14:00:05 <mlavalle> #startmeeting neutron_drivers 14:00:06 <openstack> Meeting started Fri Dec 7 14:00:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:07 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:09 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' 14:00:18 <njohnston> o/ 14:00:48 <mlavalle> hi njohnston 14:01:09 <njohnston> How are you doing mlavalle? Happy Friday! 14:01:23 <mlavalle> same to you, njohnston 14:01:37 <Chenjie> mlavalle: hi, I have another 2 RFE to discuss in future driver meetings 14:01:46 <Chenjie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1803494 14:01:47 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1803494 in neutron "[RFE] Add l2pop support for floating IP resources" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) 14:01:53 <Chenjie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1806316 14:01:54 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1806316 in neutron "[RFE] Add RPC query API to l2pop for FDB resync" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) 14:02:20 <mlavalle> Chenjie: ack 14:02:31 <Chenjie> mlavalle: Thank you so much! 14:02:43 <mlavalle> haleyb indicated that he might be a little late 14:02:55 <mlavalle> slaweq: you around? feeling better? 14:03:12 <mlavalle> amotoki: ping 14:03:59 <rubasov> o/ 14:04:07 <mlavalle> hey rubasov 14:04:14 <rubasov> hello 14:04:48 <rubasov> I'm just here to listen to learn how this goes 14:05:06 <amotoki> hi 14:05:14 <mlavalle> so slaweq sent an email last night indicating he was sick 14:05:26 <mlavalle> so he is very unlikely to attend today 14:05:39 <mlavalle> amotoki is here :-) 14:05:55 <mlavalle> and I know haleyb will be here, although a little late 14:06:17 <mlavalle> let's give him a few minutes to achieve quorum 14:07:52 <mlavalle> yamamoto is also sick today, so he won't attend 14:08:19 <mlavalle> it must be the cold weather in the northern hemisphere 14:08:41 <njohnston> yes, so many are sick 14:09:27 <amotoki> I am staying a southern island in Japan this week for an event and it is much warmer than Tokyo by 10~15 degree :) 14:10:08 <amotoki> I need to care myself when I return to Tokyo tomorrow 14:10:14 <mlavalle> although, at least today, it is not that cold in Wroclaw (where slaweq lives). it is about 10C (51F) 14:11:06 <mlavalle> well, today Tokyo is ~9C (50F) 14:11:10 <mlavalle> not that cold 14:11:11 <amotoki> It still sounds cold to me :p 14:11:19 <mlavalle> LOL 14:11:21 <mlavalle> yeap 14:11:30 <amotoki> it is 25~28C here 14:11:56 <mlavalle> by all means, amotoki, please take care of yourself when you go back to Tokyo 14:13:05 <amotoki> thanks 14:13:20 <mlavalle> Let's give haleyb 3 more minutes and then we start discussing Chenjie's RFE, which is where we left off last week 14:13:34 <njohnston> I just sent haleyb a message in a side channel 14:14:01 <mlavalle> njohnston: he sent me an email earlier today indicating he had to run some errands 14:14:07 <njohnston> ah ok 14:14:35 <slaweq> hi, sorry for being late 14:14:49 <slaweq> I'm feeling bit better so I can attend our meeting 14:15:16 <mlavalle> slaweq: are you sure? we understand if you need to rest 14:15:36 <mlavalle> #topic RFEs 14:15:42 <slaweq> no, it's fine. I rest all day :) 14:15:51 <mlavalle> Great! 14:15:57 <amotoki> slaweq: good to hear that you are getting better :) 14:16:07 <mlavalle> so let's start here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1793653 14:16:08 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1793653 in neutron "[RFE] Enable other subprojects to extend l2pop fdb information" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) 14:16:11 <njohnston> slaweq: Glad you'redoing better! 14:16:20 <slaweq> thx guys 14:17:25 <mlavalle> Chenjie: I read it carefully yesterday and overall it makes sense to me 14:17:46 <mlavalle> I have a a couple of questions, though: 14:18:03 <Chenjie> mlavalle: thanks! 14:19:05 <mlavalle> 1) For this to work, there must a corresponding change in a subproject, I suspect in this case networking-bgpvpn, right? 14:19:36 <mlavalle> Chenjie: ^^^ 14:19:51 <haleyb> sorry i'm late, darn laptop 14:20:13 <mlavalle> haleyb: no problem. thanks for showing up 14:23:01 <Chenjie> mlavalle: yes,it should be networking-bgpvpn in this case. 14:23:24 <Chenjie> mlavalee: sorry for late reply. I didn't see your question. 14:23:57 <mlavalle> Chenjie: has that changed been approved in that subproject or is it under consideration? I looked in Gerrit and couldn't find anything: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/networking-bgpvpn+owner:%22ChenjieXu+%253Cchenjie.xu%2540intel.com%253E%22 14:24:23 <mlavalle> Chenjie: of course I'm assuming you are the person implementing that change 14:25:10 <mlavalle> Chenjie: so what is the status on the bgpvpn side? 14:25:31 <Chenjie> mlavalle: It has not been proposed to make the change in bgpvpn. 14:25:54 <Chenjie> mlavalle: I think the change will be proposed after this RFE merged. 14:26:16 <mlavalle> Chenjie: has there at least been any discussion with them? 14:27:02 <Chenjie> mlavalle: sorry, I don't know. I can ask. 14:30:17 <mlavalle> Chenjie: second question 2) Have you deployed the proposed Neutron patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599319) with bgpvpn (with a corresponding change to register a fdb extending function) and shown it works? 14:32:22 <Chenjie> mlavalle: Sorry, I didn't test this with BGPVPN. I just test the RFE with a simple case written by myself. 14:33:37 <Chenjie> mlavalle: I just sent an email to ask whether the bgpvpn side will be upstreamed. 14:35:26 <mlavalle> Chenjie: mhhhh. can you clarify that. so when we are talking about bgpvpn, aren't we talking about https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn? 14:37:52 <Chenjie> mlavalle: yes, I can. We are talking about this project. 14:38:49 <mlavalle> Chenjie: so there is nothing to be upstreamed. This project is already "upstreamed" in the the open 14:39:41 <mlavalle> Chenjie: and that means a corresponding change has to be proposed to https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn, correct? 14:40:28 <Chenjie> https://github.com/starlingx-staging/stx-networking-bgpvpn 14:40:51 <amotoki> what is the relationship between networking-bgpvpn and stx-networking-bgpvpn? 14:40:59 <Chenjie> mlavalle: the change in this project should be upstreamed to project networking-bgpvpn 14:41:25 <Chenjie> mlavalle: stx-networking-bgpvpn is based on networking-bgpvpn 14:41:35 <mlavalle> Chenjie: is it a fork? 14:41:47 <Chenjie> mlavalle: stx-networking-bgpvpn is downstream. 14:42:01 <Chenjie> mlavalle: yes. 14:43:28 <amotoki> looking at the repo, stx-netwokring-bgpvpn is a fork, not a downstream. 14:43:47 <mlavalle> Chenjie: so the corresponding change has to be upstreamed to https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn, correct? 14:44:44 <Chenjie> mlavalle:yes, but I don't know will they propose to upstream those changes. I just sent an email to ask about that. 14:45:08 <mlavalle> amotoki: I think that this type of repo will disappear in the near future. The idea is that StarlingX converges with OpenStack master in gneral 14:45:34 <Chenjie> mlavalle: yes! 14:45:35 <amotoki> mlavalle: yeah, my undestanding is same 14:45:41 <mlavalle> the plan is for this convergence to take place sonn after te end of Stein 14:47:10 <Chenjie> mlavalle: thank you for your information! 14:48:01 <amotoki> it seems we first need to discuss a RFE for a specific user-visible feature like l2pop support in bgpvpn. the current RFE we are discussing is about how to achieve this. 14:48:09 <mlavalle> Chenjie: I am hesitant to make this change in the Neutron side if we don't have the buy in from the the upstream networking-bgpvpn team 14:48:57 <mlavalle> why make this change in Neutron when the the bgpvpn upstream might say it won't work for some reason 14:49:00 <mlavalle> ? 14:49:40 <Chenjie> mlavalle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1803494 14:49:41 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1803494 in neutron "[RFE] Add l2pop support for floating IP resources" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) 14:50:06 <slaweq> but IMO even if bgpvpn will not use it, can't it be used by other projects as well? Maybe some 3rd party projects? 14:50:24 <Chenjie> mlavalle: this RFE can alse be a use case for RFE "Enable other projects to extend l2pop fdbs" 14:50:54 <Chenjie> mlavalle: this RFE just propose to make changes in neutron. 14:52:09 <mlavalle> slaweq: yes.... but in principle why add a feature that doesn't have an approved use case yet..... 14:52:56 <mlavalle> having said that, I buy the posibility that this latest RFE might be such use case: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1803494 14:52:58 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1803494 in neutron "[RFE] Add l2pop support for floating IP resources" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) 14:53:22 <mlavalle> but now we need to take a look at this one 14:53:44 <Chenjie> mlavalle: that's ok with me. 14:54:29 <mlavalle> Chenjie: let me be clear, I am not trying to shut dowan your RFE. I also wear a StarlingX hat, as you know 14:54:46 <mlavalle> I want StarlingX to succeed 14:54:54 <Chenjie> mlavalle: during this period, I think I can ask about the opinions of BGPVPN team. 14:55:09 <Chenjie> mlavalle: yes, I understand. 14:55:19 <mlavalle> here's what I propose to go forward 14:55:32 <mlavalle> 1) Let's review this latest RFE 14:56:27 <mlavalle> 2) I volunteer to facilitate a conversation with the networking-bgpvpn team. I want to hear what they have to say 14:57:28 <mlavalle> Chenjie: does it make sense^^^^? 14:57:43 <Chenjie> mlavalle:it makes sense to me. 14:58:00 <Chenjie> mlavalle: thank you for your proposal! 14:58:10 <mlavalle> any other thoughts, amotoki, haleyb, slaweq, njohnston, rubasov? 14:58:29 <haleyb> none from me 14:58:30 <slaweq> sounds good to me 14:58:44 <njohnston> sounds good to me 14:58:48 <amotoki> sounds good 14:59:15 <mlavalle> ok, thanks for attending. Have a great weekend! 14:59:19 <amotoki> mlavalle: which stadium projects do we cover by neutron RFEs? 14:59:39 <amotoki> we sometimes cover fwaas RFEs. how aobut networking-bgpvpn? 15:00:02 <mlavalle> amotoki: I think is a project by project. I'll ask tmorin 15:00:11 <mlavalle> #endmeeting