16:02:02 #startmeeting networking_ml2 16:02:07 Meeting started Wed Jul 22 16:02:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:02:08 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:02:10 The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' 16:02:25 #topic: Agenda 16:02:30 #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2 16:02:43 Welcome to this week's ML2 meeting 16:03:04 #topic: Announcements 16:03:17 Liberty-2 is due next week 16:03:32 Do we have anything that we need to worry about? 16:03:50 #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule 16:04:13 Anybody has any other announcement? 16:04:19 * Sukhdev waiting 16:04:56 #topic: Action from previous weeks 16:05:11 ML2 mid-cycle plan 16:05:26 #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_ML2_Mid-Cycle_Sprint 16:05:57 manishg is not here 16:06:13 manishg did update with his availability 16:06:15 rkukura: have you had a chance to follow up with others on this? 16:06:31 I sent an email this morning to those who have expressed interest 16:06:58 myself, Sukhdev, and manishg are all available several of the possible weeks 16:07:14 kevinbenton: did you have a chance to look at the etherpad? 16:07:26 shivharris is not here either 16:07:34 I’d prefer the week of 9/28 - 10/2 since I can be in San Jose that entire week 16:08:15 rkukura: looks like that may be a good one - 16:08:29 lets see if others can sign up for that week as well 16:08:37 I’ll keep after Shiv and Josh, and post to openstack-dev as soon as we know what weeks are possible for those who have expressed interest so far. 16:09:07 sounds good 16:09:12 kevinbenton: are you here? 16:09:36 I’ll keep after kevinbenton as well 16:09:37 OK - lets move on 16:10:08 rkukura: cool - thanks - lets get this closed off - so that folks can get approvals and booking for travel 16:10:21 Sukhdev: +2000 16:10:53 #topic: L2 Modular Agent Discussion 16:11:15 banix does not seem to be here 16:11:40 anybody has any update on this topic? 16:11:49 otherwise, we will keep it on the agenda 16:11:54 * Sukhdev waiting 16:12:37 #topic: Physical Topology Discussion 16:13:15 asoumya or shivharris are not here 16:13:33 we'll skip this over as well 16:13:55 looks like we have lots of people on summer vacation 16:14:23 #topic: Ironic-ML2 discussion 16:14:42 #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron 16:14:49 Let me provide an update on this 16:15:11 We have both of specs for Ironic-neutron integration approved 16:15:31 This means we are in the implementation phase 16:15:57 We have Ironic mid-cycle sprint in August (12-14), which I will be attending 16:17:00 I tested the end-to-end POC with fake data last week - just to make sure there is nothing missing from ML2 point of view 16:17:17 I was very impressed - all the plumbing works great 16:17:39 rkukura: congratulations on the ML2 framework - 16:18:13 This makes the implementation of this integration very smooth 16:18:23 Sukhdev: You are refering to the binding:profile and portbinding stuff that was done for SR-IOV, right? 16:18:44 And binding:vnic_type 16:18:49 rkukura: correct 16:19:52 I had thought that I will run into some holes and may have to submit additional patches - but, was impressed that everything is in place 16:20:27 anything else I can answer on this integration effort? 16:20:34 * Sukhdev waiting 16:20:54 Sukhdev: Sounds great! 16:21:02 cool - 16:21:17 We are at the end of our agenda - 16:21:41 since most of the folks are on vacation - I do not have anything additional to share 16:21:56 Shall we call it a day? 16:22:17 One item I’d like to mention 16:22:21 unless anybody who is in this meeting wants to bring up anything 16:22:28 rkukura: please do 16:22:55 I haven’t had a chance to dig into it yet, but the “routed network” effort seems to be moving forward, and could impact ML2 16:23:49 Some discussion is at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1458890 16:23:50 Launchpad bug 1458890 in neutron "Add segment support to Neutron" [Undecided,Triaged] 16:23:51 Launchpad bug 1458890 in neutron "Add segment support to Neutron" [Undecided,Triaged] 16:23:52 Launchpad bug 1458890 in neutron "Add segment support to Neutron" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1458890 16:24:08 rkukura: This was raised in the mid-cycle at Ft. Collins 16:24:10 And an email thread is at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/070028.html 16:24:35 there may be some impact - but, it is not very obvious on the surface 16:25:11 There was some discussion on whether these “segments” are related to ML2’s current notion of segments, but these seem to imply L2 bridging where ML2’s do. 16:26:02 rkukura: I had brought this up during mid-cycle 16:26:18 Anyway, just wanted to bring this to people’s attention again, and plan to try to undestand it myself 16:26:50 That’s all from me 16:26:57 so, ML2 segments could be used at the edge and in the middle will be L3 segments 16:27:28 rkukura: from the surface, it is like HPB - but, the middle is all L3 network 16:27:42 I’m not clear on this, but I think the idea is that tenant networks would not really be L2 domains 16:27:56 correct - that is the idea 16:28:12 So I’m not clear on how this fits the neutron model 16:28:16 there is an ehtherpad with some good use cases for this 16:28:17 Or can be made to fit 16:29:10 initially, we all had issue with how will it fit - but. then after lots of going back-and-forth and understanding use cases, this spec came about 16:29:29 I have not read it - I am going by what was discussed in the meeting 16:29:41 I will spend some timer to review this. 16:30:16 Sukhdev: I also am not clear on whether these new non-L2 segments are for users, or only for admins. If only for admins, there might be some overlap with the topology service being designed 16:31:02 rkukura: it is my understanding that this was all intended for admins - but, things may have changed from then to now :-) 16:31:51 We seem to be moving from neutron being focused on the user API, with plugins free to do whatever they want, to neutron exposing a consistent model to admins. I’m not sure if this is really a good thing or not. 16:32:29 rkukura: Please review the spec and comment on it - 16:32:48 Sukhdev: I will 16:32:55 Anything else? 16:33:02 nothing from me 16:33:15 Lets call it a day. 16:33:18 Thanks 16:33:28 bye 16:33:36 #endmeeting