14:00:23 <mestery> #startmeeting networking_ml2
14:00:24 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Sep 25 14:00:23 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:00:27 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2'
14:00:36 <mestery> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2 Agenda
14:00:53 <mestery> A very light and focused agenda again today.
14:01:08 <mestery> #topic devstack
14:01:25 <mestery> First item is changing devstack to default to ML2 instead of OVS.
14:01:37 <mestery> Which is tracked with this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1220745
14:01:39 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1220745 in devstack "Change devstack to use the ML2 plugin instead of the OVS plugin by default" [Undecided,In progress]
14:01:56 <mestery> Right now rkukura and I are trying to understand why tempest is failing with ML2.
14:02:38 <mestery> We hope to track this down soon.
14:02:49 <rkukura> We need the full set of tempest smoke tests to pass, since these are used in the gate
14:03:30 <mestery> Yes. We haven't had much luck with consistency of failures at this point.
14:03:35 <sukhdev> Are these the tests that are run by Jenkins?
14:03:50 <mestery> Yes
14:04:12 <mestery> We had thought that Yong's port-binding and LBaaS patch may help, and we'll likely recheck the devstack review once this goes in (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47309/)
14:04:27 <rkukura> but I, mestery, and the gate all seem to consistently get different failures
14:05:22 <mestery> So we'll keep at this today and hope to figure this one out.
14:05:42 <rkukura> any help from others would be appreciated as well
14:05:55 <mestery> One more devstack item
14:06:02 <mestery> Per MechanismDriver config with devstack
14:06:05 <mestery> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40882/ Review
14:06:11 <mestery> feleouet: Good timing here. :)
14:06:19 <mestery> I addressed your concerns, so another review would be appreciated
14:06:31 <mestery> The new patch is simpler to use
14:06:59 <sukhdev> is there a way to specify .ini file? I tried to do it and it did not work for me
14:07:17 <mestery> Yes, you can do that, but that method is limited to a .ini file from /opt/stack/neutron/etc.
14:07:27 <mestery> So you end up modifying a .ini file in place and it copies it from there.
14:07:35 <mestery> Which works, but this review patch is more flexible IMHO.
14:07:42 <feleouet> mestery: great! Anyway, will this change cover per-Md config: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46768/
14:08:13 <mestery> feleouet: Yes, that looks likely, I'll review that one, thanks for pointing it out!
14:08:38 <feleouet> (it looks like deans want to deprecate EXTA_OPTS)
14:08:54 <mestery> Yes, and this makes sense, as some of that code was replicated.
14:09:06 <mestery> It's likely I will abandon my prior patch in favor of this one.
14:09:30 <mestery> Any other devstack items or issues by anyone?
14:09:54 <sukhdev> It worked mostly for me - will test one more time with .ini file and post on the review.
14:10:22 <mestery> #topic Documentation
14:10:26 <mestery> rkukura?
14:11:07 <rkukura> See https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=ml2
14:11:24 <mestery> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=ml2 ML2 Documentation Bugs
14:11:27 <rkukura> There are 4 main items
14:11:43 <rkukura> I've signed up for the cloud admin guide
14:12:00 <rkukura> That's https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1230283
14:12:02 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1230283 in openstack-manuals "Add neutron ml2 plugin info to cloud admin guide" [Undecided,New]
14:12:25 <mestery> Looks like the other 3 need owners.
14:12:25 <dandrushko> rkukura: which os these relates to Networking admin guide?
14:12:35 <rkukura> I think dandrushko is taking https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1230266
14:12:37 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1230266 in openstack-manuals "Update neutron demo in install-guide to use ml2 plugin" [Undecided,New]
14:13:06 <rkukura> so we need someone for https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1229237
14:13:07 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1229237 in openstack-manuals "Update configuration reference for neutron ml2 plugin" [Undecided,New]
14:13:08 <dandrushko> ok, if you don't mind i'll take this one
14:13:27 <rkukura> and someone for https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1230276
14:13:28 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1230276 in openstack-manuals "Add neutron ml2 plugin info to installation guide" [Undecided,New]
14:13:46 <sukhdev> I can take one of these
14:13:48 <mestery> Please assign yourself these bugs in launchpad and perhaps ping rkukura to let him know once you've done that so we don't duplicate ffort.
14:13:51 <mestery> *effort
14:13:59 <dandrushko> ok
14:14:02 <mestery> Cool
14:14:07 <mestery> sukhdev: Thanks!
14:14:32 <mestery> rkukura had sent out an email with instructions on setting yoruself up for documentation updates, that was very helpful to me at least!
14:14:48 <sukhdev> Shall I assign https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1230276 to myself?
14:14:50 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1230276 in openstack-manuals "Add neutron ml2 plugin info to installation guide" [Undecided,New]
14:15:02 <rkukura> sukhdev: +1
14:15:07 <dandrushko> i've assigned to this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1230266
14:15:08 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1230266 in openstack-manuals "Update neutron demo in install-guide to use ml2 plugin" [Undecided,New]
14:15:16 <roaet> Hello all, sorry I'm late, terrible traffic.
14:15:43 <mestery> roaet: No worries, we're just looking at documentation bugs now.
14:15:54 <mestery> So there is one left unassigned now it seems?
14:16:03 <rkukura> roaet: We are signing up for doc bugs at https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=ml2
14:16:21 <roaet> So there is one left?
14:16:25 <rkukura> There are also minor updates needed in various other guides
14:16:42 <rkukura> And the wikis as well
14:17:15 <mestery> roaet: This one is left: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1229237
14:17:16 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1229237 in openstack-manuals "Update configuration reference for neutron ml2 plugin" [Undecided,New]
14:18:04 <roaet> I guess I made it to the party just in time. I can be assigned to it, and I will do my best to properly document it.
14:18:15 <rkukura> roaet: Thanks!
14:18:19 <mestery> roaet: Great, thanks!
14:18:20 <roaet> Should I ust claim it?
14:18:27 <mestery> roaet: Yes, please do.
14:18:29 <roaet> ust/just
14:18:38 <roaet> Alright, done.
14:18:42 <mestery> rkukura: Thank you for organizing all of the documentation activities!
14:19:20 <rkukura> I'm told the reorganization/consolidation of the manuals that was planned is complete
14:19:31 <mestery> Thats good news!
14:19:32 <sukhdev> did we decide about the updates to the wikis"
14:20:03 <mestery> I can sign up for wiki updates. I suspect we're mostly looking to change from OVS to ML2 in places?
14:20:09 <sukhdev> I can help with some -
14:20:19 <mestery> sukhdev: Great! Lets coordinate!
14:20:33 <sukhdev> sounds good
14:20:46 <rkukura> Each MD maintainer should make sure their wiki is complete
14:22:02 <mestery> #topic Testing and Bugs
14:22:19 <mestery> So, at this point, we should also focus on testing ML2 in it's various forms and filing and fixing bugs.
14:22:37 <mestery> This is something everyone can help with, as the more testing with ML2 we do the better.
14:22:51 <sukhdev> I have been testing ML2 and noticed one issue - sent out the email few days ago
14:23:16 <mestery> sukhdev: Saw that, apologies for not replying yet, was traveling last week.
14:23:59 <sukhdev> mestery: no worries
14:24:01 <mestery> So, anything else on testing from anyone?
14:24:24 <sukhdev> Shall I open a bug for the issue I reported?
14:24:52 <mestery> sukhdev: Yes, that's the best way to track it and make sure it gets visilbity.
14:25:00 <matrohon> i posted a bug on live-migration :
14:25:03 <matrohon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1224967
14:25:04 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1224967 in neutron "port down after live migration" [Undecided,In progress]
14:26:05 <matrohon> but it depends on a nova bug :
14:26:08 <matrohon> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46739/
14:26:14 <mestery> matrohon: So you ahve a patch for the nova bug as well as the neutron one?
14:26:48 <matrohon> mestery : yes but I don't have a core-reviewer on it
14:27:06 <mestery> I see that there are now a bunch of +1s, so hopefully this gets on the nova folks agenda, the fix looks fine to me
14:27:33 <mestery> I'll review the neutron patch after the meeting
14:27:58 <matrohon> mestery : thanks
14:28:15 <roaet> matrohon: I can get a core for you
14:28:19 <mestery> Thanks for trying live migration with ML2 as well matrohon, this is the exact thing we need to do to catch these bugs.
14:28:25 <mestery> roaet: Thanks, that would be awesome!
14:28:40 <rkukura> matrohon: I'll review that one as well
14:28:49 <mestery> Any other bugs to bring up now?
14:28:57 <matrohon> roaet, rkukura : thanks
14:29:25 <mestery> #topic Open Discussion
14:29:56 <mestery> Next week we'll start talking about design summit sessions around ML2.
14:30:18 <mestery> We'll want to file those in the next 2-3 weeks, along with blueprints for the community items we'll focus on as a team for ML2 in Icehouse.
14:30:38 <rkukura> We need to be responsive to any issues as ml2 starts getting used by a lot more people!
14:30:47 <mestery> rkukura: +100
14:31:28 <mestery> Thank you to everyone for all of your ML2 efforts!
14:31:32 <roaet> Question, has the configuration file options from http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-network/admin/content/app_core.html (obviously grizzly, but y'know..) been considered?
14:32:21 <rkukura> roaet: Most of the network admin guide has been moved to other guides
14:32:35 <roaet> Ok, just checking, my apologies.
14:32:36 <rkukura> we definitely need to update what remains, unless this document is completely deprecated
14:33:16 <mestery> I thought it was planned for deprecation, but maybe I heard wrong.
14:33:41 <rkukura> This guide is still in the source, but no longer on http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/
14:34:17 <mestery> So does that mean it's on it's way out?
14:34:19 <roaet> Ah got it, was looking at the wrong thing.
14:34:47 <rkukura> roaet: We should ask Anne about this I think
14:35:16 <rkukura> And also make sure no essential info is being lost
14:35:42 <roaet> Tis a good idea. Thank you.
14:36:00 <rkukura> roaet: Do you want to look into this, and file any doc bugs that are needed?
14:36:23 <dandrushko> all, did i correctly understood, that networking admin guide will be removed from docs?
14:36:42 <mestery> dandrushko: I think it was merged into another guide, right rkukura?
14:36:46 <roaet> rkukura: I will contact anne just to make sure.
14:37:04 <dandrushko> which is replacement?
14:37:09 <rkukura> dandrushko: As I understand, pieces of it were moved to different docs
14:37:29 <rkukura> cloud-admin-guide, install-guide, config-ref
14:37:49 <dandrushko> thanks
14:38:28 <mestery> OK, thanks folks! Keep up the momentum and we'll see everyone back here next week!
14:38:30 <mestery> #endmeeting