21:00:28 <armax> #startmeeting networking 21:00:29 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Nov 14 21:00:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:31 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00:34 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'networking' 21:00:36 <njohnston> o/ 21:00:39 <mlavalle> o/ 21:00:41 <lindycoder> o/ 21:00:44 <HenryG> o/ 21:00:44 <amuller> o/ 21:00:44 <kevinbenton> hi 21:00:47 <electrocucaracha> o/ 21:00:47 <armax> hello everyone 21:00:48 <hichihara> hi 21:01:29 <armax> let’s dive in 21:01:36 <armax> #topic Announcements 21:01:54 <dougwig> o/ 21:01:56 <armax> Liberty is about to be EOL 21:02:05 <Swami> hi 21:02:21 <armax> this means a few things 21:03:14 <armax> a) infra changes will take place in order to drop support to the branch 21:03:46 <armax> b) mitaka becomes the next one to be targeted for EOL 21:04:07 <armax> the EOL date for mitaka is set to be 2017-04-10 21:04:14 <HenryG> c) https://review.openstack.org/393973 can merge 21:04:42 <armax> HenryG: aye 21:05:22 <armax> when reviewing stable patches or triaging bug reports 21:05:34 <armax> please take into account of the fact that mitaka is security fixes only 21:05:53 <armax> next announcement 21:06:04 <armax> Ocata-1 is nearly upon us 21:06:16 <armax> dasm will cut the release sometime this week 21:06:23 <dasm> aye 21:07:12 <armax> we’ve been always pretty lax about what hash we pick for the first milestone 21:08:01 <armax> of the neutron projects that follow the release:cycle-with-milestones 21:09:37 <armax> however, if there’s stadium related work that you’d like to see included in the milestone of the project of your choice, bear in mind that you have just a few days left 21:10:29 <armax> by the end of the week, I’ll go back to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389397/ and reassess where we are once again 21:12:16 <armax> one thing to take into account when dealing with testing and CI of neutron stadium projects, is the adoption of xenial 21:12:48 <armax> since newton, xenial is used as default ubuntu node 21:13:10 <armax> the neutron team has been looking at this and you can find more details in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107151.html 21:13:29 <armax> we already switched over pretty much everywhere except fullstack, functional and rally 21:13:39 <njohnston> The infra folks have been very good enforcing xenial while riding herd on the gush of neutron stadium project-config patches. 21:14:08 <armax> njohnston: nice 21:14:27 <armax> that said, if you end up spotting a gap where you’re still using trusty when you should not 21:14:41 <armax> make sure you plug the hole to avoid surprises down the road 21:16:19 * armax makes a note to switch gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-neutron-lib to xenial 21:17:19 <armax> anyone else has anything to announce? 21:17:22 <armax> remind us? 21:18:18 <armax> ok, looks like you’re all shy 21:18:23 <armax> or have nothing to share 21:18:25 <armax> moving on 21:18:31 <armax> #topic blueprints 21:19:09 <armax> anyone has anything to share on OVO/no API downtime? 21:19:42 <armax> anything that’s blocked/needs review help/bike shedding/ you name it? 21:19:59 <kevinbenton> i'm going to need some eyes on a few changes 21:20:19 <kevinbenton> impacting both engine facade and push notifications 21:20:25 <armax> you got the stage 21:20:36 <kevinbenton> getting rid of the last of those GUARD_TRANSACTION flags 21:20:41 <armax> kevinbenton: patch #s? 21:20:53 <kevinbenton> armax: one sec 21:21:19 <kevinbenton> the patches in this dependency chain 21:21:20 <kevinbenton> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396015/ 21:21:28 <armax> kevinbenton: ack 21:21:28 <kevinbenton> i will clean them up today 21:21:58 <kevinbenton> but basically each place where we use GUARD_TRANSACTION means we emit AFTER events still inside of a transaction 21:22:00 <armax> kevinbenton: is this link better? 21:22:03 <armax> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1540844 21:22:21 <armax> or rather 21:22:23 <armax> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1540844+status:open 21:22:39 <kevinbenton> yeah, that's good. i think it's missing one but i'll update the topic for it 21:22:44 <armax> aye 21:22:48 <armax> btw, needless to say 21:23:22 <electrocucaracha> from the ovo implementation perspective, the patch for router, router route and floating ip (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307964/) it's blocking another patches, more eyes on that are welcoming 21:23:30 <armax> it’s the responsibility or core reviewers to help review all the effort with high priority for Ocata 21:23:48 <armax> *of 21:24:52 <armax> if you are a core reviewer and you are struggling to keep up with your review duties this cycle 21:25:01 <armax> please come and talk to me 21:25:38 <armax> I have noticed that many reviewers have been dropped dramatically 21:26:09 <dougwig> guilty. i'll start putting some time blocks into my calendar, so they don't get eaten up. 21:26:26 <armax> dougwig: thanks 21:26:55 <armax> ok, if no-one has anything to add to this section of the meeting, let’s move on 21:27:00 <armax> #topic Bugs and gate failures 21:27:52 <armax> andreas shared this ealier today: 21:27:54 <armax> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107232.html 21:28:45 <armax> if you have a few minutes to spare, please check if you can help squash some of the bugs highlighted 21:29:23 <armax> fwiw I’d like to raise awareness on bug 1629133 21:29:23 <openstack> bug 1629133 in Magnum "New neutron subnet pool support breaks multinode testing." [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629133 - Assigned to Spyros Trigazis (strigazi) 21:29:38 <armax> this bug has quite a long story 21:30:05 <armax> and the recent change to neutron as default in devstack-gate has caused some havoc as mordred pointed out 21:30:28 <armax> IMO, this is all due to a botched up patch to support subnetpools for the trove project 21:30:57 <kevinbenton> is that something we can revert or skip temporarily while it's worked out? 21:31:13 * mordred wants to be helpful in whatever way possible 21:31:24 <armax> kevinbenton: I provided some suggestions here: 21:31:26 <armax> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381965/ 21:32:02 <armax> if anyone is willing to clean this up in devstack, it’s much appreciated it 21:33:11 <armax> mordred: I’d love to get this past us, but I am yet to be convinced there’s anything that we can do in neutron proper 21:33:23 <mordred> I am willing to do some devstack hacking, but usually fear I lack enough context on the neutron side ot be able to make good decision 21:33:45 <kevinbenton> is the devstack change invasive? 21:33:59 <armax> kevinbenton: the devstack change fiddles with the routing table of the host 21:34:04 <armax> and the host loses connectivity 21:35:12 <armax> anyhow 21:35:19 <kevinbenton> well i can look into it this afternoon if nobody else is on it and can ping mordred for devstack help :) 21:35:28 <armax> kevinbenton: thanks 21:35:33 <mordred> kevinbenton: woot! I'm super happy to help and/or hit things iwth sticks 21:35:38 <armax> we have electrocucaracha as deputy for the week 21:35:43 <mordred> kevinbenton, armax: thankyou 21:35:51 <armax> mordred: sure thing 21:36:17 <armax> is there anyone willing to volunteer for the week of 21st? 21:36:43 <armax> being the week of thanksgiving, perhaps it’s not gonna be superbusy? 21:36:59 <armax> who wants to lose the opportunity for a lightweight deputy week? 21:37:04 <kevinbenton> i can do it :) 21:37:22 <armax> kevinbenton: you sure? 21:37:30 <armax> you’re not stretched thin are you? 21:37:41 <kevinbenton> that's why i picked the easy week :) 21:37:47 <armax> kevinbenton: fair enough 21:37:56 <armax> #action kevinbenton deputy for the week of Nov 21st 21:38:22 <armax> ok 21:38:24 <armax> moving on 21:38:28 <armax> #topic Docs 21:38:38 <armax> anything anyone is willing to share here? 21:39:14 <armax> we still have a few docs patches in flight that are needed to document features for newton, both in openstack-manual and neutron-lib/api-ref 21:39:45 <armax> It’d strongly encourage people to review 21:39:47 <armax> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=doc 21:40:30 <armax> next topic 21:40:36 <armax> # transition to OSC 21:41:03 <armax> any devstack reviewer with superpowers listening here? 21:41:21 <armax> there’s a patch in devstack that helps switch to openstack CLI for all networking related bugs 21:41:26 <armax> s/bugs/commands 21:41:30 <armax> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391188/ 21:41:47 <armax> sc68cal: ^ 21:42:22 <armax> I’ll look at grenade next 21:43:01 <armax> reedip: if you can unblock https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393011/, that would be great 21:43:44 <armax> bear in mind that OSC extensions for high level services will need to be well undergoing by now 21:44:31 <armax> dynamic-routing, fwaas, sfc, bgpvpn etc they all have to be close to getting these completed and functional 21:45:12 <armax> anything anyone wants to add? 21:45:29 <armax> #topic neutron-lib 21:45:48 <HenryG> hi 21:45:54 <armax> HenryG: anything worth sharing? 21:46:07 <HenryG> There are many patches in flight 21:46:16 <HenryG> Please review :) 21:46:17 <armax> HenryG: narrow down, please? 21:46:26 <mlavalle> HenryG: any priorities? 21:46:56 <HenryG> I have not prepared a list, I can send an email 21:47:08 <mlavalle> HenryG: ++ 21:47:33 <HenryG> Some decision needs to be made on the workflow 21:47:42 <armax> I have a patch in the works to adopt some of the latest additions to neutron-lib 21:47:43 <armax> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386845/ 21:48:07 <armax> I am still battling with test insanity, but I am seeing the light at the end of the tunnel 21:48:20 <armax> HenryG: fire away 21:48:34 <HenryG> Workflow: https://review.openstack.org/331338 21:49:11 <armax> so shall I assume that your call for decision translated into ‘please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331338/'? 21:50:00 <HenryG> yes, it will help avoid procedural questions in code reviews 21:50:10 <njohnston> +1 21:50:21 <armax> ok 21:50:33 <armax> #topic open discussion 21:50:41 <armax> we have a bullet point from dasm 21:50:50 <HenryG> I have one too 21:51:08 <dasm> armax: we do? 21:51:18 <armax> Deprecation policy 21:51:26 <armax> on 21:51:29 <armax> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#On_Demand_Agenda 21:51:30 <dasm> True. completely forgot about that :) 21:52:00 <armax> personally I don’t see a difference between the code being deprecated 21:52:10 <armax> so long as the code it’s exercised in neutron 21:52:12 <armax> it must be covered 21:52:28 <armax> until it’s remove 21:52:29 <armax> d 21:52:41 <armax> does that answer your question? 21:53:02 <HenryG> +1 21:53:16 <armax> HenryG: your turn? 21:53:23 <HenryG> OK 21:53:27 <dasm> armax: yep, thx 21:53:34 <HenryG> Due to changes at work I will be ramping down my involvement in upstream Neutron. 21:53:47 <kevinbenton> :'( 21:53:53 <mlavalle> :( 21:54:05 <armax> HenryG: I would want to make a joke to cheer the mood up, but I can’t 21:54:21 <armax> HenryG: you’ll be sorely missed 21:54:22 <dasm> :/ 21:54:33 <amuller> HenryG: shit =/ 21:54:38 <hichihara> :( 21:54:39 <njohnston> :( 21:54:52 <armax> HenryG: please hand over your badge on your way out? 21:54:53 <armax> :S 21:54:58 <SridarK_> HenryG: sigh 21:55:01 <mlavalle> I think amuller elonquently expressed the team's feeling 21:55:13 <armax> mlavalle: amuller is the potty mouth of the group 21:55:33 <dougwig> o rly? 21:55:38 <HenryG> Well, I'll still be around a little on most days 21:55:41 * mlavalle surprised about that 21:55:54 <armax> HenryG: ack 21:56:13 <HenryG> And I have a thing or two to wrap up 21:56:15 <armax> thanks, I hope we can still reach out from time to time to get clarification of how to clean up the mess you leave behind? 21:56:30 <HenryG> But I would suggest looking for another oslo liason 21:56:31 <armax> there, I found energy to make at least a few jokes 21:56:37 <armax> HenryG: aye 21:57:31 <armax> #action neutron oslo liasion for hire 21:57:41 <HenryG> I will always be reachable in IRC 21:58:12 <armax> HenryG: thanks, should circumstances change in the future, you’ll always be welcome 21:58:40 <armax> thanks for all the late hour reviews and more 21:58:50 <HenryG> Thanks, circumstances always change 21:59:13 <HenryG> Neutron is the best project to work with 21:59:29 <armax> and on this note… 21:59:29 <HenryG> Because of all you folks 21:59:51 <armax> I think it’s best way to close the recorded notes! 22:00:08 <armax> thanks everyone! 22:00:11 <armax> #endmeeting