21:00:31 #startmeeting networking 21:00:31 Meeting started Mon Dec 12 21:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:32 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00:33 hi 21:00:34 The meeting name has been set to 'networking' 21:00:56 Hello everyone 21:01:08 Hi 21:01:13 let’s jump in 21:01:23 gn 21:01:36 0/ 21:01:48 #topic Announcements 21:01:57 not much since last week 21:02:09 needless to say, this week is Ocata-2 21:02:31 https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html 21:03:00 so dasm and I will work to find a good cut for O-2 by mid-week 21:03:17 yep 21:03:56 anyone else has anything else as far as announcements/reminders go? 21:04:56 Just to move any lbaas related bugs over to the "octavia" project in launchpad. 21:05:12 johnsom: thanks 21:05:15 If new ones come in. 21:05:22 we should at least tag both projects 21:05:42 * mlavalle takes note since i will be the bug deputy this week 21:05:58 cool 21:06:00 moving on 21:06:03 #topic Blueprints 21:06:20 #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/ocata-2 21:06:29 I went through this dasbhboard last week 21:06:46 and added some status updates here and there 21:07:19 if you are an approver/assignee, please consider providing more coments on the whiteboards 21:07:33 and work with your peer to make sure the blueprints make steady progress 21:07:38 with holidays looming over 21:07:49 and feature freeze happening sooner than usual this cycle 21:07:59 o/ 21:08:01 there’s not much time left for squashing this existing backlog 21:08:57 ihrachys: anything worth sharing on OVO/no API downtime effort? 21:09:09 actually yes :) several things 21:09:18 ihrachys: go for it, you own the floor 21:09:37 we have a pool of patches that I believe are ready for a second reviewer attention 21:09:39 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/adopt-oslo-versioned-objects-for-db+label:Code-Review%252B2 21:10:00 also, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403832/ should be ready but I can't +2 myself ;) 21:10:31 ack 21:10:40 there is also a spec up for review describing the high level approach for no-downtime upgrades that is probably ready too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386685/ 21:11:04 #action core team to squash OVO list asap 21:11:07 of course there is a lot more in the queue than that as can be seen in https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/adopt-oslo-versioned-objects-for-db 21:11:32 but most of this work is in progress, though quite some patches need just a tiny nudge from authors to get ready 21:11:45 ack 21:11:49 that's it from the upgrades subteam, we'll keep you all updated ;) 21:11:57 ihrachys: this one is good to go https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393150/ 21:12:00 also 21:12:06 ihrachys: are you getting enough help from rossella_s? 21:12:18 mlavalle: oh right, that one too, it has a different topic, thanks! 21:12:33 armax: I could use a lot more ;) 21:12:48 ihrachys: i'll change the topic so it shows in that query 21:13:03 mlavalle: makes sense, thanks 21:13:16 ihrachys: you should nudge rossella :) 21:13:25 while at it, I'd like to publicly praise what mlavalle did in comments for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393150/ 21:13:37 but we’ll get these patches on their way to gerrit heaven 21:13:55 that's what you may call taking an extra mile... anyhoo 21:14:01 ihrachys: what did he do? 21:14:13 ihrachys: thanks :-) 21:14:14 let’s praise him while we’re at it 21:14:17 :) 21:14:20 armax: I do nudge, sometimes it doesn't magically result in action, but we do our best. 21:14:31 armax: let's praise him irrespective of what he did! 21:14:44 mlavalle is awesome, hail mlavalle! 21:14:59 anyway, I think we can move on 21:15:01 Thanks again! 21:15:03 * electrocucaracha is praising 21:15:08 mlavalle, :) 21:15:15 I am bowing, but irc doesn’t show 21:16:05 :-) 21:16:20 ok moving on 21:16:30 #topic bugs and gate failures 21:17:12 I am remote so can't paste failure rate link 21:17:22 http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate 21:17:23 this is HALEYB 21:18:07 anyways uptick in hate failure this morning 21:18:07 looks like fullstack is sick 21:18:43 #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=7&fullscreen 21:19:09 #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=6&fullscreen 21:19:15 logs were showing dbdeadlock failures 21:19:19 #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=5&fullscreen 21:19:43 the last two are the key indicators for something bad happening in the gate 21:20:07 we have also a stadium-wide bell weather here: 21:20:09 #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-lib-failure-rate?panelId=4&fullscreen 21:20:42 armax: but it's only fullstack trusty? 21:20:49 armax: which is Mitaka-- at this point 21:21:08 ihrachys: yeah 21:21:11 I was going to say 21:21:13 xenial looks fine 21:22:07 we don't have much patches in mitaka 21:22:12 ihrachys: action item for you and/or kuba to see what’s going on? 21:22:22 so it may as well be a single hit total that resulted in 100% 21:22:26 ihrachys: true 21:22:30 armax: ack on action item 21:22:37 but it usually doesn’t spike that abrubtly 21:22:43 is this due to neutron lib bug filed today or yesterday ? 21:22:58 * armax goes and look 21:23:19 haleyb: any hint on what that might be? 21:23:31 haleyb__: ^^^ 21:23:33 there are hundreds of bugs filed per day :) 21:23:42 although neutron would not be gating with that right ? 21:24:01 nothing stands out here: 21:24:04 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=lib 21:24:18 ihrachys: thanks 21:24:25 I am on phone don't have number handy but patch for the one I'm thinking of already out 21:24:34 haleyb: what is that about? 21:24:48 haleyb: perhaps we can find it if you could give us a clue 21:24:56 or just let’s take this offline 21:25:15 I'll look for link 21:25:28 functional is definitely not ok though :-| 40% steady failure rate 21:25:32 nothing stands out here too 21:25:34 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure 21:26:47 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1649079 21:26:48 Launchpad bug 1649079 in neutron "TypeError seen on gate-neutron-lib-api-ref" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to YAMAMOTO Takashi (yamamoto) 21:27:07 haleyb__: thanks for the link 21:27:07 haleyb: yo rock 21:28:17 this is somewhat different though 21:28:21 api-ref is a doc job 21:28:21 I have no idea if that's it 😀 21:28:47 I was just remembering job failures 21:28:52 * armax makes a note to review taht one 21:28:57 haleyb: fair enough, kudos 21:29:25 does anyone know on the top of their head is neutron-lib is part of the integrated gate? 21:29:32 I would be tempted to say yes 21:29:49 mlavalle I do see the flusherror in some of the logs too 21:30:19 haleyb__: yeah, it must be common 21:30:33 thnaks for the notes 21:30:39 armax: not sure what you mean, but since it's a lib released on pypi and consumed thru reqs.txt, I would say no, it should have an intependent queue in zuul 21:30:52 ihrachys: I’ll double check 21:31:35 thanks 21:32:09 this week we have mlavalle as deputy, anymoe interested to be deputy for the week prior to Christmas? 21:32:15 that should be easy picking, not 21:32:45 yes, I will be on bugs duty this week :-) 21:33:46 I see huge turnout 21:33:47 mlavalle: thanks 21:34:00 yes, ihrachys, please folks not all at once 21:34:06 lol 21:34:23 * armax watches the stampede 21:34:52 * electrocucaracha still waiting for that 21:35:05 I’ll give it a shot 21:35:19 praise our PTL! 21:35:22 thanks armax for volunteering! 21:35:25 that's the spirit! 21:35:28 way to go 21:35:29 ihrachys: ++ 21:35:31 #action armax deputy for week of Dec 19th 21:35:37 merry christmas armax 21:35:48 I said I’d do it 21:35:54 that doesn’t mean I’ll do a good job 21:35:57 :) 21:36:00 lol 21:36:11 oh come on. no one expects good job! 21:36:20 and now, he already threatens us! 21:36:32 you’re all going to pay for this 21:36:33 I haven't done a good job even during non-xmas time 21:36:33 I am sure armax can't do a bad job 21:36:38 I was going to take some time off before the holiday 21:37:00 armax: I can sub in if needed just ping me 21:37:28 ankur-gupta-f1: anyone should be welcome to step in and help review any bug report that comes our way 21:37:42 after all launchpad is open to anybody 21:37:56 ankur-gupta-f1: but thanks, I’ll keep that in mind! 21:38:08 ok 21:38:11 moving on 21:38:15 #topic OSC 21:38:39 for the refactor stuff things picked up 21:38:46 abhiraut has kindly volunteered to help keep an eye on patches that currently are keeping our client queue busy 21:38:53 ack 21:39:00 mainly related to OSC transition bits 21:39:18 a new action item has been added to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osc-network-command-sdk-support 21:39:27 I also heard from amotoki that he’ll be back in full force to help the team squash bits and pieces all over the client repo 21:39:39 to complete the SDK refactor 21:39:45 abhiraut: any patch that requires immediate attention from any of us? 21:39:45 thats good news :) 21:39:51 i shall ping 21:39:57 armax: all the major commands the needs transition have patches out https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osc-neutron-support 21:40:07 sindhu: ack 21:40:20 but the etherpad is updated and we have a decent amount help from volunteers 21:40:33 I need to double check a patch from reedip for gateway-set/clear commands 21:40:45 * armax makes a mental note 21:41:09 armax: there is another blueprint to track the work on missing options https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/network-commands-options-sprint 21:41:09 abhiraut: cool, most of these patches are on the openstackclient/sdk end right? 21:41:13 yes 21:41:24 my understanding is that ankur-gupta-f1 has made a great job coordinating OSIC efforts for OSC 21:41:27 and sindhu has provided the link to CLi. so thanks 21:41:44 hail to ankur-gupta-f1 21:41:48 armax: there are 2 efforts under way as neutron-client plugins. For Tag and Dynamic Routing. But aside from that most are in OSC and SDK 21:41:48 electrocucaracha: ack 21:42:13 ankur-gupta-f1: there are a few more coming up 21:42:20 ankur-gupta-f1: like fwaas, sfc, et al 21:42:32 ankur-gupta-f1: these will be all in the neutronclient repo 21:42:32 fwaas is mostly ready to go 21:42:47 abhiraut: ack, we need to make sure that the server-side patch is ready to roll then 21:42:55 ill do another round of review on it 21:42:58 got it 21:43:08 ool 21:43:09 cool 21:43:11 armax: good to know will go through thanks 21:43:37 ankur-gupta-f1: I asked folks to use topic:stadium-implosion to keep them into one place but to no avail 21:43:50 ankur-gupta-f1: either way they should be easy to find these days 21:43:56 thinking about putting together a cleaner etherpad for all remaining items 21:44:01 the above etherpad is a mess 21:44:07 ankur-gupta-f1: maybe the time is ripe 21:44:12 agreed 21:44:26 ankur-gupta-f1: like something-something-final-steps 21:44:48 Will pull all together and have link up on meeting agenda soon 21:44:53 ankur-gupta-f1: you can link it here: 21:44:54 https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1521291 21:44:55 Launchpad bug 1521291 in neutron "[RFE] Transition neutron CLI from python-neutronclient to python-openstackclient" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Akihiro Motoki (amotoki) 21:45:02 done deal 21:45:20 ok 21:45:28 abhiraut, ankur-gupta-f1: anything else? 21:45:32 if not, moving on 21:45:36 nothing else comes to my mind 21:45:53 nope 21:46:05 #topic neutron-lib, planned refactoring and other impacts 21:46:28 there are a few changes in the pipeline 21:46:56 last periodic check on the lib-dashboard looks good, so we should be able to nudge one more in the gate 21:47:10 the most scary one I can think of is those from Ann 21:47:27 session to context? 21:47:39 ihrachys: aye 21:48:16 I am thinking of nudging this one first https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403329/ 21:48:22 as the base patch merged 21:48:24 without havoc 21:48:52 armax: seems like it's not rebased on latest? 21:49:17 ihrachys: do you think gerrit will barf at the end? 21:49:29 when it attempts to merge? 21:49:32 I don't think it will even put it into zuul 21:49:43 we need to rebase, then push 21:49:49 it’s churning now 21:49:51 ok rebased 21:50:07 damn 21:50:09 I saw it in the gate 21:50:14 ihrachys: afaik, gerrit wouldn't complain if it's not rebased. 21:50:16 it was fine I think 21:50:21 oh well 21:50:21 armax: ok assume I don't know shit 21:50:27 ihrachys: you broke everything :'( 21:50:44 * armax makes a note that ihrachys doesn’t know manure as per his own words 21:50:51 :) 21:51:08 armax: anyhoo it should be easy to push it once more :) 21:51:23 ihrachys: you increased global warming right there 21:51:34 ihrachys: lots of CO2 emission for nothing 21:51:37 anyhoo 21:51:41 it's pretty cold down here, I don't see how it's an isuse 21:51:53 lol 21:51:54 ihrachys: it’s all relative, my friend, it’s all relative 21:51:59 butterfly effect 21:52:19 anyhoo, my suggestion is to eye Ann’s patches next 21:52:35 I need to get on with my context patches 21:52:46 ihrachys: we'll talk about CO2 when you'll move to CA 21:52:49 but I found a pretty big flaw in the way the context was exported in the first place 21:53:10 dasm: if he doesn’t hurry there won’t be anything he can move to 21:53:40 * ihrachys should get to it with reviews, but I agree with electrocucaracha's sentiment there that TypeDriverNew is not an ideal name 21:53:41 xD 21:53:57 ok 21:54:05 one more thing related to this section 21:54:46 when ihrachys does have his brain wired, he has been working on a couple patches that aim at documenting our approach on how to deal with runtime changes 21:55:14 ihrachys: wanna share with the team? 21:55:39 yeah, I proposed some policy change that should help us track changes that may affect supported platforms 21:55:40 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402004/ 21:56:07 tl;dr be more cautious about new runtime deps; and use UpgradeImpact tag in commit message in some more cases 21:56:10 ihrachys: the gist of it, if you are a core reviewer, before you put something in the gate, think twice 21:56:28 general rule :) 21:56:38 in particular, if the change affects the runtime, think three times :) 21:57:19 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+message:%22UpgradeImpact%22+project:openstack/neutron 21:57:50 there are a few in the pipeline, we should keep an eye on those 21:58:12 * ihrachys will incorporate the link into upgrades subteam meeting protocol 21:58:53 btw 2 mins 21:59:14 ihrachys: ack 21:59:17 ok 21:59:18 1 minute 21:59:28 #topic open discussion 21:59:29 :) 21:59:37 anyone has anything to share in <60 sec? 21:59:47 if not 21:59:49 just one thing. liberty is EOL 21:59:51 I share love 22:00:00 and appreciation 22:00:01 Happy Holidays! 22:00:01 good riddance 22:00:03 o/ 22:00:28 bye everone 22:00:30 everyone 22:00:32 bye 22:00:33 bye 22:00:34 o/ 22:00:36 thabks bye 22:00:37 by 22:00:38 bye 22:00:44 thanks for participating 22:00:46 thxbye 22:00:46 #endmeeting