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14:00:11 <slaweq> hi
14:00:13 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'networking'
14:00:16 <mlavalle> o/
14:00:17 <njohnston> o/
14:00:18 <lajoskatona> Hi
14:00:19 <rubasov> o/
14:01:31 <amotoki> o/
14:01:39 <slaweq> lets start
14:01:41 <slaweq> #topic Announcements
14:02:03 <slaweq> Release calendar https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html reminders:
14:02:22 <slaweq> Our next milestone is Victoria-3 in the week of 7th September
14:02:45 <slaweq> but there is also proposal for release calendar for Wallaby cycle: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016391.html
14:03:11 <slaweq> Virtual PTG will be in the week of 26th of October: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016424.html
14:03:46 <slaweq> and that's short announcements from my today
14:03:56 <slaweq> anything else You want to share with the team maybe?
14:05:12 <slaweq> if not, lets move on to the next topic
14:05:14 <slaweq> #topic Blueprints
14:05:23 <slaweq> Blueprints for Victoria-3: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/victoria-3
14:05:35 <slaweq> do You have any updates about any of them?
14:05:56 <lajoskatona> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/replace-qos-of-bound-port
14:06:36 <lajoskatona> I discussed lst wee kwith ralonsoh, and we agreed to try with placement allocation update before db transaction, and today basically it worked
14:07:27 <lajoskatona> so that can be an option, the other one is to do it after db transaction, and in that case port update will be async, as placement update is time consuming
14:07:50 <lajoskatona> I tried to summarize these on bug page, when ralonsoh will be back we can discuss I suppose how to proceed
14:08:24 <slaweq> in the second solution You will need to rollback db changes if something will go wrong in placement?
14:09:35 <lajoskatona> no then the update will fail before db change
14:10:04 <slaweq> lajoskatona: ??
14:10:06 <lajoskatona> you mean when placement update happens after db transaction? than we need rollback, sorry
14:10:12 <slaweq> yes
14:10:14 <slaweq> ok
14:10:50 <slaweq> so then we may have "weird" situation when user is doing port update to change QoS policy and it gets result which confirms him that policy is changed
14:11:15 <slaweq> but then placement fails to allocate new resources and qos policy is rollback to the old one
14:11:17 <slaweq> is that correct?
14:12:03 <lajoskatona> yes
14:12:26 <lajoskatona> or another extra should be to add some status for the update and user can poll that
14:12:41 <lajoskatona> and that can show if everythin (placement i.e.) succeeded
14:12:48 <slaweq> I'm not sure if that's good idea but we can discuss that with ralonsoh next week
14:13:04 <lajoskatona> slaweq: ok
14:13:32 <lajoskatona> next week I will be on PTO, but after that we can discuss if everybody have time
14:13:38 <slaweq> lajoskatona: ok
14:13:45 <slaweq> lajoskatona: thx for the update on this
14:14:01 <lajoskatona> slaweq: thanks for the time for it :-)
14:14:13 <slaweq> any other updates about BPs?
14:16:17 <slaweq> ok, so I have short update about some of them
14:16:27 <slaweq> first https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/default-dns-zone-per-tenant
14:16:52 <slaweq> neutron and neutron-tempest-plugins:  https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686343/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/733994/ are ready for review
14:17:04 <slaweq> and when it will be done, this RFE will be completed
14:17:14 <slaweq> please add it to Your review pile :)
14:17:32 <slaweq> and also similar with George framework: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1863113
14:17:33 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1863113 in neutron "[RFE] Introduce new testing framework for Neutron - OVN integration - a.k.a George" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Jakub Libosvar (libosvar)
14:17:39 <slaweq> patches https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:george+(status:open+OR+status:merged) - all ready for review now
14:17:50 <slaweq> that's at least what jlibosva told me today :)
14:18:23 <mlavalle> some have -1 from gerrit
14:18:32 <slaweq> for other BPs I'm trying to keep links to the opened patches in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#Blueprints so please take a look and review them if You will have some time
14:19:05 <slaweq> mlavalle: but I think that errors are unrelated
14:19:14 <mlavalle> ack
14:19:43 <slaweq> I know that there is now (again) some issue with grenade jobs but I haven't got time to check it yet
14:20:25 <slaweq> ahh, and one more thing
14:20:45 <tosky> are those grenade jobs not zuulv3 yet?
14:21:26 <slaweq> please also check ovn-devstack patches from lucasgomes: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:ovn-devstack+(status:open+OR+status:merged)
14:21:33 <slaweq> we should move on with that
14:21:43 <slaweq> tosky: neutron grenade jobs are zuulv3 already, why?
14:21:52 <tosky> slaweq: yes, they are
14:22:59 <slaweq> ok, speaking about zuulv3 migration
14:23:02 <slaweq> #topic Community Goals
14:23:16 <slaweq> any updates on community goals from You?
14:23:36 <slaweq> I didn't had time to work on zuulv3 nor Ubuntu 20.04 this week
14:23:41 <tosky> I ported a job: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745522/
14:23:58 <tosky> not sure it should live in that repository, but the point of the migration is just to convert it
14:24:24 <tosky> apart from that, there are some WIP reviews that may need some love and help
14:24:38 <tosky> reminder about the status, see from line 175 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/goal-victoria-native-zuulv3-migration
14:25:20 <slaweq> thx tosky
14:25:28 <slaweq> I will try to review them ASAP
14:27:08 <slaweq> ok, so I think we can move on with the next topics now, right?
14:27:48 <tosky> I don't have anything else on this topic for now
14:28:11 <slaweq> #topic Bugs
14:28:18 <slaweq> mlavalle was our bug deputy last week
14:28:29 <slaweq> mlavalle: any bugs You want to highlight now?
14:28:45 <mlavalle> yeah...
14:29:09 <mlavalle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1890445 needs owner
14:29:10 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1890445 in neutron "[ovn] Tempest test test_update_router_admin_state failing very often" [Critical,Confirmed]
14:29:43 <mlavalle> that's it
14:29:45 <slaweq> I asked jlibosva today if he can take a look at it
14:30:52 <slaweq> thx mlavalle
14:31:05 <slaweq> it seems from Your report that it was pretty quiet week
14:32:06 <slaweq> this week our bug deputy is rubasov and he's already aware of it
14:32:14 <rubasov> ack
14:32:28 <slaweq> next week will be ralonsoh and I will make sure that he will not forget :P
14:33:37 <slaweq> any other bugs anyone wants to discuss today?
14:35:18 <slaweq> ok, if not I think we can move on
14:35:28 <slaweq> I have one more item for today
14:35:33 <slaweq> #topic On demand agenda
14:35:46 <slaweq> User survey question
14:36:10 <slaweq> I recently got email from Kendall about this years user survey and if we want to change something in neutron related question
14:36:27 <slaweq> I should send proposal of changes this week
14:36:35 <slaweq> I already started looking at it
14:37:15 <slaweq> but I wanted to ask You if You want me to send it to the ML that we can discuss it together or do You want me to update possible options in the question?
14:38:30 <njohnston> what are our current questions?
14:38:44 <slaweq> njohnston: there is one which I got:
14:39:28 <slaweq> "Which of the following features in the Neutron project are you actively using, interested in using or looking forward to useing in your OpenStack deployment?"
14:39:57 <slaweq> and there is about 21 possible options to choose
14:40:24 <njohnston> ah yes, now I am rememberig
14:41:44 <njohnston> I think the list of options is pretty stable
14:41:56 <slaweq> yes, but I have couple of types to add there
14:42:12 <slaweq> like e.g. SR-IOV, Trunk ports or port forwarding
14:42:20 <slaweq> which are not there
14:42:54 <njohnston> +1
14:43:02 <slaweq> and for some of the answers I'm really not sure what they means exactly
14:43:18 <slaweq> like e.g.: "traffic steering" - is that networking-sfc?
14:43:24 <slaweq> or something different?
14:44:21 <slaweq> mlavalle: njohnston maybe You would know :)
14:44:43 <njohnston> when I think of "traffic steering" I think of something like lbaas
14:44:52 <mlavalle> yeah
14:45:08 <slaweq> for lbaas is another option: "software load balancing"
14:45:30 <njohnston> then it probably refers to policy based routing, which is under the SFC umbrella
14:45:52 <haleyb> maybe remove any lbaas?  there is this octavia project :)
14:46:03 <slaweq> njohnston: thx for clarification
14:46:13 <slaweq> haleyb: yes, that's another thing which I was thinking of
14:47:38 <slaweq> haleyb: I will propose to remove this option from the list :)
14:47:53 <haleyb> thanks!
14:48:21 <slaweq> there is also option "Port mirroring/monitoring" there
14:48:28 <slaweq> do we have something like that in Neutron?
14:48:46 <lajoskatona> tap-as-a-service?
14:48:48 <slaweq> we had TaaS project but is it related to it?
14:48:55 <lajoskatona> but that is in x/ namespace now
14:49:01 <slaweq> lajoskatona: exactly
14:49:11 <slaweq> that's why I'm not sure about it
14:49:25 <njohnston> tap as a service was all about port mirroring
14:49:53 <lajoskatona> and for sure it is used
14:50:02 <slaweq> ok, so lets keep it there
14:50:11 <lajoskatona> but far from being mature enough
14:50:20 <slaweq> it may be some argument to include it (or not) in stadium at some point if that will be requested :)
14:50:20 <njohnston> AFAIK TaaS is the only way to achieve real port mirroring
14:50:43 <njohnston> (in tenant networks)
14:51:15 <slaweq> so that were all doubts which I had
14:51:22 <slaweq> thx for help with it
14:51:42 <slaweq> and that's all from me for today
14:51:50 <slaweq> anything else You want to talk about?
14:53:38 <slaweq> ok, so I will give you few minutes back today
14:53:43 <slaweq> thx for attending the meeting
14:53:46 <slaweq> see You online
14:53:48 <slaweq> o/
14:53:50 <njohnston> o/
14:53:51 <slaweq> #endmeeting