18:32:56 <SumitNaiksatam> #startmeeting Networking FWaaS
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18:33:17 <SumitNaiksatam> #topic bugs
18:34:05 <SumitNaiksatam> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1314313
18:34:15 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: you are working on this
18:34:36 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: yes - a bit slow this week
18:34:52 <SridarK> i think we may have a corner case timing issue
18:34:54 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: thanks for your effort
18:35:06 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: ok
18:35:09 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: no worries  - will keep u posted on this
18:35:22 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: per salvatore’s comments, i am glad that this is not hitting the gate as much now
18:35:39 <SridarK> i need to drive the workflow programattically to see if i can reproduce
18:35:49 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: but lets try to wrap this up, if its outside our control, we can create a different bug for the router
18:35:59 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: sounds good
18:36:24 <SumitNaiksatam> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1320775
18:36:35 <SumitNaiksatam> not sure if Rajesh is here
18:37:12 <rand738> Hi Sumit
18:37:13 <SumitNaiksatam> it was great that he got the fix in quickly: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94516/
18:37:30 <SumitNaiksatam> rand738: hi
18:37:55 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: I went thru the review - just need to validate on the deferred being turned off
18:37:58 <SumitNaiksatam> Rajesh’s fix looks good, but i just wanted to check if we can add a UT, so that we catch this
18:38:06 <SridarK> i will also post a review on this
18:38:07 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: nice!
18:39:21 <SumitNaiksatam> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1310857
18:40:04 <SumitNaiksatam> looks like the author needs to address some comments
18:40:14 <SumitNaiksatam> however this is high, may be we need to follow up with him
18:41:01 <SridarK> Yes - i was not sure on the approach of getting the FWaaS Plugin on the agent
18:41:32 <SumitNaiksatam> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1318617
18:42:24 <SumitNaiksatam> havent investigated this
18:42:32 <SumitNaiksatam> but its currently low
18:42:37 <SumitNaiksatam> if anyone wants to take it
18:42:50 <SridarK> Hmm this is odd
18:43:25 <SridarK> fairly easy recreate - let me try a recreate and post comments on the bug
18:43:31 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: nice
18:44:00 <SumitNaiksatam> #topic Juno planning and feature tracking
18:44:31 <SumitNaiksatam> so my proposal is that we start tracking things in this meeting
18:44:36 <SumitNaiksatam> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/FWaaS/JunoPlan
18:44:57 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: +1
18:45:04 <beyounn_1> +1
18:45:08 <SumitNaiksatam> ok cool
18:45:22 <SumitNaiksatam> i volunteered your names for a lot of things :-P
18:45:35 <SumitNaiksatam> these are placeholders
18:45:37 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: thats good
18:45:38 <beyounn_1> +1
18:45:43 <SumitNaiksatam> others can jump in
18:46:00 <SumitNaiksatam> but we need to be cognizant of the fact that these aspects need to be covered for every feature
18:46:32 <SumitNaiksatam> i havent checked if there are any tempest related pending blueprints, we would need to add those here
18:46:48 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: spoke to mlavalle as well
18:46:51 <SumitNaiksatam> so we are in general agreement with the process of tracking here?
18:46:56 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: great
18:47:05 <SridarK> he will be adding something for tempest scenario
18:47:22 <SridarK> yes in agreement
18:47:58 <SumitNaiksatam> ok
18:48:32 <SumitNaiksatam> #topic proposed features’ and blueprints
18:49:05 <SumitNaiksatam> rather than going into each blueprint today, i suggest that we just have a general discussion
18:49:17 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: yes that is better
18:49:25 <SumitNaiksatam> is there any feedback that you folks got after our session
18:49:27 <SumitNaiksatam> ?
18:49:33 <SumitNaiksatam> i had to leave to catch the flight
18:49:56 <beyounn_1> other than dvr, no much from me
18:50:09 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: i thought it was well recvd - had a few folks come and talk after and looks like we are on track with our priorities
18:50:10 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: ok, again great that you brought it up
18:50:15 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: nice
18:50:34 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: suggestion - to get the DVR issue on record, can you send out an email to the mailing list?
18:50:57 <beyounn_1> I put it in the DVR ether pad already
18:51:10 <beyounn_1> and had an discussion with DVR forks this morning
18:51:18 <beyounn_1> i will keep update based on the discussion
18:51:18 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: cool, but people might forget the etherpad (and its not searchable via google)
18:51:41 <beyounn_1> Yes, let me collect all the feedbacks and thoughts then send an email
18:51:49 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1:  i would just say that you can copy paste your input in the etherpad and send to the dev mailer
18:51:53 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: thanks
18:51:57 <beyounn_1> Sure
18:52:22 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: is there any solution apparent?
18:52:39 <beyounn_1> yes
18:52:46 <beyounn_1> That is what I want to talking about
18:52:55 <beyounn_1> Do we have time now?
18:53:11 <beyounn_1> I you prefer that I send an private email among all of us ?
18:53:12 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: sure
18:53:33 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: may be quick update, so that others who read these logs know what is going on
18:54:13 <beyounn_1> Since the br-int knows whether a packet has be routed or switched, so we can add something in the br-int to force the traffic to fw before the traffic hits on the DVR
18:54:47 <beyounn_1> I got two questions that is working on, 1 if we are not on router, then we don't don't have zone but just can use address book
18:55:13 <beyounn_1> even if we are using address book, how can we get the namespace info is something I'm still not clear
18:55:39 <beyounn_1> And I took action item to dicuss these with FWaaS team
18:55:52 <beyounn_1> Ok, this is the summary for this morning's meeting
18:56:50 <beyounn_1> shot, bad bad typing
18:57:01 <beyounn_1> can you guys understand what I have typed ? :-)
18:57:06 <SridarK> beyounn_1: ;-)
18:57:12 <SumitNaiksatam> i am trying to :-P
18:57:20 <SridarK> beyounn_1: perhaps more offline discussion
18:57:31 <beyounn_1> Ok, let's me send out email :-)
18:57:50 <beyounn_1> sorry, for the typing...
18:57:56 <beyounn_1> in a meeting ... :-)
18:58:00 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: i did not get the address book part, but that might just be terminology
18:58:13 <beyounn_1> think about subnets
18:58:17 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: ok, sorry to put you on the spot
18:58:34 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1:  you can follow up in your email
18:58:36 <beyounn_1> SumitNaiksatam: not at all
18:59:07 <beyounn_1> I will send email later today
19:00:01 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK gduan: any other feedback you received?
19:00:35 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: had some discussion on Zones with some folks - mostly other vendors
19:00:51 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK:  ok good, do agree with the idea?
19:01:04 <SumitNaiksatam> *do they
19:01:04 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: yes we are aligned
19:01:42 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: ok good
19:02:25 <SumitNaiksatam> gduan: any discussions on the flavors?
19:03:28 <gduan> Hi
19:04:01 <gduan> Mark commented on the spec review and asked to added detail
19:04:26 <gduan> Did Eugene put on his spec?
19:05:04 <SumitNaiksatam> gduan: eugene is on the road
19:05:13 <SumitNaiksatam> gduan: so he has not updated his spec
19:05:23 <SumitNaiksatam> gduan: i think he is going to be on the road at least for a week
19:06:11 <beyounn_1> Gary is on customer call now
19:06:15 <SumitNaiksatam> once eugene gets back, lets have a focussed meeting with the reviewers and hash out the details once and for all
19:06:21 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: sure np
19:06:35 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: is pradeep around?
19:06:54 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: Hmm i am not sure
19:07:01 <SumitNaiksatam> I would like to understand if he has everything he needs to get started for the hit count bp
19:07:23 <SridarK> Based on conversations in the Summit he is good to get started
19:07:26 <SumitNaiksatam> for starters he needs to file a gerrit spec so that we are all aligned in terms of what we want to do
19:07:31 <SridarK> on the other stuff
19:07:32 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: good
19:07:36 <SridarK> not hit count
19:07:41 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: ah ok
19:07:58 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: perhaps he can join next meeting?
19:08:01 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: i think their priority is to get the basic usage stats down
19:08:08 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: i will remind him
19:08:14 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: that sounds like a good start
19:08:40 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: as they have nothing right now and this was echoed in their  Design session as well
19:08:49 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: good
19:10:04 <SumitNaiksatam> #topic  Vendor blueprints
19:10:13 <SumitNaiksatam> is Karthik here?
19:10:37 <SumitNaiksatam> ok hopefully he will join next week as well
19:11:35 <SumitNaiksatam> so can you all add the vendor blueprints as topics on the table as well?
19:11:44 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: yes will do
19:11:47 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: thanks
19:11:52 <beyounn_1> Ok
19:12:22 <SumitNaiksatam> things that we dont add to the table will fall off the radar and most likely not make it
19:12:25 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1:  thanks
19:12:31 <SumitNaiksatam> #open discussion
19:12:44 <SumitNaiksatam> #topic open discussion
19:12:56 <beyounn_1> Sumit, how to get the bp spec approved?
19:13:01 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1:  :-)
19:13:14 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1:  you mean the service objects?
19:13:17 <beyounn_1> Yes
19:13:18 <SridarK> beyounn_1: i added some comments to ur review
19:13:25 <beyounn_1> Saw it
19:13:28 <beyounn_1> I will updated
19:13:33 <beyounn_1> s/updated/update/
19:13:46 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: our best chance is as a team
19:14:02 <SridarK> beyounn_1: we can do the internal reviews and get the +1 first to push for cores as Sumit mentioned in the prev mtg
19:14:15 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: i mean we all review each other’s blueprints and provide enough information for cores to act on this
19:14:21 <SumitNaiksatam> yeah like SridarK said
19:14:27 <beyounn_1> Ok, let's clean up my spec ASAP
19:14:37 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: which was really like u said :-)
19:14:38 <beyounn_1> s/let's/let me/
19:14:46 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: any chance that you can get your potential “users” to look at this as well?
19:14:49 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: :-)
19:14:57 <SumitNaiksatam> my comment is in general
19:15:11 <beyounn_1> SumitNaiksatam: don't think so
19:15:17 <SumitNaiksatam> i would strongly suggest that we involve potential users in this, and let them drive the requirements
19:15:26 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: ah, ok
19:15:49 <beyounn_1> SumitNaiksatam: but I will try, harmless anyway
19:15:57 <SumitNaiksatam> it becomes much easier to prioritize when its requirements driven
19:16:06 <SumitNaiksatam> beyounn_1: i think its critical
19:16:18 <beyounn_1> SumitNaiksatam: agreed
19:16:20 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: also perhaps some folks filing bugs now are potential users
19:16:40 <SumitNaiksatam> SridarK: yes, reach out to them :-)
19:17:03 <SridarK> yes will do
19:17:14 <SumitNaiksatam> in general, the more people we get to do meaningful reviews, the better our chances
19:17:44 <SumitNaiksatam> it was mentioned during the summit discussions that meaningful +1s also carry a lot of weight
19:18:07 <SumitNaiksatam> ok what else?
19:18:20 <beyounn_1> I'm good
19:18:25 <SridarK> SumitNaiksatam: thats all from me as well
19:18:40 <SumitNaiksatam> great, thanks eveyrone, it was great meeting you in Atlanta
19:18:49 <SumitNaiksatam> onward to Juno! ;-)
19:18:51 <beyounn_1> :-)
19:18:54 <SridarK> yes sam here
19:18:56 <SumitNaiksatam> see you next week, bye
19:18:57 <SridarK> same
19:18:59 <SridarK> bye
19:19:01 <SumitNaiksatam> #endmeeting