going back to what we should focus right now is the following: 21:12:19 <armax> testing 21:12:20 <armax> testing 21:12:22 <armax> and testing 21:12:24 <armax> oh 21:12:25 <armax> I forgot 21:12:27 <armax> documentation 21:12:29 <armax> and testing 21:12:29 <Sam-I-Am> hey! 21:12:31 <Sam-I-Am> heh 21:12:48 <armax> and by testing I don’t mean just poke the bears 21:12:58 <armax> but added more coverage to things you’re not happy with 21:13:18 <armax> HenryG for instance is doing that for the keystone v3 work 21:13:23 <armax> kevinbenton is doing for trunk 21:13:23 <armax> etc 21:13:45 <armax> the more test cases we add more holes will pop up that need filling 21:13:57 <armax> officially we’re gonna need an RC2 21:13:58 <armax> https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/newton-rc2 21:14:16 <armax> if you find a bug, report it, tag it newton-rc-potential and we’ll vet it for inclusion 21:14:31 <armax> please review/give priority to patches that address RC issues 21:14:40 <armax> test-only patches are ok 21:14:51 <armax> but they should be address a real issue 21:15:17 <armax> TrivialFixes at this point are only clogging the gate unless they affect rst files 21:15:20 <njohnston> Should we add newton-rc-potential for bugs in projects handled by neutron release process, like *-aas? 21:15:30 <armax> njohnston: yes 21:15:34 <njohnston> good 21:15:48 <armax> njohnston: like I did here https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624496 21:15:50 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1624496 in neutron "_create_or_update_agent used by neutron-dynamic-routing" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Armando Migliaccio (armando-migliaccio) 21:15:51 <armax> for dynamic-routing 21:16:31 <armax> another thing to keep an eye on is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360207/ 21:16:33 <armax> #link v 21:16:36 <armax> #undo 21:16:37 <openstack> Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x7f23bd8ad650> 21:16:39 <armax> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360207/ 21:16:50 <armax> I’ll keep it current until we release officially 21:16:58 <armax> please keep me honest 21:17:33 <armax> please go over 21:17:34 <armax> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=doc 21:17:43 <armax> and see if there’s anything you can contribute to plug a documentation hole 21:18:05 <armax> and make yourself familiar with 21:18:08 <armax> #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/release-checklist.html 21:18:29 <armax> to see what tasks are involved during this time of the year 21:19:05 <amotoki> re document, some of networking-guide bugs might be related too. 21:19:09 <amotoki> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=networking-guide 21:19:24 <Sam-I-Am> there's plenty of holes in the networking guide 21:19:45 <Sam-I-Am> i'm *still* trying to get the scenario rearchitecture done. turns out teaching and words are hard. :/ 21:21:14 <armax> Sam-I-Am: is there anything specific we can do to help? 21:21:40 <Sam-I-Am> for the rearch, reviewing the complete content would be nice (its a large wip now) 21:21:55 <Sam-I-Am> for example, getting someone familiar with l3ha to validate the l3ha content 21:21:58 <Sam-I-Am> same with dvr 21:22:14 <Sam-I-Am> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367691/ 21:23:16 <armax> ok, I’ll get amuller on this 21:23:38 <armax> sc68cal: are you on it for the rebase? 21:24:05 <Sam-I-Am> sean is helping a bit with content review 21:24:13 <Sam-I-Am> i'll need to rebase it due to some minor patches that merged 21:24:20 <armax> Sam-I-Am: sorry I misread the patch 21:24:25 <armax> Sam-I-Am: ack 21:24:27 <sc68cal> ++ 21:25:13 <armax> I added amuller and carl_baldwin on that patch, hopefully they’ll turn around 21:25:22 <Sam-I-Am> cool, thats helpful 21:25:22 <carl_baldwin> armax: ack 21:25:37 * carl_baldwin will look 21:25:41 <armax> Sam-I-Am: is there a specific cut off date by which doc changes are no longer accepted for Newton? 21:25:49 <armax> Sam-I-Am: I guess it’s the same for other projects 21:25:52 <armax> right? 21:26:14 <Sam-I-Am> usually we dont cut stable/newton until a couple weeks after release so bug fixes dont have to be backported 21:26:21 <armax> ok 21:26:25 <Sam-I-Am> so probably a week before barcelona we'll cut 21:26:30 <armax> nice 21:26:46 <armax> ok, we’ll do our best to add/revise as much content as we can 21:27:36 <Sam-I-Am> cool. i really like all the other contributions lately too. 21:27:37 <haleyb> Sam-I-Am: i will look as well, sorry, just got here 21:27:41 <Sam-I-Am> nice to see docs with features 21:27:45 <Sam-I-Am> and i dont have to prod :) 21:27:58 <Sam-I-Am> haleyb: all the new scenarios include v6 by default 21:28:06 <Sam-I-Am> none of this second class citizen stuff anymore 21:28:09 <haleyb> :-) 21:29:24 <armax> ok, is there any question so far? 21:32:07 <armax> ok 21:32:19 <armax> looks like you guys have this under control 21:33:00 <dougwig> folks, even. 21:33:41 <Sam-I-Am> "control" 21:33:46 <Sam-I-Am> its relative 21:34:21 <armax> ok if there’s nothing else, it looks like we’re covered for this week 21:34:25 <armax> our focus should be RC2 21:34:33 <armax> we have a few bugs to squash 21:34:41 <armax> and patches to push through 21:35:16 <armax> if there’s nothing else let’s get some of the time back to do just that! 21:36:29 <amotoki> one thing 21:37:00 <amotoki> do we need to encourage neutron stadium project wiht release independent to release neutron releases? 21:37:02 <armax> amotoki: go ahead 21:37:14 <amotoki> like octavia, l2gw, sfc and so on. 21:37:25 <armax> amotoki: it looks like you just did :) 21:37:47 <dougwig> if they need encouragement, shouldn't they be on a different release cycle, then? 21:38:07 <amotoki> according to the schedule https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html 21:38:24 <amotoki> Oct 17-21 R+2 is the suggested deadline. 21:38:40 <amotoki> See "Newton cycle-trailing Deadline" 21:38:45 <armax> amotoki: I’ll send an email reminder 21:38:59 <amotoki> thanks 21:39:12 <armax> amotoki: thank you 21:40:00 <armax> ok 21:40:09 <armax> thanks for your undevoted attention folks 21:40:24 <armax> we’ll continue our chat on our usual media 21:40:26 <armax> #endmeeting