14:01:05 #startmeeting neutron_drivers 14:01:06 Meeting started Fri Feb 1 14:01:05 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:07 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:09 The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' 14:01:25 hi 14:01:35 good evening amotoki 14:01:39 hi 14:01:52 Good Morning/Evening! :) 14:02:20 hi slaweq 14:02:29 when do you leave for Israel? 14:02:53 tomorrow morning 14:03:02 safe travel! 14:03:03 o/ 14:03:05 enjoy the trip 14:03:10 thx :) 14:03:12 I enjoyed watching ski jumping world cup games last week. 14:03:20 hi davidsha 14:03:27 slaweq: hey! 14:03:30 hi davidsha 14:03:35 welcome 14:03:44 davidsha: welcome 14:04:08 amotoki: Kamil Stoch is good one :) 14:04:22 o/ 14:04:34 slaweq: yeah, he made a new hill record!! 14:04:56 yes, I saw it 14:04:59 wwriverrat: are you here to discuss the routed networks PoC? 14:05:16 I was there :) 14:05:18 if it pleases the group :) 14:05:47 hi 14:05:55 hi yamamoto :) 14:06:00 wwriverrat: mhhhh, that is not what this meeting is about. Can we discuss in the patch? If that is not sufficient, can we start a ML thread? 14:07:00 sure. ML thread being generated. I'll just sit and watch. 14:07:11 wwriverrat: thanks! 14:08:16 ok, we have quorum 14:08:21 #topic RFEs 14:08:51 First in the list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1809878 14:08:52 Launchpad bug 1809878 in neutron "[RFE] Move sanity-checks to neutron-status CLI tool" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) 14:09:18 Some time ago I asked mriedem about opinion about it 14:09:27 he told me that he don't see anything against :) 14:10:25 ahh cool, yeah, we talked about asking mriedem 14:10:27 so we have no blocking thing to approve this? 14:10:42 I am ok with this proposal 14:10:53 it's here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/%23openstack-neutron.2019-01-15.log.html#t2019-01-15T14:18:20 :) 14:11:29 I think it's is something "nice to have" and I will work on it slowly if it will be approved 14:11:51 slaweq: makes sense 14:12:59 makes sense to me as well 14:17:29 neutron-status is supposed to be installed on every nodes? 14:17:58 yamamoto: I think so 14:18:39 ok, then it makes sense to merge sanity check 14:18:41 it's defined in entry_points like neutron-sanity-check https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/setup.cfg#L58 14:19:04 me too as it is installed by entry_points, but it might depend on distros. 14:19:20 so maybe some packagers will have to adjust it but I don't see any reason why it won't be installed everywhere 14:19:53 agree 14:20:40 all good moving ahead with this RFE? 14:20:42 +1 14:21:17 I'm not voting on this one :) 14:21:36 you shouldn't ;-) 14:22:20 +1 14:22:52 +1 14:23:00 cool 14:23:06 thx :) 14:23:10 * mlavalle updating the RFE 14:24:39 slaweq: you doing this slowly, right? do you think it will make it in Stein? 14:24:54 mlavalle: I hope so 14:25:08 cool 14:25:29 Moving on 14:25:50 Next one to discuss today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1811352 14:25:52 Launchpad bug 1811352 in neutron "[RFE] Include neutron CLI floatingip port-forwarding support" [Wishlist,New] 14:27:01 I think this should go to openstacksdk and python-openstackclient 14:28:06 I agree 14:28:33 and those projects uses storyboard already 14:30:00 amotoki, slaweq: let me make sure I understand what you are saying: this RFE should have not been reported against Neutron? 14:31:18 IMHO yes, it's something missing in OSC/SDK 14:31:39 mlavalle: at least we need to file a RFE to their storyboard. 14:31:55 although it is nice if neutron team is aware of it 14:32:32 I think from the strict point of view of the process, you are right 14:32:52 what I think now is to file a story on storyboard and then close the RFE in neutron with the storyboard link. 14:33:06 but this kind of things with the clients are, to some extent, in a gray area 14:33:38 because the trigger was Neutron. So to an extent we own it 14:33:40 mlavalle: totally agree 14:34:22 so is it better to keep this open and refer to the RFE in a proposed review? 14:34:51 I'll take the action item of filing in openstacksdk and python-openstackclient 14:35:40 thanks. we just need one story and add tasks to sdk and osc 14:35:44 and going forward, when client stuff shows up, the process is cross file and keep it open in Neutron 14:35:51 does it make sense? 14:36:02 makes sense 14:36:07 yep 14:36:13 good for me 14:36:37 I'll also take the action item to update our devref 14:36:58 so we clarify how client related stuff is handled from RFE perspective 14:37:13 ++ 14:37:48 ++ 14:38:33 I mean, ultimately we are responsible to deliver complete functionality and that includes the clients 14:38:58 completely agree 14:39:10 yamamoto: any thoughts you might want to add? 14:39:53 does it apply to horizon heat etc? or only client? 14:41:19 that's a pretty good question. In other words, where do we draw the line? 14:42:10 Maybe for the time being let's limit this to openstacksdk and python-openstackclient 14:42:34 +1 14:42:34 and I take the action item to discuss with the TC how they see this boundary issues 14:42:36 IMHO I see two lines: client support is MUST item, horizon/heat/others are optional 14:42:40 +1 14:43:02 cool 14:43:27 Let's take amotoki's reasoning as our position^^^^ 14:44:01 +1 14:44:03 :) 14:44:06 and I'll comment with the TC the more general boundary issue 14:45:35 ok, next one is not quite ready to be discussed here. But since Midonet has this feature, I would like yamamoto to take some time over the next few days and give us his opinion here: 14:45:44 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1810905 14:45:45 Launchpad bug 1810905 in neutron "[RFE]Support NAT64" [Wishlist,New] 14:47:34 i'm curious if the submitter has an implementation idea 14:48:35 They might. I don't work there anymore, but ofthen they already have an idea 14:48:40 we can ask in the RFE 14:48:52 midonet uses vpp for the 4<->6 transformation as ovs datapath doesn't support it 14:49:38 These are good points 14:49:50 would you mind leaving a note there? 14:50:05 sure, i'll leave a few questions 14:50:12 Thanks! 14:50:24 #topic On demand agenda 14:51:21 amotoki sent me an email the other day asking me about Tap as a Service 14:51:50 he was asked to review client code for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603501/ 14:51:55 Right amotoki? 14:52:01 mlavalle: yes 14:52:22 in our policy, neutronclient accepts CLI supports for stadium projects, so it raised me the question. 14:52:46 so since yamamoto is core in that project, I have a couple of questions: 14:53:05 1) Do we have enough core reviewing capacity in that project? 14:54:39 1) not enough to maintain the current "two +2 to merge" policy 14:55:20 yamamoto: do you mean you are only active core? 14:55:30 I had a conversation with manjeets. He helped implementing and testing the patch above^^^^ 14:56:08 so he has come familiar with TaaS. He also spoke to his manager and he has support (an interest) in being core 14:56:12 amotoki: sort of. usually kaz reviews if someone ping him. 14:56:22 would that help yamamoto? 14:58:11 i don't remember manjeets reviewing taas patches 14:58:49 well, we can ask him to start reviewing 14:59:02 I don't necessarily mean for him to be core now 14:59:07 but works towards it 14:59:13 with your guidance 14:59:35 but good to hear he has an interest 14:59:53 sure, let's ask him to start reviewing 15:00:02 I just don't want the project to starve to dead 15:00:13 ok we are at time 15:00:19 Thanks for attending 15:00:23 #endmeeting