14:00:29 <ihrachys> #startmeeting networking
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14:00:34 <johnsom> o/
14:00:37 <electrocucaracha> o/
14:00:38 <ihrachys> howdy
14:00:48 <pc_m> o/
14:00:49 <alraddarla_> hello :)
14:00:49 <haleyb> hola
14:00:52 <hoangcx> hi
14:00:53 <mlavalle> o/
14:00:54 <jlibosva> o/
14:00:54 <andreas_s> hi
14:00:55 <sbelous_> hello
14:00:55 <dasanind_> o/
14:00:57 <njohnston> o/
14:00:57 <amotoki_> o/
14:00:59 <ralonsoh> hi
14:01:26 <hichihara> o/
14:01:26 <ihrachys> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda
14:01:45 * ihrachys notes the agenda is not really in shape for the meeting, so he will improvise a bit
14:01:50 <ihrachys> #topic Announcements
14:02:25 <ihrachys> first, in case someone lives deep under a rock, I remind that armax is our PTL for Ocata
14:02:56 <rossella_s> hi
14:02:56 <ihrachys> summit planning has already started
14:03:14 <Sam-I-Am> moo.
14:03:23 <ihrachys> I don't believe we had a discussion for neutron related setup for the summit yet, I bet armax will update us in next weeks.
14:03:36 <ihrachys> but for cross project sessions, we are already collecting topics
14:03:40 <ihrachys> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-cross-project-sessions
14:03:58 <ihrachys> make sure you walk thru the list and propose ideas for cross project sessions
14:04:11 <ihrachys> I believe it's ~one week until the list is closed, so don't drag
14:04:29 <lilintan> o/
14:04:56 <ihrachys> as you noticed, master is open for Ocata for some time, and we land Ocata only patches already.
14:05:05 <ihrachys> we still have *not* released Newton final
14:05:13 <ihrachys> so far we released RC1 only
14:05:26 <ihrachys> and we are looking to release RC2 in next day or two
14:05:38 <ihrachys> after that, there is quiet period till Oct 6: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104373.html
14:05:55 <ihrachys> on that day, the last RC we release will be considered final and will officially ship to consumers
14:06:55 <ihrachys> since Ocata cycle is open, I wanted to share with folks that I want to step down from being a release liaison for Ocata
14:07:12 <ihrachys> people who feel like taking over the torch are highly welcome to step up
14:07:13 <ajo> late o/
14:07:55 <amotoki_> ihrachys: thanks you very much as release liaison so far
14:07:59 <ihrachys> if you don't step up, you effectively make your PTL a release liaison, and he will be sad about it
14:08:00 <njohnston> ihrachys: thanks for all your hard work as release liaison!
14:08:13 <ihrachys> don't make your ptl sad
14:08:18 <ihrachys> thanks folks, I appreciate
14:08:58 <ihrachys> talk to me or armax if you feel you can help with the role
14:09:23 <amotoki_> ihrachys: if you can provide more information about the role of release liaison, it will be helpful for folks who are thinking to serve as release liaison.
14:09:42 <ajo> thank you ihrachys!
14:09:58 <hichihara> amotoki_: ++
14:10:13 <ihrachys> I think for the most part it's covered in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Release_management
14:10:15 <dasanind_> amotoki_: ++
14:10:20 <electrocucaracha> amotoki_: ++
14:10:21 <ihrachys> and http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html
14:10:30 <ihrachys> there is more info to that, but that should give the idea
14:10:34 <lilintan> amotoki_:++
14:10:53 <amotoki_> ihrachys: thanks. that would be enough for most cases.
14:10:57 <ihrachys> basically, it's about creating release requests for the whole stadium, plus helping armax to track release critical fixes
14:11:48 <ihrachys> while at it, I want to mention that I hold the oslo liaison role for several cycles already, and would be happy if someone takes that one over too, if anything, for the sake of rotation in the team.
14:12:23 <ihrachys> that one involves in tracking 'oslo' tag in launchpad, plus attending a single oslo meeting per week :)
14:12:25 <ihrachys> again, talk to me for details
14:12:27 <Sam-I-Am> do you want to be the docs liaison too? :)
14:12:34 <johnsom> ihrachys with the chances in the stadium, how many projects do you track for release?
14:13:04 <ihrachys> Sam-I-Am: even with those off my shoulders, I still have stable liaison thing!
14:13:14 <Sam-I-Am> docs is moar fun!
14:13:31 <ihrachys> johnsom: everything under https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml#L2810
14:13:45 <ihrachys> though it doesn't take too much time now because the process is more streamlined lately
14:13:57 <johnsom> Still quite a number then.
14:14:25 <johnsom> Yes, the release team has done a great job at making it a smooth process
14:14:29 <ihrachys> johnsom: yeah. I believe the list may shrink though. I hope it does. :)
14:14:51 <johnsom> I know one that will be coming off the list...  Grin
14:15:09 <ihrachys> I hope more will :) some for better some for worse
14:15:11 <ihrachys> anyhoo
14:15:33 <ihrachys> let's walk thru Newton release matters for a sec
14:15:35 <ihrachys> #topic Closing Newton release
14:15:58 <ihrachys> the RC2 request is up but it will need a respin after I clarify with armax the final bits to include into it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376998/
14:16:23 <ihrachys> fyi the dashboard to track the final bits is the same as before, https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/newton-rc2
14:17:10 <ihrachys> note that as per email from Armando you must not target any new bugs for the milestone without talking to him (or me): http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104547.html
14:17:34 <ihrachys> if you feel like, just tag a critical bug with newton-rc-potential (and still talk to us)
14:18:01 <ihrachys> reminder: postmortem is still up for comments, fill your PTL in with latest state if not already: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360207/
14:18:30 <ihrachys> before we cut off RC2 that will probably be final, walk thru release notes for the release:
14:18:35 <ihrachys> #link http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/neutron/newton.html
14:18:35 <ihrachys> #link http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/neutron-dynamic-routing/newton.html
14:18:35 <ihrachys> #link http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/neutron-fwaas/newton.html
14:18:35 <ihrachys> #link http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/neutron-lbaas/newton.html
14:18:35 <ihrachys> #link http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/neutron-vpnaas/newton.html
14:18:55 <ihrachys> if you see an issue there, you still have time to propose a fix today. don't loose the chance.
14:19:44 <ihrachys> btw njohnston, I haven't seen octavia release notes at https://releases.openstack.org/newton/ is it expected? is it because the project is release:independent?
14:20:24 <njohnston> I will check that out!
14:20:33 <ihrachys> ok
14:20:45 <amotoki_> njohnston: neutron-lbaas-dashboard too
14:20:54 <ihrachys> the release brings me to the next topic which is…
14:20:57 <ihrachys> #topic Docs
14:21:05 <ihrachys> we have quite some doc bugs opened
14:21:05 <ihrachys> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=doc Doc bugs
14:21:22 <ihrachys> ideally we would not have the list that huge at this point into release
14:21:37 <ihrachys> please take a bug or two from the list and help with closing them
14:21:46 <ihrachys> we want our docs in shape before the release amirite?
14:22:15 <ihrachys> Sam-I-Am: since you are here, do you have any specific updates from the docs team?
14:22:36 <Sam-I-Am> ihrachys: not too much
14:22:43 <Sam-I-Am> i'm still working on updating all the deployment scenarios
14:22:47 <Sam-I-Am> its a lot of work, but moving along.
14:23:00 <amotoki_> regarding docs, I send LBaaS v1 drop patch to the networking guide https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377229/
14:23:03 <Sam-I-Am> i hope to get it merged in time for when the docs cut newton, plus a backport to mitaka
14:23:11 <Sam-I-Am> its also nice to see all the contributions from neutron folks
14:23:24 <amotoki_> I would like to know how we can do database data migration from v1 to v2.
14:23:49 <Sam-I-Am> also, please tag me in any docs patches so i can help move them along
14:23:53 <johnsom> There is a script in the tools directory that can assist with v1 to v2 DB migrations
14:23:56 <ihrachys> amotoki_: I think there was a conversion script, though not really tested.
14:24:03 <johnsom> +1
14:24:22 <ihrachys> at this point I don't believe it would belong to official docs
14:24:31 <amotoki_> johnsom: yeah, I see the script in neutron-lbaas repo, but I wonder how operators can use it.
14:24:41 <alraddarla_> regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376976/ : I was asked to use project_id instead of tenant_id, but this would not be consistent with the rest of the documentation. Any insight?
14:24:54 <ihrachys> Sam-I-Am: you could just track the link with all 'doc' tagged bugs for neutron to keep an eye on our backlog. wouldn't it work?
14:25:32 <amotoki_> alraddarla_: sorry for late review on API reference. I will look at it soon.
14:25:41 <Sam-I-Am> ihrachys: i could do that, assuming they're all tagged :)
14:26:02 <amotoki_> alraddarla_: at the moment, we use tenant_id now and would like to add project_id in a followup patch.
14:26:03 <ihrachys> alraddarla_: I don't think the suggestion is correct: metering extension does NOT provide the project_id attribute, project_id extension does. The base metering extension supports just tenant_id
14:26:26 <ihrachys> Sam-I-Am: I think they are, at least those created by the virtue of DocImpact
14:27:25 <alraddarla_> amotoki_  ihrachys : thank you! Just needs reviewed I believe then
14:27:34 <ihrachys> Sam-I-Am: even if not all of them are, the list itself is quite long to keep us busy for some time :)
14:28:00 <ihrachys> #topic Gate status
14:28:13 <ihrachys> just wanted folks to be aware of the state of the gate
14:28:16 <ihrachys> #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate Grafana
14:28:29 <ihrachys> one board that stands out is the one for unit tests in gate queue
14:28:35 <ihrachys> #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=3&fullscreen Unit tests gate trend
14:29:02 <ihrachys> it shows that our unit tests are ~25% failing rate in gate (?)
14:29:22 <HenryG> Yeah that should be 0
14:29:23 <ihrachys> but I suspect it's the infra issue of a breakage of zuul-cloner
14:29:34 <ihrachys> we had one yesterday I believe
14:29:48 <ihrachys> so I hope it will get back to normal after a while
14:31:11 <ihrachys> though the last time I reloaded it, I saw the raising trend which made me feel uneasy. if that would be a solved issue, wouldn't it go down?
14:31:24 <ihrachys> (for some reason, it does not reload for me quick enough right now)
14:31:44 <HenryG> Too many people looking
14:31:59 <ihrachys> oh it actually started to go down
14:32:30 <haleyb> it was 70% last night
14:32:36 <ihrachys> ok then we are good :)
14:32:44 <ihrachys> other dashboards are more or less in shape
14:33:06 <ihrachys> note we track gate failures in launchpad
14:33:08 <ihrachys> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Known gate bugs
14:33:27 <ihrachys> if your patch failed in gate, please DON'T recheck blindly
14:33:57 <ihrachys> instead, look thru the logs, then the bug tracker and report a new bug with gate-failure tag if there is no existing bug for the failure you see
14:34:05 <ihrachys> (and help driving it to a fix)
14:34:25 <ihrachys> every time you recheck with no bug, a kitten dies somewhere
14:34:40 <ihrachys> #topic Planning for Ocata
14:35:10 <ihrachys> as I said before, there are still no specific directions from armax on summit planning
14:35:19 <ihrachys> anyhow, neutron-drivers revived their meetings and will slowly process the backlog of RFEs
14:35:24 <ajo> recheck with no bugs should be negative karma in stackalytics....
14:35:39 <ihrachys> also, if you own a spec, please repropose it for ocata (there is a directory for that in the tree)
14:35:47 <ihrachys> ajo: haha, good idea
14:35:59 <ajo> :-)
14:36:39 <mlavalle> well the dying of kittens is bad enough
14:37:07 <ihrachys> I see quite some blueprint specific topics in the agenda wiki page like for neutron-lib or OSC. I am not sure those should survive now that we are in Ocata mode. I will leave it up to armax to reformat the page for the new times.
14:37:47 <ihrachys> I will take the liberty and skip those. if anything, blame me.
14:37:51 <ihrachys> #topic On Demand Agenda
14:38:02 <ihrachys> there are no new topics in the list on wiki for what I see
14:38:21 <ihrachys> so unless someone raises a topic of interest to majority of the team now, I will call it a day.
14:38:33 <ihrachys> and return you back your precious 20+ mins of life
14:39:29 <ihrachys> oki-doki, the silence says it all. go get some coffee or whiskey depending on your timezone.
14:39:38 <ihrachys> ciao
14:39:39 <ihrachys> #endmeeting