14:00:53 <slaweq> #startmeeting networking
14:00:54 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Mar 30 14:00:53 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:00:57 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'networking'
14:00:59 <mlavalle> o/
14:01:17 <ralonsoh> hi
14:01:32 <haleyb> hi
14:01:35 <slaweq> hi
14:02:04 <njohnston> o/
14:02:51 <bcafarel> o/
14:02:54 <slaweq> #topic announcements
14:03:12 <slaweq> Wallaby release calendar https://releases.openstack.org/wallaby/schedule.html
14:03:19 <slaweq> Last week we cut RC1 for almost all projects now, master is effectively opened for Xena development now
14:03:44 <slaweq> for neutron repo there are some patches which I think would be good to backport this week and make rc2
14:03:58 <slaweq> I will propose it later this week
14:04:14 <rubasov> o/
14:05:04 <slaweq> if You have any patches like that, please propose backport to stable/wallaby and ping me on irc
14:05:21 <slaweq> also, it seems that we will need to deprecate networking-midonet project
14:05:26 <slaweq> thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-March/021376.html
14:05:34 <slaweq> patches proposed today https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22deprecate-networking-midonet%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)
14:06:12 <slaweq> TL;DR amotoki had concern that this project is currently broken and it shouldn't be released in such state
14:06:43 <slaweq> today, after I sent all those patches to deprecate it, sorrison replied to one of my emails
14:06:55 <slaweq> but I'm not sure if it still should be in the neutron stadium
14:07:11 <slaweq> IMO sorrison can keep it in x/ namespace if they still run it
14:07:24 <slaweq> but I would also like to know Your opinions about it
14:07:49 <njohnston> I think it's best to have it in the x/ namespace
14:07:59 <bcafarel> I was thinking about x/ namespace too, it's a nice middle ground
14:07:59 <lajoskatona> Moving things to x/ is terrible but can work
14:08:20 <slaweq> lajoskatona: why it's terrible?
14:08:42 <njohnston> Being in the stadium means the broader Neutron team has a responsibility to networking-midonet to help keep it updated, which I think we can recognize we are not in a position to do.
14:08:46 <lajoskatona> a lot of patches to different repos, with headache, and discussions with infra :-)
14:08:59 <ralonsoh> If we move it to x/, does it means we'll still have a W release for this project?
14:09:16 <slaweq> ralonsoh: nope
14:09:16 <ralonsoh> ok then to move it to x/
14:09:27 <slaweq> with my patches linked above we will not release it anymore
14:09:34 <lajoskatona> no their is no nice automate scripts, so there is release if you do it manually or do your scripts
14:09:47 <slaweq> and in x/ maintainers will be able to release whenever want
14:11:16 <mlavalle> if we cannot live up to our responsibility to keep the project in good shape, we shouldn't pretend we do. It should be removed from the Stadium
14:11:40 <slaweq> mlavalle: that's also mine opinion about it
14:13:52 <slaweq> ok, so I will continue with that deprecation of it
14:13:55 <slaweq> thx
14:14:04 <slaweq> ok, lets move on
14:14:07 <slaweq> next reminder
14:14:21 <slaweq> Virtual PTG 19-23th April
14:14:27 <slaweq> etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/neutron-xena-ptg
14:14:34 <slaweq> please add Your topic there :)
14:14:52 <slaweq> according to doodle I choosen time slots for our sessions
14:15:00 <slaweq> details are in the http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-March/021263.html
14:15:05 <slaweq> and in the etherpad as well
14:15:24 <slaweq> we will have sessions for 4 days
14:15:36 <slaweq> Wednesday is "no neutron day" in the ptg :)
14:16:08 <bcafarel> kids=="no neutron"?
14:16:19 <bcafarel> (as Wednesday is kids day too)
14:16:27 <slaweq> kids day?
14:16:29 <slaweq> where?
14:16:34 <slaweq> :)
14:17:33 <slaweq> do You have any other announcements for today?
14:19:45 <slaweq> ok, lets move on then
14:19:49 <slaweq> next topic
14:20:01 <slaweq> #topic Community goals
14:20:10 <slaweq> ralonsoh: any updates?
14:20:30 <ralonsoh> slaweq, not yet, still investigating the issue with os.kill
14:21:27 <slaweq> k
14:21:49 <slaweq> btw. do we know if there are any new goals for Xena cycle?
14:22:03 <ralonsoh> not that I recall
14:22:16 <ralonsoh> but checking governance repo
14:22:45 <bcafarel> that will be discussed at ptg no?
14:23:34 <slaweq> bcafarel: idk really
14:23:36 <njohnston> IIRC the plan was for there to be no goal for Xena, to give the projects a break, calling it a 'stabilization' goal.  But I have been out of the loop a bit.
14:23:36 <slaweq> just asking
14:23:59 <slaweq> njohnston: thx, I thought I heard something like that somewhere but I wasn't sure
14:24:11 <bcafarel> oh true that sounds familiar
14:25:07 <slaweq> ok, thx for the info
14:25:12 <slaweq> I think we can move on
14:25:16 <slaweq> #topic bugs
14:25:23 <slaweq> lajoskatona was bug deputy, report: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-March/021375.html
14:25:35 <slaweq> lajoskatona: any bugs You want to highlight?
14:25:45 <lajoskatona> just a sec I check it
14:26:36 <lajoskatona> as I remember all bugs has somebody to push, or even was merged the solution workaround for it
14:27:11 <lajoskatona> so except the critical "before-release" bugs it was a usual week
14:27:57 <slaweq> thx, I saw from Your report that most bugs are assigned and in good shape
14:28:50 <lajoskatona> exactly
14:29:02 <slaweq> I wanted to talk about one bug today
14:29:04 <slaweq> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1921713
14:29:06 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1921713 in neutron "Strings in tags field is limited to 60 chars" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Harald Jensås (harald-jensas)
14:29:13 <slaweq> Patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/783647
14:29:19 <slaweq> can we still make it to wallaby?
14:29:32 <slaweq> it has db upgrade script so in theory we shouldn't backport it
14:29:45 <slaweq> but we are before release still
14:29:47 <slaweq> so wdyt?
14:30:43 <bcafarel> hmm db changes (even small ones) between RCs scare me a bit
14:31:00 <slaweq> bcafarel: that's why I'm asking here :)
14:31:45 <ralonsoh> I asked him to move the DB change to Xena for this reason...
14:31:57 <slaweq> ralonsoh: yes, it will be in Xena
14:32:01 <ralonsoh> is there any reason to keep it in W?
14:32:07 <bcafarel> side note if we want to have this one slaweq you should probably stop https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/783671/1 from merging
14:32:22 <ralonsoh> right
14:32:27 <ralonsoh> I'll -W for now
14:32:51 <slaweq> I'm not really sure if it's good idea to backport it
14:32:57 <slaweq> it may hit us later
14:33:06 <slaweq> in some unpredicatble way
14:33:07 <ralonsoh> no, we should not backport a DB change
14:33:13 <slaweq> and we will not have way to fix it
14:33:18 <slaweq> lets not do it now
14:33:20 <ralonsoh> but we can force the release process accepting it
14:33:24 <bcafarel> just from branch view stable/wallaby is out and exists
14:33:26 <slaweq> it can land in Xena and that's all
14:33:50 <bcafarel> so it should probably not get DB changes (even if created 4 days ago)
14:34:02 <ralonsoh> slaweq, is there a hard requirement to have it in W?
14:34:50 <haleyb> i think it was just because some tripleo changes merges in W that need it
14:35:15 <haleyb> i.e. they can fail with large tag names
14:36:23 <mlavalle> I think it is better not to backport it to W
14:36:38 <ralonsoh> mlavalle, and merge it today into W?
14:36:59 <slaweq> ralonsoh: we can't merge it into W without merging it first to master
14:38:36 <slaweq> I would say like mlavalle - lets just merge it to master and not backport it
14:38:47 <mlavalle> yeap
14:38:53 <slaweq> there are rules regarding backports and we should follow them
14:41:11 <slaweq> and that was last thing which I had for today
14:41:22 <slaweq> do You have any other bugs to discuss today?
14:41:25 <slaweq> or any other topics?
14:43:07 <slaweq> ok, if not, then I will give You some time back
14:43:11 <slaweq> thx for attending the meeting
14:43:14 <slaweq> o/
14:43:16 <bcafarel> o/
14:43:16 <ralonsoh> bye
14:43:17 <slaweq> #endmeeting