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16:01:39 <Sukhdev> #topic: Agenda
16:01:47 <Sukhdev> #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_May_11.2C_2016
16:02:35 <Sukhdev> who is here to attend ML2 meeting this morning - I do not see usual suspects on the channel
16:03:22 <sadasu> Hello!
16:03:32 <Sukhdev> sadasu : hi
16:03:57 <Sukhdev> #topic: Announcements
16:04:27 <Sukhdev> rkukura is running late this morning
16:04:39 <Sukhdev> Anybody has any announcement to make?
16:05:38 <yamahata> hello
16:05:57 <Sukhdev> yamahata : hi
16:06:26 <Sukhdev> #topic: ML2 Charter for Newton
16:06:45 <Sukhdev> Based upon discussion last week following two Items I added to the agenda
16:07:11 <Sukhdev> Trunked ports integration with ML2
16:07:49 <Sukhdev> Integration of the segments service plugin with ML2
16:08:18 <amotoki> hi
16:08:42 <Sukhdev> did I miss anything or would anybody like to see this team cover anything additional for this release cycle?
16:08:45 <Sukhdev> amotoki : hi
16:10:04 <amotoki> regarding trunk port support, after the discussion at austin, we need an response from mechanism drivers for trunk port
16:10:22 <amotoki> so i think it fits ML2 part.
16:10:43 <rkukura> Hi - sorry I’m late
16:10:48 <amotoki> it includes an interface definition or possible more.
16:11:14 <Sukhdev> amotoki : correct - that is why I think we need to drive this in this team
16:11:56 * tbachman waves at rkukura
16:12:10 <Sukhdev> amotoki : other than Rosella, is there anybody else who should we be discussing this with?
16:12:53 <Sukhdev> rkukura : hi
16:13:21 <rkukura> Sukhdev: Sounds like routed networks?
16:13:23 <amotoki> Sukhdev: i think rosella and armando are stakeholders and sponsor cores.
16:13:52 <amotoki> I believe all of them are on board. you can count me too.
16:14:35 <rkukura> or still on trunked ports?
16:14:40 <Sukhdev> yes, we all were there on Friday had an excellent discussion - so, we are good to go on that front
16:14:51 <Sukhdev> rkukura : trunked ports
16:15:03 <amotoki> rkukura: discussing the charter of the team
16:15:48 <Sukhdev> I will follow up with rosella off line and get the status as to where she is and update the team
16:16:02 <Sukhdev> Next Item on the charter -
16:16:27 <Sukhdev> Integration of the Segments service plugin with ML2 -
16:16:33 <Sukhdev> carl_baldwin : are you here
16:16:51 <carl_baldwin> Sukhdev: I'm about 20% here.  :)
16:17:05 <Sukhdev> we'll take it :-)
16:17:46 <Sukhdev> carl_baldwin: based upon discussion in Friday's session in Austin, I updated the RFE
16:18:05 <Sukhdev> for the manila-neutron integration use case
16:18:09 <carl_baldwin> Sukhdev: Do you happen to have a link to that RFE handy?
16:18:21 <Sukhdev> just a sec - looking
16:18:54 <Sukhdev> carl_baldwin : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1573197
16:18:55 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1573197 in neutron "[RFE] Neutron API enhancement for visibility into multi-segmented networks" [Undecided,Incomplete]
16:19:00 <Sukhdev> #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1573197
16:19:10 <carl_baldwin> Thanks, I'll take a look.
16:20:02 <amotoki> re: routed networks, i wonder which is better, ML2 folks join the meeting specific to routed network, or discuss routed network support in ML2 meeting.
16:20:04 <amotoki> thought?
16:20:31 <carl_baldwin> amotoki: That's a good question.
16:21:15 <carl_baldwin> We came up with some things to discuss yesterday in our meeting.  I imagine there will be a small group of ML2ers that could help us out with that discussion.
16:22:14 <Sukhdev> carl_baldwin : when does routed network meeting takes place?
16:22:36 <amotoki> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Neutron_Routed_Networks_Meeting
16:22:42 <carl_baldwin> Sukhdev: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-Routed-Networks
16:22:45 <carl_baldwin> amotoki: Thanks.
16:23:14 <carl_baldwin> Sukhdev: Be careful, the meeting alternates each week, mostly due to the Neutron meeting alternating around the same time.
16:23:55 <Sukhdev> carl_baldwin : it is not PST friendly :-), but, I will try to attend
16:24:19 <carl_baldwin> Basically, what we're looking for is some discussion around integrating the segments service plugin with ML2.  Mainly to create and delete segments on an existing networ.
16:24:19 <amotoki> IMHO it would be best if all folks interested in the effort can join the routed network meeting.
16:24:22 <carl_baldwin> network.
16:25:16 <Sukhdev> I will start to attend the routed network meeting and then update the ML2 team about the status
16:25:22 <carl_baldwin> Agreed, it is early for PST.  Maybe I could start an ML thread to start out with.  Then, if we need higher bandwidth, we can catch the next routed networks meeting that starts at 1500.
16:25:38 <rkukura> I will try to as well, or at least read the minutes.
16:26:05 <carl_baldwin> rkukura: Sukhdev:  That would be great.
16:26:20 <Sukhdev> carl_baldwin : yes that makes sense -
16:26:40 <carl_baldwin> Watch for an email with [Neutron][ML2] in the next 24 hours.
16:26:54 <carl_baldwin> Maybe [Routed Networks] too.
16:27:08 <Sukhdev> carl_baldwin: sounds good - will do
16:27:33 <carl_baldwin> It isn't the most urgent thing on our agenda.  But, you know how the cycle slips by if you put things off for too long.
16:28:03 <andreas_s> I have a question on that
16:28:21 <andreas_s> at the summit we discussed also the multi port binding stuff
16:28:34 <andreas_s> do you think this is a combined effort?
16:28:47 <andreas_s> externalizing the segemtns and externalising multiple bindings?
16:28:58 <andreas_s> #link https://review.openstack.org/309416
16:29:13 <andreas_s> there's this spec for multiple portbinding (which I still need to update...)
16:29:21 <rkukura> I see those as orthogonal
16:30:00 <andreas_s> ok, so keep them separated?
16:30:28 <Sukhdev> andreas_s : I have not see this spec earlier - does it propose a multi-segmented networks to achieve multi-port binding?
16:31:01 <rkukura> I had not seen the spec either, so my comment may be premature
16:31:19 <andreas_s> Sukhdev, That's basically what we discussed at the Fridays meetup
16:31:35 <andreas_s> the conclusion was to have a new subresource or so for a port
16:32:02 <rkukura> I think the multi-segment should provider read/write access to the static segments of a network, and also read access to the dynamic segments, which get created during port binding
16:32:20 <rkukura> But the exact details of the port binding, especially for a distributed port, are more than that
16:33:19 <amotoki> i think you first need to file RFE to clarify what we need. what does multi-port binding bring to users?
16:33:31 <Sukhdev> andreas_s : let me review this spec and then we can decide if these are different or same
16:33:45 <Sukhdev> amotoki : +1
16:34:17 <andreas_s> Sukhdev, ok thanks - please keep in mind - it does not reflect the state after our summit discussion
16:34:33 <andreas_s> Sukhdev, I sitll have the todo to update it...
16:34:56 <andreas_s> Let me ping you as soon as I did it
16:35:15 <Sukhdev> andreas_s : understood - also, as amotoki points, can you please file an RFE as well?
16:35:22 <rkukura> andreas_s: please let me know as well
16:35:26 <andreas_s> hopefully end of this week
16:35:36 <andreas_s> yep will do and create a rfe
16:35:46 <Sukhdev> sounds good
16:36:00 <andreas_s> by the way I'm scheuran - I decided to change my irc nick to something more obvoius ;)
16:36:43 <Sukhdev> andreas_s : I noticed - It was good meeting you in person in Austin
16:37:13 <andreas_s> Sukhdev, definitively!
16:37:34 <Sukhdev> So, continuing our discussion on the team charter -
16:38:06 <Sukhdev> we covered three items so far
16:38:33 <Sukhdev> can anybody think of anything else that this team should be driving for Newton?
16:38:48 <amotoki> do we need to cover baremetal and manila stuffs here?
16:39:20 <amotoki> i am not sure what we need to do but you Sukhdev knows more :)
16:39:26 <Sukhdev> amotoki : we have weekly meetings to cover baremetal (ironic-neutron) meeting
16:39:43 <amotoki> i know.
16:40:31 <amotoki> so there is no or few ml2 specific topics. right?
16:40:54 <Sukhdev> and, for item manila, the RFE that I posted should cover it
16:41:21 <Sukhdev> amotoki : yes, it seems like we are down to 2 or 3 topics :-)
16:41:58 <amotoki> sounds good to me. thanks for clarification
16:42:56 <Sukhdev> Moving right along the agenda
16:43:02 <Sukhdev> #topic: Bugs
16:43:26 <Sukhdev> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_May_11.2C_2016
16:43:47 <Sukhdev> andreas_s : you had added this to the agenda - is there anything you want to discuss about it?
16:44:06 <andreas_s> Sukhdev, no, just make your aware of this...
16:44:11 <Sukhdev> opps - sorry - wrong link
16:44:27 <Sukhdev> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1567792
16:44:29 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1567792 in openstack-manuals "Mitaka Configuration Reference Nework section is missing ML2 parameters" [Undecided,Confirmed]
16:44:54 <Sukhdev> andreas_s : thanks
16:45:03 <andreas_s> I try to work on that... to get it fixed
16:45:26 <Sukhdev> andreas_s : let us know if you need any help with this
16:45:34 <andreas_s> sure, thanks!
16:45:44 <Sukhdev> moving right along
16:45:54 <Sukhdev> #topic: Open Discussion
16:46:30 <Sukhdev> carl_baldwin : you wanted to discuss the routed network items here
16:46:41 <Sukhdev> carl_baldwin : this is good time
16:46:51 <carl_baldwin> Sukhdev: I think we'll start with the ML as discussed above.
16:47:06 <carl_baldwin> Unless someone has some thoughts about create / delete segments now.
16:47:42 <Sukhdev> rkukura : any thoughts?
16:48:12 <rkukura> Sukhdev: I think starting with the ML makes sense
16:48:32 <Sukhdev> sounds good
16:48:51 <Sukhdev> carl_baldwin : look forward to an email from you then
16:49:13 <Sukhdev> Anybody wants to discuss anything - this is Open Discussion time
16:50:20 <Sukhdev> silence is golden - it also means that we are done
16:50:49 <Sukhdev> Thanks folks for attending today's meeting
16:50:57 <rkukura> thanks Sukhdev!
16:51:01 <Sukhdev> bye
16:51:09 <carl_baldwin> bye and thanks!
16:51:13 <amotoki> thanks
16:51:25 <rkukura> bye
16:51:26 <Sukhdev> #endmeeting