16:01:11 #startmeeting networking_ml2 16:01:12 Meeting started Wed Sep 9 16:01:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:13 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:01:15 The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' 16:01:29 #topic: Agenda 16:01:37 #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_Sept_9.2C_2015 16:01:57 #topic: Announcements 16:02:02 I got couple of them 16:02:17 Liberty-3 release content - https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-3 16:02:41 and, also Liberty RC1 is in the works 16:03:02 here is the content for it - https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-rc1 16:03:37 Does anybody have any other announcement? 16:04:00 moving on then - 16:04:18 #topic: ML2 late-cycle sprint 16:04:42 I sent out the announcement yesterday 16:04:50 I hope you saw it - 16:04:59 #link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/073927.html 16:05:32 I also updated the etherpad a bit to make it bit clear 16:06:03 Looks like we have an additional person who is interested in helping out 16:06:35 saw that 16:06:45 Anybody here has any questions about it? 16:06:53 rkukura: any feedback? 16:07:12 notice looks good, I’m booking my travel as we speak 16:07:38 good - 16:08:18 #topic: Mitaka Design Summit proposals 16:08:38 I added this to the agenda so that we can kick off the discussion on this subject 16:08:56 #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit 16:09:28 We should discuss about what topics do we want present at the summit? 16:10:19 I was going to add two topics to the list - but, thought first discuss it here 16:10:30 1) ML2 Sync framework 16:10:51 agreed on 1) 16:11:02 +1 for 1) 16:11:16 2) ML2 API for Security Groups 16:12:19 +1 on 2) as long as someone puts together a reasonably concrete proposal to discuss 16:12:24 for 2) yamahata was going to do some investigation - I thought we add to the list and then continue to discuss it here and solidify 16:12:33 makes sense to me 16:12:36 It's yamamoto. not me. 16:12:41 But I'd like to see 2). 16:13:14 yamahata: I am bad with names, please excuse me 16:13:33 Sukhdev: np. quite common. 16:13:40 yamamoto is not here it seems like 16:14:38 I can articulate the topic on the ehterpad - but. we need some meat behind the details 16:15:18 Can you think of any other topic that is of interest ? 16:15:37 dynamic provider network 16:15:52 * yamahata looking for launchpad link 16:16:01 I think I saw it on the etherpad 16:16:17 or something similar 16:16:24 yamahata: can you elaborate? 16:16:46 allow dynamically change phy<->bridge mapping. 16:16:57 It was originally proposed by HP. 16:17:27 yamahata: Is this the proposal to store these sorts of mappings in the DB with an API for admins? 16:17:28 Actually I need only the central place to store bridge mapping to consume. 16:17:38 rkukura: Yes. 16:18:10 I don't need dyanamic part though. 16:18:59 I wonder if this should somehow be related to the topology service? 16:19:31 It deals with hosts and what physical networks those hosts are connected to. 16:19:33 Yes, it's related. Its scope is limited. 16:20:29 I wonder if this is just a BP/RFE or deceives a session in design summit? 16:20:32 thoughts? 16:22:39 I think its worth proposing a design session 16:23:04 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dynamic-network-segment-configuration 16:23:10 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dynamic-network-segment-configuration 16:23:13 I found the links 16:24:31 #link: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dynamic-network-segment-configuration 16:24:42 yamahata: thanks 16:24:47 yamahata: I think that one deals with the segmentation_id allocaiton ranges, which are global. But the mappings are host-specific. If we do both, coordination makes sense. 16:27:49 this is interesting - and useful as well - however, can't this be done by having a new type driver? 16:28:34 Regarding to the implementation, yes. But we need rest api. 16:29:05 Sukhdev: It could, maybe ones derived from the existing config-based type drivers. The REST API could be packaged as a service plugin. 16:29:19 yamahata: understood 16:30:13 But the physical_network<->bridge mapping yamahata brought up is specific to the mechanism drivers rather than the type drivers I think. 16:31:00 these two seem orthogonal 16:31:24 one related to segmentation management and other mapping management, no? 16:32:51 Sukhdev: Mostly, but potentially similar implementation approaches, and both probably need to know about what physical_networks exist. 16:33:27 got it 16:34:08 So, if we think this should be brought up at the design summit - this may not get a full topic -but, this could go into one of those flash sessions 16:34:40 I forgot what is it called, where you package 5 - 6 topics in one session 16:35:15 lightening talk? 16:35:15 does it make sense? 16:35:21 Yep 16:35:22 yamahata: yes - thanks 16:35:49 It might make sense to combine the allocation range, mapping, and topology stuff all into one session 16:36:24 rkukura: I am afraid topology guys are in their own little land :-) 16:36:57 Sukhdev: maybe, but not sure if they need a full session 16:37:13 rkukura: if they are at the sprint, we can discuss it there 16:37:33 +1 16:38:13 rkukura: how do we track this until then? 16:38:24 shall we add it to the ehterpad for now? 16:38:36 I don’t see why not 16:38:59 yamahata: do you want to take an action to add it to the etherpad? 16:39:07 Sukhdev: sure will do. 16:39:10 I will add the ML2 sync to the etherpad 16:39:10 I missed the past couple neutron IRC meetings, so am not sure if there are specific directions from mestery on this etherpad 16:39:56 rkukura: I missed this week's meeting - mestery posted the ehterpad on the ML 16:40:30 Sukhdev: OK. I’ll read the meeting logs when I get a chance anyway. 16:40:30 yamahata: thanks 16:40:49 Anything else we can think about? 16:40:56 for Mitaka cycle? 16:41:26 * Sukhdev waiting 16:42:07 OK - moving on then 16:42:21 I do not see authors for next three topics on the agenda 16:42:31 so, I am thinking we skip those 16:42:58 anybody has any objection - or want to discuss any of those topics 16:43:04 * Sukhdev waiting 16:43:29 no objection from me 16:43:43 yamahata: how about you? 16:44:02 we can skip those. 16:44:19 cool - that leads to the last one (fun part :-)) 16:44:27 #topic: Open Discussion 16:44:49 Are you guys going to Tokoyo next week? 16:44:58 next week? 16:45:05 \ 16:45:06 ] 16:45:08 next? no. 16:45:30 I meant month - sorry 16:45:49 planning to - need to book my flights still 16:45:55 yamahata: oh how come? 16:46:06 I'm coming. 16:46:31 :-) 16:46:35 yamahata: ah ha - looks like next week confused you - sorry about that :-) 16:46:57 I plan on staying a week after the summit for sight seeing 16:47:14 I am visiting Tokyo after 20+ years 16:47:35 Sukhdev: Its been about that long for me too 16:47:50 But I’ll just be there the summit week 16:48:27 There are many places to visit. and the autum is best season for sight seeing. 16:48:28 I thought I travel through south part of Japan after the summit - 16:48:46 yamahata: any recommendations? 16:49:21 yamahata: I was looking at the organized 3 day trips - but. have not decided yet 16:49:29 3 days? 16:49:41 The easiest recomendation is to visito Kyoto. 16:49:59 I actually have 7 days after summit - I thought I do two 3-days trips 16:50:03 It's traditional japanease. templese shrines. 16:50:21 If you prefer to be around Tokyo area, 16:50:38 yes, one of the 3-day trip is Hiroshima and Kyoto 16:50:41 Ueno, Akihabara ... 16:50:50 Hiroshima is also good place. 16:51:31 Ueno - did not know about it - will check it out 16:51:45 asakusa 16:51:51 Akihabra is for all the electronic shopping, right? 16:52:09 Right. and also japanease manga/animation 16:52:34 cool - thanks - will check into this 16:52:39 Recently Akihabara has become Otaku town. 16:52:50 like Maid kissa 16:53:12 what is Maid Kissa? have never heard about it? 16:53:26 looks like I have lots of home work to do :-) 16:53:44 lol 16:54:13 If you like cosplay, maid coffe would be suitable for you. 16:54:22 cafe 16:55:09 yamahata: you are throwing all these words that I have never heard before :) what is cosplay? 16:55:25 maid cafe - is this some place in Akihabra? 16:56:02 cosplay is to wear costume for manga/anime character. 16:56:15 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maid_caf%C3%A9 16:56:39 oh I see - interesting!! 16:56:51 some likes it, some don't 16:57:01 I guess I have not scratched the surface yet !!! 16:57:38 Have to get the Liberty out - once done, guess I have to go consult Google uncle :-):-) 16:57:59 anyhow thanks yamahata for all the tips 16:58:10 we need to free up this channel for next meeting 16:58:28 Thanks folks for attending today's meeitng 16:58:34 thanks Sukhdev! 16:58:34 bye 16:58:36 hey Sukhdev! 16:58:37 bye 16:58:38 bye 16:58:45 mlavalle: hey 16:58:55 Sukhdev: going to Tokyo? 16:59:26 mlavalle: switching to private channel - have to leave this channel for next meeting 16:59:30 Thanks folks 16:59:34 #endmeeting